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Re: “Smoking: Whose choice is it?

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I apologize for my terrible grammer and spelling on that last one, I am tired, here it is properly written.

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Courtney, my comment was not aimed to attack or offend you. I was simply trying to make a point-- just because you’re a medical student doesn't mean you’re the only one well educated on the issue. Am I the only one here who knows about human nature, behavior, and thought processes as I am a psychology major? It's not likely. Just be aware you’re not the only individual who might know the risks. Please don't be offended or take it personally, I would like to assure you I meant nothing personal by it. If we weren’t all fairly educated we wouldn’t bother with this debate. I do respect your choice to pursue a career in the medical field, my studies of neuroscience have given me a great appreciation of the human body.


Barbie, it is quite odd and highly unfortunate you have such an allergy. I personally do not think I should be able to smoke openly in public restaurants and such. I do realize that there are people like you out there and others who also are severely affected by smoke. Believe it or not I do have the courtesy not to force the ill effects of my habit upon those who are against it. Hell, to be honest even as a smoker I absolutely despise the smell and presence of smoke while eating.

My grandpa (who also died from lung cancer due to his chain-smoking, so yeas I feel that pain too) used to smoke while he was eating. I used to hate sitting at the dinner table with him, as while I was trying to enjoy a home cooked meal he would smoke. I commonly lost my appetite. I do entirely understand and agree with your points. You are simply not looking at what I was really trying to say.

You are also misinformed. The masses have not decided on smoking regulation. In the last presidential election, only 18% (roughly) of citizens registered to vote actually chose to vote. If only 18% of voters chose to vote for something as significant as our president, imagine the percentage who voted for smoking. There is also a large group of American citizens who never registered to vote. So no, the majority didn't decide, which brings me to the true premise of my article.


Once again I am forced to state that my piece was not really about smoking. I simply used smoking as a premise to convey my point that Americans are losing their voice and by choice nonetheless. I am sorry if I chose a touchy topic to express my point, but oh well.

Although America is a republic, we do still operate as a democratic state. Fundamentally, democracy requires that people voice their opinions to their legislatures. It is absurd to elect a politician into office without letting them know our opinions. We elect representatives for a self explanatory purpose- to represent us. Oddly enough we elect officials and largely fail to let them know what we want to be represented on.

My whole premise has little to do with smoking, I honestly don’t mind smoking outside or away from the public. I wrote this paper after sitting at the smoking box on my campus, and was constantly listening to people complaining about us having to be separated. Many of those individuals chose to complain about it, but never choose to voice how they feel. So I did it for them in an attempt to make it known that we as a nation need to voice our opinions if we really want a greater society. Whether it is smoking or zoning legislation does not matter. If we want a more productive and equally represented state, then it is on us to stand up.

We have been blessed as Americans to live in a country where we have the privilege to voice our thoughts. What bugs me is people take that right for granted. Instead of playing our necessary proactive role, many people just vote for someone and hope they do well. Apparently, the majority doesn't even vote. Then, when said politician makes a faux pa people generally get angry and blame the politician. How is that politician suppose to know what is best, when the general public won't let him/her know what that politician is representing?

Lets quit beating this dead horse on smoking. It was a facade for a bigger message that apparently most people didn't quite see. I am done with the subject of smoking. That wasn't at all my intention. I’m no longer going to reply to anything on here, and I suggest you do the same. Instead of mindlessly arguing on an internet blog, we should all be out there working for a better society. I wish the Independent techies who run this site would close this to discussion.

On another note, I don't know why people read a liberal paper if they are going to get offended. This is what makes liberals to be liberals. We are free-thinking individuals who speak our mind regardless of the norm. The problem is society is taking things to personally. People have decided to become somewhat too sensitive- or in the words of the Governator "girly-men". Deal with it. If you want to be a liberal, don't be so offended. People like me speaking my mind is what makes being a liberal great. We do this. I am getting tired of being considered a "bleeding heart" because others are oversensitive. No, don’t take it personally I am not trying to offend anyone. I am simply trying to say we need to look at the bigger picture.

Retrospect is a very important entity, much beyond the indolent bickering that has occurred in this blog. Many people don't look at the bigger picture, only how they are affected with their own biases. I am Jungian, and therefore look at the world much differently. I don't expect anyone to see it the same way, nor would I want them to.

