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Re: “Strawberry Fields headed for court, again

Mr. Miller, At the time it was proposed, the Council Mayor proposal had to face the same scrutiny by the Title Board constituted with the same ex officio membership as it is today. The Title Board members were appointed by the City Council and they were hardly friends of the proposal; a majority were against the proposal in the end. The then City Attorney and City Clerk reported to the City Manager who was going to lose their job if the measure was passed so it was hardly a friendly gauntlet to run. We prepared for the possibility that it would be turned down. It was deemed sufficiently single subject - the executive of the City was changed from the City Manager to a popularly elected Mayor. That simple idea did necessitate numerous places in the charter for written changes but still a single subject. And in the end, it was the voters who overwhelmingly supported the change.

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Posted by Kevin Walker on 11/06/2016 at 12:39 PM

Re: “2016 Indy endorsements cheat sheet

SD 20's ballot item is NOT a mill levy INCREASE! It is a debt increase, but the mill levy rate STAYS THE SAME.

Posted by colomtngirl on 11/06/2016 at 9:56 AM

Re: “A proposed change to Section 8 looks to desegregate neighborhoods

Nospincs get your facts straight !!!! I'm fact section 8 recipients have to go through stringent background and criminal checks. Not everyone on section 8 are bad people. Like under any circumstances there are good and bad people everywhere. It is not because they have a section 8 voucher you moron.

Posted by Meme Jakes on 11/06/2016 at 3:05 AM

Re: “Some Air Force Academy cadets never have a chance — and they leave feeling defeated

A great book on this subject can be found here:

Posted by SailorMark on 11/05/2016 at 4:40 PM

Re: “Hearing set for Friday on parks measure

Jim - The time is now to begin discussions to close the Incline and Barr Trail because of people like you. Perhaps a trail fee of $10 per person per day or more would maybe cover most of the millions it costs. This so called trade is the worst real estate deal ever for the citizens! It provides zero money for the millions it costs. Even if the trade goes through, without a trail fee, the Incline is doomed. We can call it the Jim Davies fee. What is your solution Jim other than freeloading off the citizens?

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Posted by Donald T Rump on 11/05/2016 at 10:42 AM

Re: “Hearing set for Friday on parks measure

And saying "It's not about Strawberry Fields" is naive at best, dishonest at worst. Dropping the retroactivity would get the measure on the ballot, but it's all about Strawberry Fields, so that won't happen. Why May 1st? Because it's all about Strawberry Fields.

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Posted by Jim Davies on 11/05/2016 at 8:16 AM

Re: “Hearing set for Friday on parks measure

Calling this process "secret" is laughable. There were over 20 public meetings over a period of four months before the council voted.

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Posted by Jim Davies on 11/05/2016 at 7:41 AM

Re: “The myth of a killer in love

You know it's been 9 years since this took place. AND I'll still stand here and defend A.J. to my last breath. it was out of character for him to do this. It was a bullshit thing to do and he ruined several peoples life's with his actions but that's not who A.J. was. I grew up in abusive household and I would go to school with black eyes and one time with a broken nose crying and on the verge of killing myself to get out of that situation. A.J. saw that he held me close and I cried in his shoulder he proceded to skip class to make sure I didn't go and do anything stupid. that's just one example of how A.J. WAS a big brother type to spine of us. I will never stand up for what he did that day. But this article is infuriating. I can't believe you wold stoOP so low in your journalistic endeavors as to insult a teenager who was clearly going through some very twisted shit. Also to anyone trying to paint Michael Fischer and JeRemy as saints you should see the messages thru were sending A.J. about how they were going to "gangbang his bitch" and other such nonsense that further egged on the situation.

Posted by ccc on 11/05/2016 at 7:03 AM

Re: “Hearing set for Friday on parks measure

The presentation to council on the ballot initiative has now been moved to Monday, November 21, 1pm in Council Chambers at City Hall.

