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Re: “New 'TinyFarm' in town wants zoning change to sell veggies from home

old fart repubicans around here are only against it because it is a progressive idea. lower carbon footprint and healthier food is good for everyone... even grumpy old farts.

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Posted by happyfew on 05/20/2016 at 9:46 AM

Re: “New 'TinyFarm' in town wants zoning change to sell veggies from home

To supplement this article, I'd like to refer another article.…

Some college students get a free year or so to live on an acre of land in the city, going into (poor peoples?) homes and teaching them how to cook, all the while growing food in a "5,000 square foot", year round structure-

Dirt and water grow seeds. I'm awful glad this sort of thing is happening but it does sort of seem like the "Pinnacle of White Privilege".

To be productive rather than just cynical- I'd encourage these grant writer's and what not to embrace the existing markets. I know this area is a supposed 'food-desert', but I believe that if the full power of white-privilege (or even just market demand) came down on some of the local mini-grocery owners to carry such and such organic food product, they would respond to the customer base.

I used to live near this area and I asked the convenient store on Platte and Prospect to carry more onions and potatoes, as I was always running down to pick them up. They did so with a smile. These are the folks that also run the liquor store in the same lot.

Sometimes the answer is more simple than we want it to be. I love that we dedicated an acre to gardening a great slice of land in town, and we will use it to teach people about food. I'd like to see the honest working grocers in town given an opportunity to respond to such a need.

Food rots, cooling systems are needed to keep produce fresh. Local grocers have such systems. Let's try to incorporate them as well, instead of trying to totally reinvent the wheel.

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Posted by KyleJS on 05/20/2016 at 12:22 AM

Re: “Mixed blessings

Andrew Womack is a good man with a loving and giving heart for people.

. I find it funny how "so called" liberals want everyone to be tolerant of others when in reality theyre the most intolerant of anyone who doesn't agree their point of view. Ie: If a conservative doesn't like something, they find an alternative. When a liberal doesn't like something they want attempt to force everyone to comply with them or they resort to belittling slandering using half truths or outright lying. Never ever attempt to confuse a liberal with the facts.

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Posted by Archer4110 on 05/20/2016 at 12:11 AM

Re: “A lot to give in Manitou

At a time when traffic and parking is a huge issue for Ruxton Canyon, it is highly unlikely that Manitou would approve a Conditional Use permit to Colorado Springs for paid parking. That lot is also accessed through the Cog parking lot, so there is a logistical access problem.

Posted by DaveA on 05/19/2016 at 4:34 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

Please pick up a paper copy of the Indy for a great sidebar on the Colo Spgs Utilities Ruxton hydro Plant parking lot that the City is "selling" to the COG Broadmoor.

Posted by What's the Word? on 05/19/2016 at 4:34 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

Great story! As a former board member of the Palmer Land Trust, I was under the impression that the Shamrock Ranch was secured by a conservation easement. I even attended the owner's book signing. He produced a large glossy coffee table book on the subject and was lauded for taking care of this beautiful and historic ranch. Here is proof again that nothing can truly protect the land except keeping it in public hands. I am sorry to see Palmer playing along to the extent they are.

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Posted by Ruth Obee on 05/19/2016 at 9:32 AM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

As for the swap it hasn't gone through! But conservation easements don't sound as ironclad as the proponents have touted. What can be believed about what supporters have said? All I've seen is "public process" in name only. Diversions, untruths and vague statements are what we have heard. Anything that is promised or planned should be legally signed with EVERY detail spelled out BEFORE moving forward with any considerations, not after. Otherwise it's a blank slate. Better yet, Dear Councilmembers, please just vote NO on this preposterous proposal and protect the public interest and protect ALL of North Cheyenne Canon Park (Strawberry) and ALL of our public parks---which will be at risk if you set a precedent by voting yes.

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Posted by Sienna on 05/19/2016 at 6:23 AM

Re: “Trapped in the dying mall

The club was called Pink Cadillac.

Posted by Shane Pedigo on 05/18/2016 at 10:18 PM

Re: “New 'TinyFarm' in town wants zoning change to sell veggies from home

If we want to enable fresher, localized food systems where people know their farmers, we must enable urban farmers to grow in cities. This is another interesting article for those interested in zoning laws for urban farms:

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Posted by Chris Michael on 05/18/2016 at 9:25 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

Good reporting on a topic in the limelight.

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Posted by MChaussee on 05/18/2016 at 6:04 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

Thanks for finding more information and sharing with the public about some of the ins and outs of the easements! If we, the public, had known that our public lands would be for sale to private for profit businesses like the BroAdmoor then the public may have approached the Palmer Land Trust to conserve all of North Cheyenne Canon, which includes Strawberry fields! The problem is North Cheyenne Canon is to be held by the people/public/citizens of Colorado Springs in perpetuity, since 1885 into forever (so why would there need to be a conservation easement?!) North Cheyenne Canon, Strawberry fields, was acquired by citizen's vote and should be voted on by the citizens to swap/give/trade/exhange/sell!

