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Re: “Suthers' reefer madness

Richard Nixon turned marijuana into a narcotic! That is political power! He did that so his detractors could be arrested because they liked marijuana and when in jail they were unable to vote for someone better than Dick. Then he started the DEA to terrorize everyone in the world and catch wrong voters even to this day (even though Dick is dead). Racist drug laws were no more! Now we have 2 million political prisoners in America. And your doctor must pay several hundreds of dollars every year to the DEA to be able to write your prescriptions! These DEA guys are real nifty but are banned from several South American countries. The countries were tired of being bombed and shot up by the DEA.
Can I join the El Paso Gang? I do not have girl parts but I like girl parts. I only use medicinal alcohol such as Peruna "Prohibition Tonic" which may or may not cause Jake-Leg, the jury is still out.

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 03/24/2015 at 2:06 AM

Re: “Overcoming a sordid past

That song is just dumb. Now here is a real funny one about City Hall by Frank Zappa, Amanda, prepare to be disgusted again and again and who are you anyway to judge REAL music? Now, back to 1966!

"Brown Shoes Don't Make It"

Brown shoes don't make it
Brown shoes don't make it
Quit school, why fake it
Brown shoes don't make it

TV dinner by the pool
Watch your brother grow a beard
Got another year of school
You're okay, he's too weird
Be a plumber
He's a bummer
He's a bummer every summer
Be a loyal plastic robot
For a world that doesn't care
That's right

Smile at every ugly
Shine on your shoes and cut your hair

Be a jerk-go to work
Be a jerk-go to work
Be a jerk-go to work
Be a jerk-go to work
Do your job, and do it right
Life's a ball
TV tonight
Do you love it
Do you hate it
There it is
The way you made it

A world of secret hungers
Perverting the men who make your laws
Every desire is hidden away
In a drawer in a desk by a naugahyde chair
On a rug where they walk and drool
Past the girls in the office

We see in the back
Of the City Hall mind
The dream of a girl about thirteen
Off with her clothes and into a bed
Where she tickles his fancy
All night long

His wife's attending an orchid show
She squealed for a week to get him to go
But back in the bed his teen-age queen
Is rocking and rolling and acting obscene
Baby, baby. ..
Baby, baby. . .

And he loves it, he loves it
It curls up his toes
She wipes his fat neck
And it lights up his nose
But he cannot be fooled
Old City Hall Fred
She's nasty, she's nasty
She digs it in bed

Do it again
And do it some more
that does it, by golly
And it's nasty for sure
Nasty nasty nasty
Nasty nasty nasty
Only thirteen, and she knows how to nasty

She's a dirty young mind, corrupted corroded
Well she's thirteen today
And I hear she gets loaded

If she were my daughter, I'd...
What would you do, Daddy?
If she were my daughter, I'd ...
What would you do, Daddy?
Check this out
Smother my daughter in chocolate syrup
And strap her on again, oh baby
Smother that girl in chocolate syrup
And strap her on again, oh baby
She's a teen-age baby
She turns me on
I'd like to make her do a nasty
On the White House lawn
Smother my daughter in chocolate syrup
And boogie 'till the cows come home

Time to go home
Madge is on the phone
Got to meet the Gurney's and a dozen grey attorneys
TV dinner by the pool
I'm so glad I finished school
Life is such a ball
I run the world from City Hall

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 03/24/2015 at 1:36 AM

Re: “Pale, male and stale

Can we find something to not blame Doug Bruce for? Pathetic blame-game and how does one "soak" a poor person? "Poor" means to have very little if any money at all. I had some money but it fell into a pothole. If potholes get much deeper we will be able to see all the secret tunnels nobody knows about. The ones in which bootleggers and freed slaves inhabit. Those tunnels kriss-kross the country and politicians hide from constituents in them. Where the upstanding leaders sneak from City Hall to the many brothels that nobody knows about and engage in kinky sex that The Indy backs in every election not because of Douglas Bruce but because "perverse" rhymes with "diverse". City council should pay to do community service like everyone else.

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 03/24/2015 at 1:16 AM

Re: “Election 2015: a passion pit

Frank Liebner of Larkspur is a self-described ultra-conservative and would-have-been billionaire had he not fought other people's wars around the world! He is also in favor of forcing people to vote. Head injury Frank? Forcing a person to vote? What's next? Telling them for whom to vote? That is usually what occurs in those situations, followed by imprisonment followed by executions. I would not think anyone who says "Electrical College" should vote. I have heard people say that very thing. Losing the Right to vote is something our screwed up judicial system uses as a punishment. Taxing someone for not voting is just plain screwed up.
By the way Frank, I stopped voting years ago because I just do not care for giving a lying thief the job of running my life.
Now, what the hell is "Ultra-Conservative"?