To me what I love about about this country is the fact we all can get on the computer and freely reply to someone's opinion with our own. We are a country made up of many different views, backgrounds, and thoughts. I love the fact none of us agree, if we did all agree I would move somewhere else. Society would not fruitfully succeed if we all thought alike.

No I don't agree with Groundhog, Courtney, or Barbie. I do however admire the beauty of individuality. My point is we are all individuals, and therefore should express our individual ideas. Sitting around letting a few elected individuals do as they please is completely redundant to the foundation of this country. If this pattern continues, say hello to an oligarchy or perhaps the dreaded socialist state.

This nation is composed of many individuals. I hope to god that never changes. It will change though if we don’t exercise our rights as individuals. That is my point; I by no means am trying to smoke inside again. I just want to keep the beauty of this country alive.

All of those who disagree, right on. That’s your right, embrace it.

Posted by IamWhatIam on 06/08/2009 at 11:07 PM

Re: “Smoking: Whose choice is it?

Courtney, my comment was not aimed to attack or offend you. I was simply trying to make a point-- just because your a medical student doesn't mean your the only one well educated on the issue. Am Ithe only one here who knows about human nature, behavior, and thought processes as I am a psychology major? It's not likely. Just be aware your not the only individual who might know the risks. Please don't be offended or take it personally, I would luike to assure you I meant nothing personal by it.


Barbie, it is quite odd and highly unfortunate you have such an allergy. I personally do not think I should be able to smoke openly in public resturaunts and such. I do realize that there are people like you out there, and others who also are severely effected by smoke. Believe it or not I do have the courtesy not to force the ill effects of my habit upon those who are against it. Hell, to be honest even as a smoker I absolutely despise the smell and presence of smoke while eating.

My grandpa (who also died from lung cancer due to his chain-smoking, so yeas I feel that pain too) used to smoke while he was eating. I used to hate sitting at the dinner table with him, as while I was trying to enjoy a home cooked meal he would smoke. I commonly lost my appetite. I do entirely understand and agree with your points. You are simply not looking at what i was really trying to say.

You are also misinformed. The masses have not decided on smoking regulation. In the last presidential election, only 18% (roughly)of citizens registered to vote actually chose to vote. If only 18% of voters chose to vote for something as significant as our president, imagine the percentage who voted for smoking. There is also a large group of american citizen who never registered to vote. So no, the majority didn't decide, which brings me to the true premise of my article.


Once again I am forced to state that my peice was not really about smoking. I simply used smoking as a premise to convey my point that americans are losing thier voice, and by choice nonetheless. I am sorry if I chose a touchy topic to express my point, but oh well.

Although America is a republic, we do still operate as a democratic state. Fundamentally, democracy requires that people voice thier opinions to thier legislatures. It is absurd to elect a politician into office without letting them know our opinions. We elect representives for a self explanatory purpose- to represent us. Oddly enough we elect offcials and largely fail to let them know what we want to be represented on.

My whole premise has little to do with smoking, I honestly don;t mind smoking outside or away from the public. I wrote this paper after sitting at the smoking box on my campus, and was constanly listening to people complain about us having to be seperated. Many of those individuals chose to complain about it, but never choose to voice how they feel. So I did it for them in an attempt to make it known that we as a nation need to voice our opinions if we really want a greater society. Whether it be smoking or zoning legislation does not matter. If we want a more productive and equally represented state, then it is on us to stand up.

We have been blessed as americans to live in a country where we have the priviledge to voice our thoughts. What bugs me is people take that right for granted. Instead of playing our necessary proactive role, many people just vote for someone and hope they do well. Apparently, the majority doesn't even vote. Then, when said politician makes a faux pa people generally get angry and blame the politician. How is that politician suppose to know what is best, when the general public won't let him/her know what that politician is representing?

Lets quit beating this dead horse on smoking. It was a fasade for a bigger message that apparently most people didn't quite see. I am done with the subject of smoking. That wasn't at all my intention. Im no longer going to reply to anything on here, and I suggest you do the same. Instead of mindlessly arguing on an interenet blog, we should all be out there working for a better society. I wish the Independent techies who run this site would close this to discussion.

