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Comment Archives: stories: Columns: Between The Lines

Re: “Manitou's deep marijuana divide

I've lived in the Pikes Peak region for 39 years, most of that a homeowner in Manitou. Manitou bleeds its economic strength to Colorado Springs, meaning I can't buy a new car or tire in Manitou. All of those sales go to Colorado Springs, I can't buy a board of wood or a screw for my home in Manitou, I can't buy a computer...stereo....TV....washing machine.....Cell phone...Men's suit.....a pair of shoes or sneakers.......NADA. I can't even buy a new bicycle in Manitou - all of those sales tax dollars get bled off to Colorado Springs. Well the retail Marijuana store can reverse that trend with a $100,000 / month contribution to our city's sales tax coffers. That is humongous folks an absolute huge percentage of the city budget to come from ONE STORE !!! That's $1.2 million/year to the city from one trouble-free store. Our city budget is only $12-13 million per year and this harmless industry can help our town a lot. It's time to stop the inaccurate fear mongering and look at the economic FACTS ! PROVEN ACCURATE FACTS !

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Posted by Rick Laurenzi on 10/26/2014 at 6:14 PM

Re: “Manitou's deep marijuana divide

Yep. Justin Armour just lost all of my money. I'll never eat there again.

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Posted by franksinatra on 10/26/2014 at 5:47 PM

Re: “Manitou's deep marijuana divide

Those opposing 2G are numerous and determined as well and are voting.
The fear based campaign against retail MJ sales has failed to win many new recruits. None of their fears have come true. In fact their prime assertion "Manitou has made huge improvements the past decade .... This will reverse if families choose not to visit the area because of retail marijuana..." is the exact opposite of what has happened. August and September were record breaking months for tourism, crime has been reduced, business revenues are up, sales tax revenues are at record breaking levels (even without counting MJ taxes). The only problem we might have is a parking problem since so many people want to come to our interesting diverse alive community. Manitou is moving forward rather than retreating to the failed policies of the last century.

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Posted by Alan Delwiche on 10/24/2014 at 4:23 PM

Re: “Manitou's deep marijuana divide

boycott these intolerant people's business's like the Crystal Park Cantina

keep Manitou weird!

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Posted by happyfew on 10/24/2014 at 3:12 PM

Re: “Manitou's deep marijuana divide

Vote no on 2G. Simply because the people against recreational marijuana are using manipulative techniques. Kari Kilroy should resign from her County Board position for using KKTV because she is personally involved in the ballot issue. Kilroy and Dr. Ken Linn fabricated a concern claiming an increase of student use at Manitou High School. Do not be manipulated by the big money of the Republican party that is running 'don't go to pot' campaigns in several States with marijuana ballot issues.

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Posted by TruB on 10/24/2014 at 2:23 PM

Re: “From the outside, looking in

Dare I mention that the town clerk retired on May 30th and the town office has been staffed for a few hours each Monday morning since then? Good luck to anyone who might need to transact town business.

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Posted by John Morgan on 07/31/2014 at 1:16 PM

Re: “From the outside, looking in

With Mayor Worthey's re-election, the long-time public works director and several part-time public works employees resigned; the long-time town clerk and her long-time assistant retired; two town trustees resigned; two planning commissioners resigned; the former town police chief (who had resigned) was rehired. The new town hall was financed through a grant obtained by the previous town council. Mayor Worthey nearly didn't sign the agreement with the town hall contractor at the last meeting of the previous town council until the majority of that council declared they would legally act without her participation.

Mayor Bach could learn a few things from the GMF mayor.

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Posted by John Morgan on 07/30/2014 at 8:55 PM

Re: “From the outside, looking in

"Let's not put all our chickens in one basket."

Moreover, let's not wait until the eggs come home to roost.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/30/2014 at 5:40 PM

Re: “From the outside, looking in

We need ONE government for all of El Paso County, not the busload we now have.
We need ONE school board for all of El Paso County, not the 15-20 we now have.
We need ONE tax rate for all of El Paso County, not the mishmash we now have.
Am I the only one tired of PAYING for all the duplications and byzantine schemings?

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Posted by OldCrank on 07/30/2014 at 5:02 PM

Re: “Budget cuts hit Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station

So, you didn't get to see the lake(s)? I mention Cheyenne Mountain Air Force Station in Strike Three, my post-apocalyptic novel, and I am curious...