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 03/24/2015 at 12:49 AM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

"Newsrooms see nothing wrong with allowing pot users to analyze and report on drug policy and write pro-weed columns and tell us how to baste our Thanksgiving turkeys with THC."

Is that what goes on at The Gazette?

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 03/23/2015 at 10:14 PM

Re: “Voodoo Leatherworks

It is a sex club disguised as an art venue. If you want sleazy old men hitting on you this is the place for you.

Posted by christianright on 03/23/2015 at 9:56 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

From Christine Tatum's Facebook:

I just read that Colorado Indy report. It's ludicrous -- as are so many of the charges leveled at Chris and me.
Good thing I remain royally amused on one level:
Newsrooms see nothing wrong with allowing pot users to analyze and report on drug policy and write pro-weed columns and tell us how to baste our Thanksgiving turkeys with THC.
And then a journalist whose research has led her to very different conclusions comes along, and she's married to a doctor who stands against legalization with every major medical society in the developed world, and has spent years watching the travesties these pot-loving journalists clearly don't want to bother reporting, and everyone blows up with cries of lapses of journalism ethics when I speak or write.
It's hard for me to take them seriously.
And it's even tougher for me to care about the sentiments of a publication like The Independent, which probably derives about 15 percent of its annual revenue from marijuana-related ad sales.

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Posted by Andrew Phelps on 03/23/2015 at 9:56 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

From Christine Tatum's Facebook:

"And actually, Dana, I just read that Colorado Indy report. It's ludicrous -- as are so many of the charges leveled at Chris and me.
Good thing I remain royally amused on one level:
Newsrooms see nothing wrong with allowing pot users to analyze and report on drug policy and write pro-weed columns and tell us how to baste our Thanksgiving turkeys with THC.
And then a journalist whose research has led her to very different conclusions comes along, and she's married to a doctor who stands against legalization with every major medical society in the developed world, and has spent years watching the travesties these pot-loving journalists clearly don't want to bother reporting, and everyone blows up with cries of lapses of journalism ethics when I speak or write.
It's hard for me to take them seriously.
And it's even tougher for me to care about the sentiments of a publication like The Independent, which probably derives about 15 percent of its annual revenue from marijuana-related ad sales."

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Posted by Andrew Phelps on 03/23/2015 at 9:54 PM

Re: “Revisiting Palmer's vision: Building heights

Underground parking would be helpful, but it calls for regulations of a different sort. Instead of regulating the height of new buildings, the city would need to require all new buildings above a certain height to include underground parking in their design.

Personally, having grown up in New York City, I prefer to cap all new construction at six floors max. That is based purely on esthetics. I feel sure there are many economic arguments working against it.

Posted by Mr. K-- on 03/23/2015 at 9:50 PM

Re: “Lamborn backs 'so help me God' bill

"Americans don’t have 'freedom from religion.'" Thomas Jefferson is rolling over in his grave.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 03/23/2015 at 9:32 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

Hilarious how you all attack here. Find one source in there that isn't right.. You can't. Just bc it's not part of your pro pot agenda, you attack. Stay classy!

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Posted by acker on 03/23/2015 at 9:23 PM

Re: “Overcoming a sordid past

Funny to see "The Independent" refer to another establishment as "irrelevant." Oh, the irony.

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Posted by Runt on 03/23/2015 at 7:02 PM
Posted by wpmurrayIII on 03/23/2015 at 6:40 PM

Re: “Lamborn backs 'so help me God' bill

So according to Doug Lamborn, if I don't believe in God, I shouldn't be allowed to serve my country...which incidentally, is a service Doug never felt compelled to perform.

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Posted by Owen on 03/23/2015 at 6:25 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

Gazette editorials have been heavily biased and short on facts since Anschutz bought the daily. Laugesen no longer touts his supposed Libertarian beliefs, as he must kowtow to the owner if he wishes to continue receiving a paycheck.

As others have said, the series is one-sided and disgusting.

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Posted by Rhino2 on 03/23/2015 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

How was Christine Tatum even allowed to write in the news section for this paper?

