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      <![CDATA[c:  your responses continue to be less and less rational. You are either on mind numbing drugs or your brain is atrophying.
        
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      <![CDATA[smartestman, you are the one who is trying to put PERA employees on welfare. The employees only want the city to meet the obligations it entered into voluntarily with the employees.
        
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      <![CDATA[smartestman, I expect you to answer in exactly the way you always answer, which is exactly how you answered just now, by pretending you do not understand my brilliant argument, you cannot follow the flawless logic, you are not stumped for an intelligent reply, all the while denigrating everything I write.
        
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      <![CDATA[grief:  I suspect it would appear to someone that is intellectually inferior that someone else is intellectually lazy. The fact that one does not need work very hard in dealing with you does not make them lazy.
        
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      <![CDATA[Intellectually Lazy Man, we will indeed see what the judge has to say about contractual obligations. <br>
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"Just because someone is employed by the government does not give them an income for life."
        
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      <![CDATA[grief:  We'll see what the judge says re: "contract law". Just because someone is employed by the government does not give them an income for life.
        
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      <![CDATA[smartestman, when capitalist pigs engage in price gouging, you are all for it for the sake of the so-called "free market." When health care workers negotiate a fair and decent wage, you call it "exorbitant."
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 18:50:15 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA["Intellectually Lazy Man" understand that your "inclinations" are irrelevant in the realm of contract law.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 16:06:26 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[tiny:  I believe the yammering is coming from your side ma'am. The private sector already pays an exorbitant wage on your behalf.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 18 Sep 2012 13:02:00 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[For all of those folks who are yammering about PERA members not paying their fair share, let me remind you that they are compelled to contribute to PERA by their employers. It takes the place of Social Security.
        
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      <![CDATA[smartestman, your ignorance of the statutes governing plagiarism have been well established. You think it is okay for a conservative pundit to steal the intellectual property of others for profit, and to get it published under the Gazette's copyright without permission, which is not just an ethical violation, but a legal one.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 09:35:23 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[K:  purely for your edification:  when you make a statement using another's words without giving them credit, it is referred to as plagiarism. It is employed by lazy, incompetent cheaters that have no class nor original ideas (kind of like you and your buddy Ward Churchill.)
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 17 Sep 2012 07:08:34 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[smartestman, you why do you write, "it is my duty to expose the loony left..." when you know we are all onto your little game? Your self-appointed "duty" is to demoralize posters and neutralize discussions by bombarding us with meaningless but nasty phrases, like "looney left."
        
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      <![CDATA[Everyone worships the capitalist who manages to make a huge profit from his business contracts, but when Memorial Hospital employees manage to win a lucrative deal, suddenly they are leeches. Do you really think those benefits were just handed over to the employees because some administrator was feeling warm and fuzzy all over one day?<br>
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      <![CDATA[smartestman, your class, or lack thereof is showing. I was making a statement, not a movie review.
        
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    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Sep 2012 15:18:05 -0600</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[PERA is unnecessary. The employees make more than their private sector counterparts and expect the private sector to pay for their retirement.
        
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      <![CDATA[ILM, FYI, the bill that I am opposing was enacted by "the looney left," as you put it, mostly Democratic members of the Colorado Legislature. You truly have no knowledge of this public policy issue.
        
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      <![CDATA[grief and K found each other. That IS special.
        
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      <![CDATA[Algernon Moncrief, congratulations! When smartestman becomes abusive it  is a sure sign that he cannot cope with your intelligent arguments.
        
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      <![CDATA["Intellectually Lazy Man" if you have not read the content of my posts how is it possible for you to intelligently comment on the content of the posts? Has that occurred to you?
        
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      <![CDATA[grief:  who the hell would want to read your whiny propaganda? You do not honestly (honesty - there is a difficult concept for you) believe people read the crap you put out.
        
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      <![CDATA["Intellectually Lazy Man" - your latest comment is yet further evidence of the depth of your cluelessness. I am hardly a "spokesperson" for PERA.
        
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      <![CDATA[grief:  About all I can say is, if you are the best PERA can offer as a spokesperson, they don't have a chance. <br>
        
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      <![CDATA["Intellectually Lazy Man": SOCIAL SECURITY IS NOT A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OF THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT. FULLY-VESTED PERA RETIREE BENEFITS ARE A CONTRACTUAL OBLIGATION OF COLORADO PERA AND PERA-AFFILAITED EMPLOYERS.
        
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      <![CDATA[K:  once again, an utterly nonsensical post.
        
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    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2012 07:18:36 -0600</pubDate>
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