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Re: “Whale Wars' Captain Paul Watson talks about his 'clients' and combatants

Sinkem, perhaps YOU should know what you are talking about. Peter Bethune was indeed on the boat and indeed deliberately drove it into the Japanese vessel. It was not "dead in the water" and the videos on YouTube CLEARLY show that it was producing propulsion/a wake about 15 seconds prior to the collision.

He indeed WAS convicted and your stats on the Japanese judicial process are WAY off base. The Japanese go to great lengths to prevent abuse. They are some of the most passive police officers you will EVER meet.

He was sentenced to 5 years because that was the max they could get. They didn't make up any laws and they convicted him of laws that were valid (age does not invalidate a law or act of government...unless you are willing to forgo your civil rights in America just because they were written in the 1780s)

Yes, they broke some laws, but they aren't stupid. A more maneuverable vessel has the obligation to avoid less maneuverable vessels. To more easily demonstrate this concept, it also applies in the air: Hot air balloons have the ultimate right-of-way since their movements are dictated solely by airflow. Dirigibles (i.e. Hindenburg & Goodyear blimp) have the next right of way since they can somewhat control their movements, but not very rapidly. Lastly are other aircraft (prop planes, jets, helicopters, etc) since they can rapidly move in all directions. In the case of these boats, the Japanese vessel had the right of way and the other boat was obliged to move out of the way, not jump in front of them. The Japanese court rightly concluded that the other boat caused the damage. Just because they didn't sink it doesn't mean a conviction isn't warranted; they intentionally created a hazard on the high seas. They deserve the punishment they got.

If you ignore laws without regard for the consequences, don't be surprised when "the law" comes knocking. Martin Luther King and Ghandi both successfully got laws changed through nonviolent protest. They were convicted of crimes and served time. The difference between them and these kooks is that MLK and Ghandi NEVER claimed innocence (or distorted the facts/claimed that the ends justified the means/etc).

Minke Whales (the vast majority of the whales hunted by the Japanese) aren't even threatened at all and are doing fine. FAR more whales are killed annually by large ships running into them. In fact the number of whales killed by humans due to whaling vs those killed by other means is about 15% to 85%.

Oh, and species fitness CAN be improved by culling. Deer are at record highs across the US and are at population levels ABOVE what was present in the 1500s when westerners first arrived. Hunting thins the herds and allows for a more natural growth.

"It's a shame none of the stupid humans die before breeding these days." I see you haven't heard of the Darwin awards...

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Posted by LogicalThinker on 10/06/2010 at 10:59 AM

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