Everything on her facebook page ( https://www.facebook.com/christinetatum ) is strongly anti-cannabis rhetoric, she writes:

"Medical experts warned ‪#‎Colorado‬ state lawmakers that even 1 nanogram of THC, the active ingredient in ‪#‎marijuana‬, per milliliter of whole blood could double the risk of a car accident"

THC levels can spike to over 100ng/ml when one is high. Even high drivers have not been shown to significantly increase crash risk.


Cannabis does cause some impairment, however studies have shown that consumers tend to overestimate this impairment, and that they compensate for it with added caution. Alcohol tends to do the opposite, consumers perceive their impairment to be less that what it is and often become overconfident, aggressive, and careless. [Robbe and O'Hanlon. 1993; Robbe. 1995]

In 2015 the U.S. government completed the largest case controlled study to date regarding DUI of cannabis. It involved over 9,000 cases and controls spanning a 20-month period. It found that cannabis use while driving is not associated with increased crash risk once adjusted for confounding variables such as age, race, gender, and the presence of other drugs, including alcohol:

"This analysis shows that the significant increased risk of crash involvement associated with THC and illegal drugs shown in Table 3 is not found after adjusting for these demographic variables."

Further, they found that cannabis did not add to the crash risk for drivers under the influence of alcohol:

"As was described above, there was no difference in crash risk for marijuana (THC)-positive drivers who were also positive for alcohol than for marijuana (THC)-positive drivers with no alcohol, beyond the risk attributable to alcohol."

They found that alcohol significantly increased crash risk:

"at moderate alcohol levels (0.05 BrAC) risk increases to double that of sober drivers, and at a higher level (0.10 BrAC) the risk increases to five and a half times. At a BrAC of 0.15, the risk is 12 times, and by BrACs of 0.20+ the risk is over 23 times higher."

Compton and Berning. DOT HS 812 117. Drug and Alcohol Crash Risk. U.S. Department of Transportation - National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. 2015.

SOURCES:

--Robbe and O'Hanlon. DOT HS 808 078. Marijuana and actual driving performance. U.S. Department of Transportation - National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. 1993.
--Robbe H. Marijuana’s effects on actual driving performance. HHMRC Road Research Unit, University of Adelaide. 1995.

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Posted by Herb Reese on 03/23/2015 at 4:13 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

It is clear that The Gazette has an anti-legalization agenda here. Every story is biased against legalization supported by groundless rhetoric and misleading stats.

Analyzing Colorado's grand experiment, March 22, 2015
http://gazette.com/analyzing-colorados-grand-experiment/article/1548294


Addressing driver impairment difficult, March 22, 2015
http://gazette.com/addressing-driver-impairment-difficult/article/1548297


State prevention efforts criticized, March 22, 2015
http://gazette.com/state-prevention-efforts-criticized/article/1548298


No tax windfall from medical, retail sales, March 22, 2015
http://gazette.com/no-tax-windfall-from-medical-retail-sales/article/1548295


Regulation still ineffective, March 22, 2015
http://gazette.com/regulation-still-ineffective/article/1548296


Black market is thriving in Colorado, March 23, 2015
http://gazette.com/black-market-is-thriving-in-colorado/article/1548305


Legalization didn’t unclog prisons, March 23, 2015
http://gazette.com/legalization-didnt-unclog-prisons/article/1548308


Potency creating problems, March 23, 2015
http://gazette.com/potency-creating-problems/article/1548302


Tough task for law enforcement, March 23, 2015
http://gazette.com/tough-task-for-law-enforcement/article/1548304


Authorities alarmed over increase in hash oil explosions, March 23, 2015
http://gazette.com/authorities-alarmed-over-increase-in-hash-oil-explosions/article/1548303

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Posted by Herb Reese on 03/23/2015 at 4:04 PM

Re: “Is the Gazette's new marijuana series a joke?

Thank you, Bryce, for again calling into question the suspect journalistic ethics and integrity of the Gazette.

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Posted by Quid pro quo on 03/23/2015 at 2:29 PM

Re: “Revisiting Palmer's vision: Building heights

Also putting parking below a tall building helps a lot without unsightly parking lots.

Posted by Cheryl Murphy Barry on 03/22/2015 at 5:37 PM

Re: “Revisiting Palmer's vision: Building heights

Building height cannot be discussed without considering transportation and parking. Shorter buildings that stretch out across several blocks also provide several blocks of parking space. Taller buildings concentrated in a small area do not add much to the parking space, and will require a more comprehensive and efficient public transportation system to discourage people from driving downtown to work.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 03/21/2015 at 1:13 PM

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