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Re: “Memorial Health System money shows tiny gain for city

Gary, leasing MHS was one of Bach's paybacks to the Koch Bros who lust to kill public employee unions and their pension funds (PERA). Koch Bros are the real GOP death panel. The contracting out of city auto mechanics was another payback.

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Posted by OldCrank on 08/23/2014 at 6:37 PM

Re: “Jenkins to donate land for Olympic museum

Why isn't the pied piper of tabor challenging this gouge?

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Posted by OldCrank on 08/23/2014 at 6:34 PM

Re: “Jenkins to donate land for Olympic museum

A letter writer to the Gazette asks the $64K question. This is the question that the C4C proponents do not and will not ask, let alone answer, which is: "Are the citizens of COS really for this City for Champions?" The writer then states the obvious: "Let the COS public vote on this issue."

Permit me to respond to Mr. Letter Writer: C4C won't be put to a vote because THEY - Jenkins, the mayor, and City Leaders - don't HAVE to put it to a vote. Unlike raising taxes, siphoning off future sales tax revenue to pay the bond debt to build the stadium does not require a vote of approval from the people. Therefore, not trusting the non-visionary blind-as-a-bat public to know what's best for them, THEY won't put the stadium to a vote.

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Posted by curious on 08/23/2014 at 6:03 PM

Re: “Memorial Health System money shows tiny gain for city

Did anyone honestly think the city was going to make any "real" money on the MHS deal? Face it, leasing Memorial was someone's deluded Fantasy. Would the person or persons who pushed the MHS deal with UCH care to stand up and take responsiblity for their mistakes?

UCH lost $28M on their first year of operating Memorial. How many years of losses will UCH absorb before bailing on the 40 year lease. Three? Four? Five years at the outside?

At that time there will be a new city council and mayor with no institutionl memory of the Memorial deal and watch them scramble because they will not have a clue of what to do.

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Posted by Gary Casimir on 08/23/2014 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Robin Williams, Hickenlooper and fracking, sisters' gratitude, and more

Lamborn is the worst ever. He deserves to be booted out of office. In my lifetime I've never seen anyone in Congress willingly avoid a SOTU speech, except Lamborn, who also used the term tar baby in conjunction with out president. He's a disgrace to us all.

The bills sitting in Reid's inbox contain poisonous provisions, like repealing the ACA, and as such were sent up by Boehner who knows full well they'll never see the light of day in the Senate. By the same token, there are bills in Boehner's inbox that are not acceptable to the GOP, like the Senate's version of an immigration reform bill that Boehner won't bring up for a vote.

Meanwhile, Hickenlooper has presided over Colorado's business in a fine manner. Just the other day it was reported that Colorado has the BEST economy in the nation. Here, read the links:
http://tinyurl.com/o8vvltq and http://tinyurl.com/pplvn76

BTW: It's spelled GARDNER and he most certainly is part of the war on women.

Everything written by "publisher" is a lie, but that's normal these days for the GOP/TEA.

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Posted by OldCrank on 08/23/2014 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Robin Williams, Hickenlooper and fracking, sisters' gratitude, and more

Gary Casimir - Lamborn has done many things for the Springs that you do not want to recognize. Shame on you. In addition, with Harry Reid in the Senate refusing to take up the 350 bills waiting for the senate to debate and sign, nothing is getting done in Washington.
To citizens of the Springs - Vote anything but Democratic in 2014. Throw out Hickenlooper who is a total waste of a governor - he lost jobs and tax revenue, over rode the will of the citizens in getting a killer removed from society, and he generally has been ineffective in getting anything significant done for the state. Udall is just as bad. He never answers letters with anything but another form letter, he has his phony war on women nonsense and he has not brought home the bacon for Colorado - like Reid has done for Vegas. He also LIES like Hickenlooper.

Consider another party such as the GOP or TEA PARTY and vote for Beauprez and Gardener in 2014.

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Posted by Publisherpikespeakregionlivingmagazine on 08/23/2014 at 10:33 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

Let's take a moment to look back at the comment that triggered this thread: your specious claim that "a video capture a bystander stating that Brown was charging at the officer." Whereas the bystander never used the word "charging," and the running he is mumbling about could have been referring to Brown running away from the officer.

You should have written there is a video that captures a bystander "who might be saying that Michael Brown was running toward the officer when he was shot."

