Not that it matters one way or another but I have never replied to any topic on the Indi prior to this one ONLY because I happened to be there that night & because of over hearing what these people ordered did I put the two together.
For guys wearing flip flops & shorts to a well established restaurant it was like they were on vacation!
First off YES it's only appropriate to have the founders photo in the lobby, that's no different then having a deceased relatives photo on your wall. I did not hear nor see anything along the lines of a "fetching" action from the bartender nor did I hear anyone make a "fish milkshake" comment. Perhaps I was just enjoying the ambiance & my dinner once again, I did not really focus on anything else other then while I was waiting between courses. Besides if they disliked the Sunbird SO much why go back for Brunch?! Or was it Brunch then back for dinner?
Side Note: I have been to 2 weddings there & they were beautiful, fun & I would recomend it!
I find this review to be extremely arrogant & with blatant disrespect to the Sunbird as if the "critic" was trying to get back at someone on a VERY childish & inappropriate level using the Independent & Sunbird as their personal choice of weapons. The restaurant may be a little out of date but that's the beauty of it. Having done my research after eating here it turns out the Swordfish that was rudely cut down has ben added to other Specialty Restaurants Corporations menus proving I would not take what this individual has said to heart, try it for yourself & don't be a follower of some tacky verbal barrage!
We tried Sunbird 6 years ago, never went back.
$28 for a chewy sirloin strip steak and $33 for a bottle of K-J Chard taught us to never go back to that clip joint. They clip you real good for the view up on the hill, but it's all downhill from there. Those were prices in 2006. Today, Sunbird charges $38/bottle for K-J Chard, which is outrageous, the clip job continues.
I can get K-J Chard at Costco for $11. Even today, I rarely see K-J Chard over $29/bottle in eateries.
For a lot less money I can go to Saltgrass to get a great steak that's always tender, is cooked to order, with excellent side dishes and where we receive professional service. Saltgrass (and the new Bonefish Grill) manage to pull off one of the most difficult tasks of any upscale eatery chain which uses fresh ingredients, and that is to maintain consistently high performance, standards and customer satisfaction.
We've enjoyed Saltgrass scores of times and will continue to do so, relegating Sunbird to the no-no list.
This was once one of our favorite restaurants in CS. Our *last* time there, the service and overall experience was about as described.
I couldn't agree more with the previous comment. I've witnessed firsthand the Layton family in action and they are truly one of a kind.
This is so wonderful. Bill, you and Sally have done so much for the community. Nice to see you getting the kudos you so long deserve. We are proud to call you friend and neighbor - Lorrie & Ty
Great food, but last time we went, it took over an hour to get our entree, by which time we were full and couldn't eat it. We very politely tried to tell the manager about the delay; his response was that we could just take the food home with us. Then he tried to blame our server, even though we indicated that the server had been great. After this wholly insufficient response to our unhappy customer experience, we will not be back anytime soon.
At least they actually HAD guacamole when you went. When I tried it they had no chips or guacamole. You're dead on about the horchata, that stuff was bad - gritty, even.
I don't know when you wrote this but perhaps you should have had a big ole cup of shut the f*ck up about the fire. just sayin.
Try Taste of India...terrific for all the taste bud stimulus this place fails to meet.
Thanks for saving me the trip
Ha ha Beamed ceiling! I heard people call it "Hogan's" as well. It is built in the style of a hogan. Google it.
Communicating with customers!? What a concept! Nothing gets by you brainiacs does it? Brining chicken!? Wow again. Never heard of that! (That was sarcasm) Broasting and pressure cooking are two different things by the way.
great review - on target, would it kill them to marinate some meat!
i don't think we were charged for chips and salsa. i would have remembered that. i do think it's DUMB! that they charge and really dumb that the waitress told you it was to pay for the rennovation. i remember our host was a kid who seemed like he didn't know what he was doing. otherwise, not memorable.
We had eaten for years at Jorges in Pueblo. It was decent. Not terrific, but decent.
Three years ago we walked in after having not been there for for a bit, and were surprised to be charged for salsa and chips. Which goes straight to the first line of the Independent Review. I knew right then something was wrong. Changing. I noted the food in Pueblo was changing at the same time. They always had top shelf beans. Something was changing, and not for the good with the beans. Salsa was getting watery. Plates that used to be satisfying were trending towards mediocre.