On another note, I don't know why people read a liberal paper if they are going to get offended. This is what makes liberals to be liberals. We are free-thinking individuals who speak our mind regardless of the norm. The problem is society is taking things to personally. People have decided to become some what too sensitive- or in the words of the governator "girly-men". Deal with it. If you want to be a liberal, don't be so offened. People like me speaking my mind is what makes being a liberal great. We do this. I am getting tired of being considered a "bleeding heart" because others are oversensitive. No, dont take it personally I am not trying to offend anyone. I am simply trying to say we need to look at the bigger picture.

Retrospect is a very important entity, much beyond the idolent bickering that has occured in this blog. Many people don't look at the bigger picture, only how they are affected with thier own biases. I am Jungian, and therefore look at the world much differently. I don't expect anyone to see it the same way, nor would I want them to.

To me what I love abouyt about this country is the fact we all can get on the computer and freely reply to someone's opinion with our own. We are a country made up of many different views, backgrounds, and thoughts. I love the fact none of us agree, if we did all agree I would move somewhere else. Society would not fruitfully succeed if we all thought alike.

No I don't agree with Groundhog, Courtney, or barbie. I do however admire the beauty of individuality. My point is we are all individuals, and therefore should express our individual ideas. Sitting around letting a few elected individuals do as they please is completely redundant to the foundation of this country. If this pattern continues, say hello to an oligarchy or perhaps the dreaded socialist state.

This nation is composed of many individuals. I hope to god that never changes. It will change though if we dont exercise our rights as individuals. That is my point, I by no means am trying to smoke inside again. I just want to keep the beauty of this country alive.

All of those who disagree, right on. Thats your right, embrace it.

Posted by IamWhatIam on 06/08/2009 at 11:05 PM

Re: “Smoking: Whose choice is it?

Thank you groundhog, was that so hard? The premise of the article is simply to convey how americans are taking less part in thier own government. Smoking was just a somewhat clever way to state it. No, I dont think we should be able to smoke absolutely everywhere. Yes it is wrong to get smoke in the lungs of children. Government and public service buildings (airports, train stations, courthouses, etc.) should all be non-smoking. However, it is absurd that we can't smoke anywhere, and they are now limiting where we can smoke outdoors. That is it. This was not meant to start a hostile debate, simply to let it be known we need to spek up for ourselves if we want change. Ok?

Ethan

Posted by IamWhatIam on 06/01/2009 at 11:58 AM

Re: “Smoking: Whose choice is it?

Ok everybody, time for me to come in. Yes I'm the "child, young man, idiot" that wrote this. I have a few contributions to your arguements.

First of all almost all of you fail to see the true premise of the piece. It is not entirely about smoking. It is about expressing your opinions and playing an active role in democracy. The subject of smoking was chosen to convey this point as it was something my fellow scholars and I would talk about in the designated smoking area between classes. Expand your mind before you innately and ignorantly attack me.

Second, many of you have stated that the rights of smokers have no right to interfere with those of non-smokers. This exactly proves my point. Non-smokers view thier rights superior to the rights of smokers. Yes, my rights should not interfere with yours, but your shouldn't interefere with mine. If smokers rights have no place interfering with the rights of non-smokers, then non-smokers rights have no place interfering with smoker rights. This country is based on equality, yet non-smokers think that smoker are not equal.

Third, all those who have attacked me on the premise of my age are being fallacious. So because you will die sooner and may have gone to college 20-30 yrs ago, you are so much wiser than my childish mind? Im am currently in school working on my degree in Psychology. Yes it is considered a medical field, so courtney, I am informed on the medical facts. Dont throw your major around like that, its entirely arrogant.

As a Jungian, I am after a much greater awareness. This article was designed to get people thinking and start being more proactive in legislation. Im not saying we should be able to smoke wherever we want. I agree I shouldn't put the health risks of smoking on you. It is however your choice where you choose to patronize. If the places you like want to allow smoking, then start a similar place for non-smokers. Not only are non-smokers happy that way, it has the potential to create more jobs.

Look at the bigger picture people, and only do so after temporarily losing your biases.

Groundhog, what gives you the right to make such bold statements and claims. Obviously, my article was good enough for publication. What do you have published? What is your college degree? If you can do better then by all means I challenge you to. Your are innatey arrogant, and your implication of my age based on "it sounds like a junior highschool paper" is all but cute. Is it so hard to imagine that a young man like myself might actually be educated and intelligent? Pull your head out of your ass.

Posted by IamWhatIam on 05/31/2009 at 9:52 PM

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