Posted by doonya on 11/05/2016 at 12:01 AM

Re: “Strawberry Fields headed for court, again

So one wonders if taking the Title Board rejection to the court will raise the question above and/or out-of-reach of the corruption .... or not?

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Posted by doonya on 11/04/2016 at 11:12 PM

Re: “Blue October aren't so blue anymore

Need Justin back on album blows

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Posted by Mike Conville on 11/04/2016 at 11:01 PM

Re: “Bad reflection on our city

Dear chas - who thinks quotes from a person's reflection is poor writing;
The fact that the council is mostly old and almost always white is correct which means it is not ageism or racism. Something tells me that you are some where right now complaining about a PC culture ruining 'Merica.

It would be nice to see some of our younger small business owners get on council.

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Posted by TruB on 11/04/2016 at 8:15 PM

Re: “Dear Gazette, I don't think that word means what you think it means

The G also doesn't the word disclosure.
As in the G should disclose their relationship with the people paid to run the Trump and Darryl Glenn's campaign.

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Posted by TruB on 11/04/2016 at 7:50 PM

Re: “Strawberry Fields headed for court, again

Have you read the 'Strong Mayor" Charter-change ballot measure? It had about 20 subjects. When members of the Colorado Springs Cabal want something on the ballot and prepare to spend hundreds of thousands to get people to vote for it, like the strong mayor issue that Nor'wood leadership spent $800k+ to get passed, the title board will ALWAYS approve it. If the same cabal doesn't want it, it won't pass, like the charter change to require a vote for public money spent on a stadium.

Furthermore, it is an inherent conflict of interest that all three members of the Title Board report to the same individual, thanks to the "strong mayor" Charter change. The "strong mayor" can fire all three of them without cause and without concurrence of City Council. In this case, the mayor made personal phone calls to each member of Council urging them to vote for the swap, making it clear that he wanted this deal done and each member of the Title Board was certainly aware of that fact.

It is unsettled law whether or not the Title Board is even allowed to serve as an additional wicket to an initiated ballot measure, but we all go along with it. If the mayor, elected with a huge influx of money from the same special interests who want or don't want something to happen in Colorado Springs, the appearance certainly exists that the right to petition your government is infringed because of the conflict of interest in him/her being able to fire the Title Board.

Here is a run-down of a few ballot measures that passed/failed the title board:

--PASSED. Requiring a vote of citizens before public money could be spent to even consider a convention center. Of course, the back story on that is that the Broadmoor DID NOT WANT competition from the public sector for business that might otherwise use their facility, so they pushed for this effort. A backroom deal was struck between the Broadmoor side of this issue and the Nor'wood side of the issue and both agreed not to spend huge money fighting/or promoting. In the unintentional balance struck by this deal, citizens actually voted on the issue as they saw it on the ballot--not based on lies and deception broadcast with huge sums of cash.

--FAILED. Requiring a vote of the citizens before public money could be spent to even consider a stadium. On the first go-around, Anita Miller used the exact same language and it failed 2-1. On reconsideration, she hired an attorney and had to make changes that the Board passed, but only after realizing their bluff would be called. Of course that cost money (that we didn't really have). [Unfortunately we had no money to pay circulators to get the onerous number of required signatures. (that's another story--about how the number is determined). The delay took away a valuable signature-gathering time before the deadline.] So, who didn't want such a limitation on their stadium? Nor'wood who owned the land, will be in charge of the development and squandered city resources trying to ram it down our own throats (and is still trying to do so). Even the Broadmoor backs the stadium, possibly because the Broadmoor's parent owner also owns "AEG" who does stadiums.

--PASSED. "Council-Mayor" government in the City Charter. This involved extensive and multiple changes. Somehow the Title Board saw to place title on it as "single subject." Who wanted it? Who paid LOTS of money to get it passed?

