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      <![CDATA[Utilities here, in Colorado Springs are less expensive then anywhere else I have lived. I do not want that to change.<br>
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I do not like the way Mayor Bach is trying to sell off the cities properties.
        
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      <![CDATA[Rose said:  "I watched a You Tube video of one of Bach's first speeches he gave as mayor. He was talking about the financial challenges the city was facing and said he would not go after the city enterprises."<br>
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That's precisely the sort of lies they spew when running for office, and it usually means they will do the opposite.
        
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      <![CDATA[By the way, TejonTech, thank you for the warm introduction to Rose. I am sure she could never have figured out for herself exactly how nasty I am just from reading my posts--but there I go again!
        
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      <![CDATA[TejonTech, you write, "saying it doesn't make it so." Now see if you can follow this: what you wrote does not prove what I said is not so.<br>
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My posts, on the other hand, have proved what you said is wrong.
        
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      <![CDATA[Tejon Tech, that may be, but I am fully aware of your snarky, ultra conservative, know it all attitude. You need to learn to play nice with others and try to be a little humble.
        
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      <![CDATA[Rose...you obviously don't know about the aggressively liberal and nasty piece of work Mr K.
        
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      <![CDATA[Tejon Tech, you may be a top commentor but it is probably because you have a lot of comments that do not necessarily contain accurate or relevant information. It seems that  your comments make you feel improtant.
        
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      <![CDATA[Like With Obama Kman, saying it doesn't make it so
        
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      <![CDATA[Sorry, TejonTech, but I hardly ever notice the likes and dislikes, and I never vote on them. It hardly matters how many likes or dislikes you or I get on this particular discussion, because this is a matter of science, not opinion, and the truth will not be established by a popularity contest.
        
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      <![CDATA[I just did some trace backs on IP addresses used here, and Mr. k seems to carrying on a conversation with himself. Yikes...you are too smart by half Kman, voting on your own posts.
        
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      <![CDATA[Actually, TejonTech, your point was thoroughly disproved, you are welcome. It is blatantly apparent you do not have even the most rudimentary knowledge required to understand my explanations.
        
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      <![CDATA[I watched a You Tube video of one of Bach's first speeches he gave as mayor. He was talking about the financial challenges the city was facing and said he would not go after the city enterprises.
        
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      <![CDATA[My point proven...thanks...electricity can be shared, delivered, and meters...the exact logistics a simple computer program from solution.
        
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      <![CDATA[If the plants close, what will replace them? Coal is a cheaper commodity than natural gas in the long run.
        
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      <![CDATA[TejonTech, that is a perfect example of a specious argument. You are making it up as you go along, aren't you?<br>
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There are no companies in the national grid that do not own their own plant in the field--that is, the wires and transformers that deliver the electricity from the generating plant right up to the meter at your house.
        
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      <![CDATA[It is a matter of contribution into the grid and usage reflected on the meter...their is a national grid that works just this way with contribution from several sources and measured at the point of use.
        
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      <![CDATA[I agree with old crank, it is very fishy. Ever since Bach was elected, there seems to be a lot of secret interactions and manipulative behavior.
        
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      <![CDATA[On the contrary, TejonTech, the clumsy way you try to dodge the question proves you are the one who does not know what you are talking about. As it happens, I do know the answer to my question, but I was wondering if you knew, since you assume an air of authority, which you have neither earned nor demonstrated, and presume to question my understanding of the power grid.<br>
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The answer, of course, is that it is physically impossible for two or more companies to share the same circuits and at the same time direct the power each one generates to specific customers.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is all about Bach and the puppeteers aka developer buddes who use him as their talking head so that they deploy their underhanded tactics for their financial benefit. Tejon Tech said that Excel (one L not two) will gladly provide electricity to Colorado Springs, but at what cost?
        
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      <![CDATA[If you can't figure that simple issue out off the top of your head, it proves my point that you don't know what you are talking about.
        
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      <![CDATA[I don't understand the grid! What are your credentials, TejonTech?<br>
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Since you are the expert please explain how your electric meter will accept only electrons coming from Company A, while rejecting all electrons generated by Company B, given that both companies are connected to the very same wires?
        
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      <![CDATA[You obviously don't understand the grid...please stay away from plugs, they might cause your demise.
        
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      <![CDATA[Why stop at two? Why not let anyone build a power plant and "have access to the city wires?"
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 16:36:55 -0700</pubDate>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: UPDATE: Sierra Club cites study in bid to close Drake]]></title>

    
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    <author><![CDATA[TejonTech]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[The thing is sea...close it, sell off the rest, and endow the city for things we want...Excell will gladly provide electricity. Heck let two companies build power plants, have access to the city wires...and compete for our business.
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 15:55:52 -0700</pubDate>
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    <title><![CDATA[Re: UPDATE: Sierra Club cites study in bid to close Drake]]></title>

    
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      <![CDATA[The Sierra Club determining whether it is economically  feasible to continue operating a coal fired power plant? Isn't that like a starving lion deciding if its next meal is an endangered species?
        
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          <a href="http://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/Profile?oid=2581894">Robert Troelsch</a>]]>
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    <pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2012 12:22:41 -0700</pubDate>
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