Posted by Joy V. Smith on 07/08/2014 at 9:33 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

Simply put the Sheriff wrote on his website that parents are wholly responsible for their children in the real world. He asks, then tells why CJC is overcrowded. Overcrowded due to lack of parental responsibility here in El Paso County. Trouble in the teen years that is not corrected is a downward spiral in adulthood. Then he wrote about citizen's Rights under The Second Amendment. He supports our Rights and that was his "big mistake". The Indy then does all it can to smear him (that is, as long as it doesn't take print space away from the all-important marijuana pages. In my many years I have seen the children of marijuana users and the results). The Sheriff also spoke out about the absurdity of parents who refuse to have their children be protected by firearms ( http://www.epcsheriff.com/school-safety-co… )
One commenter even has alluded to suspicion of involvement in a murder.
In short: The Indy advocates and promotes drug use, cries for bans on weapons Rights then laments a perception of "public safety" being jeopardized because of what some allege the Sheriff is doing wrong. The Sheriff is not at fault for all your problems folks... Look in your mirror.

And Ralph, can you lose the insipid, arcane and erroneous "Wild West" scenarios that so many embrace as THE bad example? Colorado Springs was not even remotely connected to the settling of the West. There is no Old West history here other than this is where Tuberculosis patients ("lungers") traveled to try and get well or die trying. They could barely stand let alone stand in the street for a Hollywood style bullshit "gunfight".

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 06/20/2014 at 7:07 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

http://www.change.org/petitions/sheriff-ma… I know that this means nothing the Maketa but I want it on record that we the people asked for him to step down while the investigation was going on in the interest of public safety.

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Posted by Lorena Townsend on 06/11/2014 at 4:14 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

Eh, yer kidding right? Suthers? Old win at all costs, fuck the rules, John the Koch 'ho Suthers?

Suthers is just cleverer at slinking about in the shadows then "bang the help" Terry, he's smart enough to not leave any thing more then a trail of slime that you can only see when the light hits it right.

Suthers, yeah, that's the ticket......twit!

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Posted by Boomer49 on 06/10/2014 at 1:02 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

BREAKING NEWS - Travel documents show El Paso County Sheriff Terry Maketa spent thousands of dollars of public money to travel to law enforcement conferences with female subordinates with whom he is accused of having sexual affairs.

The Colorado Springs Gazette reports records show trips to Nevada and Florida, to Breckenridge, Colorado, and elsewhere with the female employees.

Maketa traveled at least 17 times with the female employees. The records show 14 of the trips cost a total of more than $10,000.

Colorado prisons director Tom Clements was killed during the most recent trip, in March 2013. Travel documents show Maketa stayed in Las Vegas for three more days.

Maketa has apologized to employees but says he will not resign. He is accused of discrimination, budget improprieties and a hostile work environment.

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Posted by guruD on 06/10/2014 at 12:58 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

Forget resignation and recall. We are past that. Its jail time for the shirtless sheriff.

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Posted by Ben Freedom on 06/10/2014 at 12:39 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

Forget about the dalliances with his female staff, I'm more interested in knowing if the sheriff office finances have been misappropriated.

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Posted by CSIndyReader on 06/06/2014 at 8:03 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

TejonTech, seems to me you--and Maketa, too, for that matter--are continually trying to "bring down" President Obama, which "is really not a very nice attitude" to adopt "about a fellow human being."

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 06/04/2014 at 9:58 PM

Re: “How to bring down Maketa

I'm not sure how I feel about this article. On one hand it would be good to just see him gone, on the other if he can just walk away from this it will be back to business as usual in the corrupt Republican dominate local government. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure that Suthers could also ultimately prosecute Maketa for violation of state laws, so perhaps a private conversation isn't in all of our self interests. #arrestterrymaketa

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Posted by Corey Wilson on 06/04/2014 at 9:57 PM

Re: “Surprise on an empty plane

Nice story

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Posted by gregR on 04/30/2014 at 7:35 AM

Re: “A farewell — unless he changes his mind

Our family has bonded over reading out loud many things written by Mr. Tosches. He will be missed. Thank you, Independent, for supporting a fine writing talent and for letting us know that you didn't fire him!

Posted by Nancy Masterson Reinking on 04/18/2014 at 10:31 AM

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