We then ate at the Jorge's in Colorado Springs before the rennovation. Wheels off horrible. Everything about it was just gradations worse than Pueblo. Tried it a second time in the springs to give them a chance, a few months later. Nawp. Just as bad. Actually worse because it was disappointing to see them "not getting it". Pueblo continued to go down hill too. We stopped going, after years. We stopped going after the last time when the service was botched, plates were just plain bad, and we were overcharged for To Go desserts. It was a downright bad meal, that last time. I was so fed up by this time, I wrote an email to the owners of Jorges saying we had been long time customers but the last meal was a disaster and we were not just disappointed, we were upset that we had to argue for service for a very poor meal. I never heard back. That ladies and gents is BAD FORM for a business to execute in very poor fashion to a long time customer and then not respond.
Sooooooo, now this review for the apres rennovation in Colorado Springs. Am I surprised? No. I saw this coming three years ago, the changes, the cutting corners, the dwindling service, the mediocre to bad plates. It would do no good to pick apart individual dishes because prior posters have pretty much nailed it. Forget calling it Mexican. When you have been relegated to not even being decent for TexMex, you have fallen very, very far. And Jorge's has fallen very far.
I admit I was really put out when I never received a response to a compassionate, caring customer. So after reading this review which I can only corroborate from many years of experience and then the last 3+ years of tailspin experience, well... we had a birthday dinner a week ago for a long time and very well known resident of the West Side. When we threw out where to go on the West Side to solicit a West Side restaurant, it was rather interesting to hear the group consensus virtually simultaneously say where they didn't want to go first... 'no' to Jorges.
That says something when a group of long time West Siders who want to support west side businesses refuse in that manner. You have got to be doing something very wrong. And Jorges is. I am not ever happy to see poor reviews much less give them. Especially for something that we had participated in for so long. Hence the too long review here. But the Independent review is spot on. Born out by our experience over the last three years at both restaurants. This is not a mediocre dining experience. It is downright bad. How they could have fallen so far is beyond me after being reasonably good for years. Youth? Inexperience? Growth and greed... oh yeah, the prices are NOT in line, not even close, for the food? Way overpriced.
The short of it is finally, I would not take my family there and as it turns out, we didn't for an important birthday celebration. I would like to find something redeeming, just like the reviewer for the Independent, but the review could almost be word for word how dismal Jorges has become. Because the fall from grace has been so far, I am not sure what if anything would get me to go back to Jorges again. And trust me... we gave them multiple opportunities to return to grace.
I'm so happy you told the honest truth. I will not go back to that noisy crap shute. My husband was sick for a week. It took an HOUR to get our check (the manager had to find our server and did not even apologize). Our plates were bland and tasted like old, cheap, re-heated cheese. Because that was what coated everything. I vote for Amanda's Fonda and Salsa Brava.
No offense Christina but I spend a lot of time in ABQ and I find the food pretty weak.
Mexican in ABQ is mostly New Mexican and is very similar from place to place. I have had little luck getting high end food in ABQ/Rio Rancho area. Of course COS you really need to know where to go also.
I agree some ratings especially on the MX restaurants here are lousy. I think you have to go to a hole in the wall say off of Platte to find closer to the real thing. La Carreta usually fits that bill although they can have an off day and I have not been there i a while.
How Muldoon's is up there shows folks don't know what good food is.
I was going to open a restaurant in this town but I think it would have to be in the Broadmoor area. A lot of folks either don't want to pay for good food or don't know what it is. That includes service, too. Getting my salad with my entree makes me want to go ballistic but I guess some folks are okay with that.
Christina - Jose Muldoon's is generally rated among the tops in the "Best of" reports. Given the general cardboard with enchilada sauce served there, that gives you an idea of the 'judgement of the population'. Colorado in general is very disappointing relative to good Mexican whether it be Tex-Mex, southwestern or old Mexico and COS is at the bottom of that list. There are a few that are okay, but none stand out.
If you order a plate with multiple tacos or enchiladas, and ask for different meats in them, they charge you extra ($1 per different meat.) This is the only restaurant I've ever seen this practice - most places are happy to let you have one chicken taco and one beef, at no extra charge.
Your review is spot on; I totally relate to your statement, "To the apparently satisfied 89 percent of Urbanspooners — I'm speechless." When I lived in Albuquerque, I relied heavily on Urbanspoon ratings to choose new locally-owned restaurants to try, and the ratings were generally accurate. When I relocated to Colorado Springs about three years ago, however, I realized that the local Urbanspoon ratings don't seem to hold any water. When many of the top-rated places are chain restaurants, you have to question the general culinary judgment of the population.
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