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 08/22/2014 at 5:35 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

"Yes, that is exactly what I was driving at in my earlier comments. If the bystander assumed the officer missed because Michael Brown did not immediately drop, then when he said, "The Police shot him," it likely was after seeing Brown finally drop. Once he dropped, Brown did not get up again. So, if the bystander subsequently said, "...the dude started running..." he must have been referring to the events that led up to Brown's death, and the comments could refer to Brown either running away from the officer or running toward the officer."

Or, Brown was running at the police and the officer started shooting, but because he did not drop immediately when the first shots were fired, the bystander assumed that the police were missing him. The final two shots appear to be what brought him down. Which accounts for the "the police was missing" and the "the dude started running" comments and accounts for all the entrance wounds being to the front of the body, save one head wound that entered more towards the top, probably after the second to last hit which also hit Brown in the head.

As for the hot to the inner forearm, any number of stances or movements could account for that. In fact the examiner stated that at least one bullet entered, exited, and re-entered the body -- this normally occurs with arms.

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Posted by Dave H on 08/22/2014 at 1:37 PM

Re: “Jenkins to donate land for Olympic museum

Drake will be replaced...someday....but do it on OUR schedule without being rushed by any developer's profit motive as aided and abetted by a mayor they own.

I'd like to see the long narrow plot of land by the tracks used for mid-rise condos done in conjunction with rail passenger service from Pueblo to Fort Collins. I'm not talking pie in the sky exorbitantly costly high-speed rail, but modern heavy rail ~90MPH trains.

Condos will put affordable, walkable, living in the downtown. Rail stops at Carson, downtown, UCCS/University Village, USAFA, Monument, Larkspur, Castle Rock, etc can be served by low tech, low cost, feeder buses to move passengers to/from nearby neighborhoods, colleges, and attractions. With this we'll have a transport utility that revitalizes an entire linear corridor, just as Denver's emerging light rail system is doing to areas all around Denver metro area.

Developers and wealthy types often donate land or money for the good press it gets them, but I'm not inclined to give them a pass or let them off the hook for doing the right thing(s) for our city. They need to provide development that works for all the people who live here, and I'm not sure that C4C is the way to do that.

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Posted by OldCrank on 08/22/2014 at 1:04 PM

Re: “GMO labeling makes the ballot

THis is dumb. The people who seek GMO labelling are specifically looking to fearmonger individuals into buying organic labeled food. There's no reason for a label and it's all built from hysteria from ignorance about biotech foods.

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Posted by Steven Alexander Shaver on 08/22/2014 at 12:50 PM

Re: “War gear for local cops

Dave, it was reported on, fairly widely, before Ferguson. Some of those same stories are being referenced in new stories tied to Ferguson, hence "resurfaced." We're not trying to fool or confuse anyone; just the opposite. And if there were similar programs predating the early '90s, we weren't aware of them.

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Posted by Robert Meyerowitz on 08/22/2014 at 12:49 PM

Re: “Former Springs newspaper saleswoman sued by SEC

How is it a civil matter when people got defrauded out of millions. If I go right now and steal something worth over 500$ it is automatically a felony. What I am saying is there is a terrible double standard and that's what people in Ferguson are protesting. And yes it does have to do with being white, it is her skin color that allowed her to gain credibility in the racist business world of Colorado Springs and its being white and connected that will get this whole case brushed under the rug, watch. God forbid other city counsel or chamber of commerce members are going to be exposed.

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Posted by daWU on 08/22/2014 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Jenkins to donate land for Olympic museum

Altho I like how Drake looks in all its gloomy grayness, I'm willing to compromise to appease the aesthetically sensitive. It would cost only a few thousand taxpayer dollars to prettify Drake by painting it varying shades of GREEN. This cosmetic alteration would make Drake a steam-breathing 99% pollution-free piece of cutting-edge landscape architecture. A living sculpture worthy of its majestic location. A magnet to attract tourists that neither Denver nor Aurora can boast of having. And best of all, Drake will be a monument that will make the citizenry PROUD to live in forward-thinking, problem-solving COS.

And while we've got the paint cans handy, let's give the coal cars, engine and caboose some much needed image enhancement and paint them GREEN as well. And, as a final triumphant touch, 16 flags can be mounted on the I-25 side of Drake spelling out "City For Champions." This bit of flag waving is sure to entice the road-weary tourist enroute to Denver and beyond to exit the freeway and experience for themselves the excitement of visiting America's other Olympic Museum.