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Posted by Rubia Rowell on 05/18/2016 at 4:23 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

The location of the easements was changed in 2006 as a part of a development proposal by Morley-Howard Investments, which purchased the property for residential subdivision," That is a truly disgusting scenario but sadly, all too common. I can't believe that even with no detailed plans for a "building envelope" in a meadow on historic parkland, no specific answers or plans on burying utilities and who would bear the cost of doing so, no transparency on appraisals (no access to those work files even for council) and 4 denied CORA requests about this exchange that the matter of Strawberry Fields is even up for debate. Sad commentary on our city.

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Posted by katm on 05/18/2016 at 2:22 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

Pam, although I truly appreciate your hard work and dedication to this series of reporting, the title and the statement, "As much as it possibly can, that is. The easement will be imposed by its owner — eventually The Broadmoor — in cooperation with Palmer Land Trust, a nonprofit agency that's not subject to government disclosure laws, so there's no mandate for public oversight." imply that this is a "done deal"! It is not! Those of us in complete opposition to this "land grab" vow to fight on!

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Posted by John C. Spengler on 05/18/2016 at 1:57 PM

Re: “A conservation easement could settle some land-swap issues, but it's complicated

"The 2,500-acre Shamrock Ranch in the Black Forest area was believed to be under a conservation easement"...The same will happen with Strawberry. Pass the deed, change the zone, that's all folks.

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Posted by Mike Dorsey on 05/18/2016 at 1:38 PM

Re: “2016 Colorado Springs bicycle guide

Pedal On to Carrie and the rocking staff of the Colorado Springs Independent!

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 05/18/2016 at 7:35 AM

Re: “Case by case

crying shame

Posted by antcon on 05/17/2016 at 5:24 PM

Re: “Case by case

I've been assaulted by police officers three times in my life. The latest beating occurred about 10 days ago after I had called police to my place of work where I had just been assaulted by what appeared to be a drug-crazed gorilla man. The police refused to even take a report from me, so, after they left I called CSPD to complain. Within minutes the same 2 officers drove up on me. They told me to stop calling CSPD about my being assaulted or else they woukd throw ME in jail. So I gave them the what-for...criticizing them for not doing their job. That's when they grabbed my left arm and spun me around and slammed me into their car, driving my right thigh into the bumper so hard I couldn't even walk afterwards. So, I crawled into an alley and passed out. I awoke freezing cold in the middle of the night and struggled to even stand. And then hobbled my way to a nearby Wal-Mart for food and water. I called my employer who refused to give me the name of his "crack head" employees who had assaulted me, and then stopped taking my calls altogether. My leg began swelling so much I could barely get my pants off. In great pain I called a taxi to take me to memorial hospital where I was admitted and prescribed "vicatin" for pain relief, which I rejected. 4 hours later I was given 800mg of ibuprofen as I had been requesting. After I told a nurse that it was CSPD that had assaulted me, 2 out of shape/obese/fat "security guards" came and escorted me off of hospital property BEFORE the results of my CATscan had been produced.The next day a hospital employee called and asked why I had left the hospital so soon! She said the CATscan had revealed something, and made an appointment for me to go back to the hospital on the 25th.
I really don't know what to do. I'm jobless now, and living on the street with some of the most vile and hideous persons I've ever met being everywhere all around me. Dang it!

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Posted by Phil Douglas on 05/17/2016 at 8:16 AM

Re: “Old North End and Colorado College urge city to "safety size" four main thoroughfares

I'm all for making this city safer for pedestrians and cyclists, but I am afraid that this change will mean more traffic for smaller streets like El Paso. Please also consider what these changes mean for streets like that!

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Posted by Hanna Atencio on 05/16/2016 at 1:29 PM

Re: “Gardner faces Klingenschmitt in Senate District 12

It's interesting how these comments are so one sided; Gordon is more conservative than Gardner (Bob); yes these facts are undeniable; Gordon was and is a former 20 year veteran and former Air Force Academy graduate, and former Navy Chaplain; yes he did pray a prayer "In Jesus Name" and got into hot water for that! Yes, he votes with conservatives 88% of the time; Gardner his opponent (who calls himself conservative but is not) votes with conservative 54% (just over one half ) of the time. That does not seem very conservative to me. Lets say I come home to my spouse 54% of the time. Bob G gets two F's the last 2 years on the conservative scorecard; Gordon gets a A-or 88% of the time he voted conservative!; I dont care much about what a politician says, just how do THEY VOTE... Vote for Gordon Klingenschmitt

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Posted by Timmy H on 05/16/2016 at 12:47 AM

Re: “Gardner faces Klingenschmitt in Senate District 12

Gordon K is a great representative; HE IS A RETIRED NAVY CHAPLAIN; FORMER AIR FORCE ADADEMY GRADUATE; VOTED 88% OF THE TIME with conservatives; while Bob voted only 54% of the time with the conservatives (and Bob G voted for OBAMAcare; making it a law. Yes, Bob has tried to cover it up). Gordon has been voted the most conservative representative in the EL PASO county by the conservative scorecard. #1. Yes, he is guilty of being too conservative! I will also say I am ultra conservative; worked for Abe Lincoln and it will work for Gordon

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Posted by Timmy H on 05/16/2016 at 12:12 AM

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