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      <title>Comments On: Bach: No outside review of Waldo fire needed
    
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    <author><![CDATA[TejonTech]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[The mayor is covering is own intervening in the decision making process in matters like turning off electricity and shutting off water when he was advised not to.<br>
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Then there is the scandal of the $1,000,000 that was donated and not distributed, but sucked up into the salaries of ESM and Care & Share administrators.
        
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    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 08:13:01 -0700</pubDate>
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    <author><![CDATA[God]]></author>
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      <![CDATA[So, this is a Bend-Over Boys Club! One lies and the other swears to it.
        
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    <pubDate>Sun, 23 Dec 2012 06:24:48 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Mayor Bach, being fiscally conservative, is opposed to a 3rd-party analysis because it would cost the taxpayers as much as $300,000. Is there sufficient value to be obtained from this expenditure of time, effort, and money?
        
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      <![CDATA[Helene's comment is a personal attack. The stated policy of the Indy is to remove personal attacks.
        
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      <![CDATA[We need to have everything that Bach is involved with reviewed. He is a deceitful, lying, manipulative, dishonest and untrustworthy person.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 19:57:40 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[An honest person invites outside reviews to both prove and improve himself.<br>
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This is very disappointing and proves there is something to hide...
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:41:34 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[On the "Misfire" article comments, firefighter D.M. NorCalFF said there should be a third-party investigation due to the fatality incident. An outside investigation into this one aspect of the fire may be warranted because, apparently, the problem with an internal investigation is that the participants involved are "covering their asses".
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 16:32:56 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Curious, here are two people from our "Misfire" story, talking about why an impartial analysis is important:<br>
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Darrell Schulte, fire behavior and planning instructor: "I would think that an 'outside' opinion of the way the fire was handled would be valuable to the entities, because it would most likely be less biased by internal politics, etc." <br>
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Gordon Routley, a former fire chief and consultant who's investigated high-profile fatal fires: In an internal review, "Everybody is looking to cover their ass."<br>
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As I wrote in response to another commenter yesterday, the city thus far — as evidenced in its Initial After Action Report, and in its refusal to answer questions — has done little to indicate that its own analysis is going to be thorough. Compare its IAAR assessment of "public safety response" and "planning" — both termed "major strengths" — to the reports from the firefighters on the ground, and you see some pretty striking disharmony.<br>
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As for mistrust in government, newspapers exist in large part to ensure that governmental leaders act honestly, and are answerable to their constituents.
        
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    <pubDate>Fri, 14 Dec 2012 13:54:48 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Mayor Bach says no outside review of the Waldo wildfire is needed, and I agree. Why is that the Indy thinks the Waldo catastrophe needs an "impartial" study conducted by outsiders?
        
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