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Posted by curious on 08/22/2014 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Mormon Church abandons its crusade against gay marriage

Today is my wedding anniversary and I have a lot to rejoice about. My husband is home and we are celebrating together. The Enemy came in and tried to have his way and that's when I found your email and I am standing ever since. Although my husband never physically left, Dr Lawrence brought his heart home and today we can celebrate each other. Dr Lawrence has been so good and so helpful to us. What a great man you are thank you so much Drlawrencespelltemple@gmail.com

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Posted by Laura Benson on 08/22/2014 at 7:44 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

Since we are talking autopsy, one of the bullets went through Michael Brown's inner forearm. When a person is just standing with his arms at his sides, the inner forearm faces his body. When a person is running, or "charging" he usually pumps his arms in rhythm with his feet, again with the inner forearm facing his body. On the other hand, when a person has his hands up in the air, the inner forearm faces forward.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 08/21/2014 at 11:44 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

Approximately ten days into the protests in Ferguson, St. Louis police shot and killed a Black man less than four miles from where Michael Brown was shot, yet there was no violent reaction from the community.

The St. Louis Chief of Police went out to the scene within 90 minutes with a preliminary report. ("These reports don't just magically appear, they take time.") He took all questions from the community and the media, including the very tough question of why the officers did not use tasers instead of deadly force.

In my humble opinion, the difference is not in the citizens of these two communities, but in their police departments. At the very least, the Ferguson police have demonstrated their total incompetence, which is frightening in view of the armament at their disposal, and needs to be thoroughly overhauled from top to bottom.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 08/21/2014 at 11:28 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

Yes, that is exactly what I was driving at in my earlier comments. If the bystander assumed the officer missed because Michael Brown did not immediately drop, then when he said, "The Police shot him," it likely was after seeing Brown finally drop. Once he dropped, Brown did not get up again. So, if the bystander subsequently said, "...the dude started running..." he must have been referring to the events that led up to Brown's death, and the comments could refer to Brown either running away from the officer or running toward the officer.

I am sure more than six shots were fired. One shot is reported to have hit someone's home. Witnesses say the officer ran after Brown, firing his weapon, as Brown was running away. Many people are troubled by this alone and are calling it negligent.

One eye witness says that as Brown ran away from the officer, his body suddenly jerked as if he had been hit by a bullet. Perhaps, he was not hit by a bullet and there is some other reasonable explanation for that body reaction. I was trying to point out that the bystander did not see this jerking motion, just as he did not see the bullets actually hit Brown, so he was probably not close enough to tell if Brown was coming at the officer or just keeling over dead.

Another eye witness says Brown was shot in the stomach and dropped to his knees, while the officer continued to shoot him three or four more times.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 08/21/2014 at 11:03 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

The bystander might assume that the officer kept missing when the shots did not immediately drop Brown. Furthermore, Brown was hit 6 times and it is very likely that more than 6 shot were fired.

To be shot while running away, he would be shot somewhere on the back side of his body.

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Posted by Dave H on 08/21/2014 at 8:51 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

Now you are splitting hairs. I have already said it was a possibility that the bystander was referring to Michael Brown coming at the officer.

The bystander did say the officer kept missing, whereas the officer did not miss. When the bystander concludes the police shot him it is likely he noticed this because that was when he saw Brown fall. Brown did not get up and start running after he fell.

Of course, "likely" is not conclusive, and perhaps, as you insist, the bystander saw Brown getting shot, and also saw him running toward the officer after getting shot. That only adds a third possibility to the two I have already pointed out. That leaves the statement open to interpretation, and therefore unreliable, which was my point.

By the way, I did not say Brown was shot in the back. He was shot while running away according to an eye witness. The bystander says the officer already had his gun drawn before Brown turned around. I did not say Brown "started moving toward the police." I said he had his hands up in the universal gesture of surrender. Whether or not Brown was hit by a bullet while trying to run away, he was hit when his hands were up, causing him to stumble a few steps as he fell. This stumbling could easily account for the bystander's statement that Brown was coming at the officer.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 08/21/2014 at 8:22 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Local prof responds to Ferguson: Don't mess with the cops

Mr. K--

Why could Brown not start running after being shot? According to you he was shot in the back while running away and then turned around and started moving towards the police.

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Posted by Dave H on 08/21/2014 at 7:13 PM

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