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      <![CDATA[TejonTech, unemployment insurance is also a contract paid for by workers and employers much like social security. You cannot collect unemployment benefits if you have not been working for at least one year before losing your job, or if you quit your last job voluntarily, or if you were fired with cause.<br>
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Obamacare is not such a contract.
        
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    <pubDate>Wed, 13 Feb 2013 10:56:20 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[After telling siggie over 90% of panhandlers are truly ill and disabled, he gloats over their inability to learn "self-respect, self-control and self-reliance." The problem with most of these people is not too many drugs, but too few, that is, not taking their prescribed meds.
        
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      <![CDATA[Rosie:  notwithstanding the fact that I originally posted about panhandlers, which by the way was the gist of the article, you seemed intent on generalizing to anyone and everyone that has ever been homeless in a failed attempt to make your point. Here's the deal Rosie, if you can teach one panhandler self-respect, self-control and self-reliance I'll give him/her a dollar next time I see them.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well Rosie my dear, it seems that you take yourself much too seriously. <br>
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Since I didn't read your post until this morning, I missed that "nice evening" you, oh so sincerely, wished for me.  Passive/aggressive comes to mind.
        
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      <![CDATA[This is what I have been talking about...
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 22:19:41 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Sigfried, you seem to be suffering from dementia or some other cognitive impairment. I never said to give them money to purchase drugs or alcohol.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 21:40:12 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[We all paid for social security and Medicare...so that is a contract.<br>
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Obamacare and unemployment are personal problems, not an obligation for the rest of us
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 20:26:15 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[I guess that would depend on how you define "afford". We are now over 16 1/2 trillion dollars in debt.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:30:13 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[The "system" is overwhelmed by unfunded warfare. Even so, we can afford to house and care for the ill and disabled, and maintain unemployment benefits, social security, medicare, and obamacare as well.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 17:21:03 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Sig...pointing out the curse is better than cursing I suppose
        
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      <![CDATA[Gee Dr. K, what a profound statement. Given your prognosis, are you  then agreeing with Miz Rosie that we should give them money to purchase drugs and alcohol?
        
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      <![CDATA[They need to then, if really sick, be in a home care situation and not on the streets...we could easily afford this if the lazy out of work would get off the unemployment dole and get a job, if those who are not really disabled would get off those rolls.<br>
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We have system to care for people if it were not overwhelmed from those taking unfair advantage of it.
        
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    <pubDate>Tue, 12 Feb 2013 12:19:42 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Over 90% of panhandlers suffer from debilitating mental and/or physical illnesses.
        
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      <![CDATA[Sigfried, <br>
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I am not angry because you had a hissy fit about the comments I made regarding Bach. I find it very amusing that you and your buddy,  publisher,  feel that you are so superior to everyone else.
        
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      <![CDATA[Well Rosie gal, there is that "hissy fit" again. You must be intimately familiar with the term and its application.<br>
To paraphrase a recent quacker quote --- if it looks like a drunken or drug-addled bum, and it smells like a drunken or drug-addled bum, and it acts like a drunken or drug-addled bum then it is very likely a ___________________________.<br>
(Please fill in the blank as your bleeding heart allows.)<br>
You're still mad because I nailed you on the Bach comments.
        
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    <pubDate>Mon, 11 Feb 2013 09:30:38 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Siggie, <br>
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How do you know that every pan handler is a drunken, drug addicted bum? Where are you facts or are they just assumptions?
        
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      <![CDATA[Audrey:  If your citizen complaint was written like your post (Nazi Mayor wasn't partisan at all, was it?), it likely wasn't taken seriously.
        
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      <![CDATA[I agree with the mayor...these dead beats are making our downtown a difficult place to visit, and that hurts businesses which employ people who understand they need to take care of themselves rather expect others to take care them.<br>
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If we continue to organize ourselves around depravation instead of success, we will all suffer.<br>
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But let's not throw our trust on wacko courts...just admonish anyone you see feeding the wildlife, and the panhandlers will finally be forced to go elsewhere.<br>
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Although in the end we still have the misguided catholic charities magnet that needs to divide and distribute their services around instead of concentrating them right in the heart of downtown.
        
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    <pubDate>Sat, 09 Feb 2013 11:42:17 -0700</pubDate>
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      <![CDATA[Don't much care for pan-handling, but then again, I don't much care for our Nazi Mayor and his ways...Hey Bach! When are you gonna respond to my citizen complaint?
        
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      <![CDATA[Who, in their right mind, would give money to a drunken, drug-addled bum so they can drink some more and do more drugs? How does this make any sense, no matter how much your bleeding heart aches.<br>
I still maintain the law should be against the idiotic people giving money to the bums.
        
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      <![CDATA[The panhandlers are scammers...their tax free income would probably stun us all.
        
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      <![CDATA[Maybe if the doofus mayor has spent the money he used for the downtown spy cameras to instead pay for overtime for cops to do foot patrols downtown, he wouldn't be whining about how much it would cost. Just sayin'
        
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      <![CDATA[Robo Steve strikes again. I wonder how much money the city wasted pursuing this?
        
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