It's unfortunate, but true...citizens have little to NO control of their own government from the local level all the way up. That could change if only the large majority of voting citizens would have some skepticism of what they read in the newspaper (owned by the same company that owns the Broadmoor and AEG). I certainly don't argue that the First Amendment guarantees the right of anyone to own a newspaper and publish what they want--it would just be nice if people had a way to see through the deception and advertising published in all sections of the Gazette and see the truth...and took the time to do so.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 11/04/2016 at 5:35 PM

Re: “Hate in politics, Standing Rock, dumping the good ol' boys, and more

Longinos Gonzalez is the much better candidate in Commissioner District 4 race. He is an AF veteran, teacher, and also a successful small businessman. He would bring much needed diversity to local leadership that we keep asking for, has been involved locally and spoken on behalf of poor neighborhoods, at-risk kids, and on veterans issues. And he is a political outsider, having pulled off a surprise, upset victory in his primary.

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Posted by School Teacher 2014 on 11/04/2016 at 12:52 PM

Re: “The First Tee develop opportunities for young athletes

As a volunteer Coach and Mentor in my third year at The First Tee of the Pikes Peak Region, I have had the pleasure of seeing a metamorphosis (if you will) in the attitudes and critical thing of our kids as they embrace the Core Values. I am honored to be a part of this adventure in cultivating our youth.

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Posted by Jack Wilner on 11/04/2016 at 12:33 PM

Re: “Hearing set for Friday on parks measure

Did I say tomorrow? ... I meant Monday.

Posted by doonya on 11/04/2016 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Hearing set for Friday on parks measure

It cannot be said any better than was stated by Clara McKenna just yesterday in the comment section of the Indy article entitled "Battle over Strawberry Fields continues in court and, maybe, at the ballot box."

She wrote:

"It's not about Strawberry Fields, if it ever was. It's about a perceived attempt at an end run around the public interest."

The land in question belongs to the citizens of Colorado Springs.The city forfeited any right it ever had to act in our stead the moment the Parks Department commenced dealing IN SECRET with the Broadmoor. Had transparency been applied from the outset we would not be standing in council chambers tomorrow hoping to avert a $300,000 expense for our citizens. City Council missed the boat the first time. With any luck they will not make the same mistake twice. Now is the time for Colorado Springs government to catch on to the concept which first and irrevocably entered the minds and hearts of all Americans more than 150 years ago ....

"Of the people, by the people and for the people."

Abraham Lincoln
Gettysburg Address

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Posted by doonya on 11/04/2016 at 10:04 AM

Re: “Battle over Strawberry Fields continues in court and, maybe, at the ballot box

Jim Davies, think you started it: "How can Pam Zubeck still get the details of the exchange wrong? Incredible...", and then proceeded to make a case. The Incline is not mentioned on the petition as the opponents are opposed to commercializing historic parkland. If the City wants to take on that behemoth of a liability, they are free to do so. Clearly, the Bmoor is willing to unload it. Who wouldn't be, from a business cost/benefit analysis? It is undevelopable land which brings great liability risk with it and generates no income....actually, all the animals featured in the petition are, in fact, in Strawberry Fields. Just saw a bear munching on tree ivy a few days ago. It is teeming with wildlife -- it is a corridor which abuts National forest and nearby water sources. Don't recall hearing Muscoco being covered in trash, but Strawberry is NOT as was asserted. The appraisals, which I think is what you call assessments, required 4 open records requests to get, and even the Mayor ended up publicly suggesting the Council focus on total acreage as opposed to value. What? Or, how about the fact that one cannot get a bank loan on Restricted Appraisals -- so much for soundness of that methodology. Let's move on and let the people decide. It is our land.

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Posted by Dana Duggan on 11/04/2016 at 9:43 AM

Re: “Bad reflection on our city

The homeless people take advantage of us taxpayers. All these panhandlers asking for money they need to get a job find a place and get off the streets I've seen it first-hand homeless man can get a job and get off the streets. That's what's wrong with our country now everybody wants to give stuff to poor people or people that didn't work for it. Why do these people think they're entitled if they didn't earn it or work for it. And no we don't need millennials AKA young people on City Council. This city would go hell in a handbag

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Posted by Keitha1182 on 11/04/2016 at 8:15 AM

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