Friday, May 24, 2013
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Re: “Magpul's next move”
Mr. Tosches,
I had the recent opportunity to read your editorial of 2/24 (Go ahead, Magpul. Move. Wyoming seems nice.) and would like to take the time to educate you regarding your description of firearms, their applications, and the people who own them. Please allow me to educate you:
You refer to the Pmag as a “clip”. Now, I understand you have no worldly knowledge of firearms but a clip holds ammunition, a magazine feeds ammunition. If you’re going to criticize something, your credibility hinges on understanding the purpose and operation of the item you are criticizing.
Furthermore, you refer to an AR-15 as an assault rifle. An assault rifle is semi-automatic, not fully automatic (which have been heavily regulated, registered, and relegated to the rich since the 1934 NFA). Please refer to my above comment about credibility. To emphasize the point and use one of your stale Todd Helton jokes; you have the credibility of Todd Helton at a DUI checkpoint.
In Missouri (I am a former resident of California and Colorado), we will gladly accept a company like Magpul. These companies not only supply us rednecks with firearms and accessories but to the law enforcement your “pro-victim” mentality relies on. We will gladly take the $86 million and more than 200 jobs you don’t want (you forgot the approximately 600 contractors employed by Magpul).
At this point in your article, I have to ask, do you always use humor to cover up your ignorance? Seriously, I can’t wade through the Todd Helton jokes to find out what your point is- or isn’t, or even if there is a point?
Naturally, you stand on the graves of these victims and invoke Aurora and Columbine to advance your fear-based worldview. May I remind you Columbine occurred during a nationwide magazine capacity ban. Eric Harris used a 10 round magazine (e.g. restricted capacity) and both him and Klebold used shotguns that were in excess of 40 years old to perform the majority of their killing spree. Also, your so-called assault weapons account for less than 1/3 of total spree killings (142) in the last 31 years. Furthermore, you’re more likely to be beaten to death by a club or bat than a rifle- not just an assault rifle, but a rifle in general. You can refer to the FBI Uniform Crime Stats for reference to these numbers.
At this point in your article, I can’t help but laugh. You make it seem like a gun owner is an angry, toothless redneck incapable of complex thought. While that may seem appetizing to those with your ignorant and uneducated perspective, I would like to point out I graduated from Stanford with a degree in Geological and Environmental Sciences. Why do you see fit to discriminate and have such incredible prejudice towards me because I own guns?
Beside the point, have the cops been called to that pizza parlor for threatening behavior, brandishing, or disorderly conduct? Have there been shootings and robberies in that store because of all of the evil guns? I would venture to say no, because it is not the action of the weapon that commits the crime, but the individual pressing the trigger. If you wish to hold your standards the same, why do you blame Todd Helton for his drinking problem when you should blame the car or the alcohol he consumed. It would fall right in line with your pro-victim mentality.
We do agree on one thing though. Joe Biden is not the brightest bulb on the Christmas tree. After all, he just advocated for the primary weapon used at Columbine as the primary weapon for home defense.
How’s that for moral and rational consistency?
I know I’ve been rough on you in critiquing your editorial but I hope you find this an education to your lack of knowledge and irrational fear of firearms.
If not, don’t let the door hit you in the a$$
Kind Regards,
Tom Stilson
- See more at: http://conservativeanimal.com/tom-stilson-…
Posted by
Tom Stilson
on 03/03/2013 at 11:56 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Well, heck fire, I mites well join in on this here postin blog, an bein frum Arkansas I reckon I can fit in with tosches targitit awdeeyanse. You pritty much hit the nale on the hed, ceppin I aint got got no cats. I do have dogs, bout 15 I reckon. Plus 4 feral hogs I keep pinned up fer eatin.
So Tosches, that about sum up your sterotyping? I used to enjoy your obvious Dave Barry copycat articles, but this is about as funny as dental work sans anesthesia. You and your ilk care nothing about gun control, just people control.
So, now you have exercised your "right" to bloviate senselessly. You have used your "right" to annoy people, who in turn will exercise their right to no longer read your tripe. Apparently, you think "rights" are only applicable to what you believe. Sadly, apparently half of the population feels the same.
Posted by
Sellars
on 03/03/2013 at 7:35 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
College degree, Wonderful smile, 400K home, Zero cats, NRA sticker on my pick up. I'm glad this article wasn't aimed towards a responsible gun owner like me. I'm glad I moved out of Colorado, the next legislation bill is going to change the states name to Colofornia.
Posted by
John G
on 03/03/2013 at 7:34 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
How convenient that the writer mentions Columbine, but forgets that like the other school shootings of the 1990s, they all occurred during the 1994 AWB, so obviously that piece of feel good legislation worked.
3,000 people died on 9/11 as a result of evil men boxcutters. The largest single school massacre in US history occurred in 1926, in Bath, MI by an evil man without a single firearm used. The largest mass murder in NYC prior to 9/11 was conducted with less than a dollar of gasoline by a person with evil in his heart. Obviously guns are the problem...
Funny how those on the left always think they know better than everyone else, yet never fail to open their mouths and prove their ignorance. Yet they'll call everyone else cavemen for not agreeing with them.
I'll leave the personal insults up to the author, as evidence of the "tolerant" left...
Posted by
James McMillan
on 03/02/2013 at 9:06 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
rfk64 - it would appear, in your self-satisfied state of euphoria brought on by your 'progressive enlightenment', you fail completely in reading comprehension. I have scanned most of the posts re little richie and find only "worststoryever" to mention anything about money. Not sure what that would lend to the argument anyway. My guess is, if indeed Toshes has some wealth, it was either inherited or procured through the lottery. He has shown no special ability to have earned it himself.
As to "trusting" you at your word, highly unlikely.
Posted by
siggie
on 03/01/2013 at 6:16 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Right from the start you lose the argument. If you have to demean those whose position is opposed to yours in order to set up your talking points, you automatically create the perception that the argument is too weak to stand on its own merits.
Of course you can argue that you were just using "humor" to make your point. Here is a tip for you. Humor is generally regarded as being, you know, FUNNY. You might want to keep that in mind.
The only proposed law running frantically through the panic driven Colorado Legislature that could possibly have any effect on future shootings is the bill requiring mental health care providers to inform the authorities if they believe a patient is a possible danger to the public. That certainly could have prevented the Aurora theater shooting. The rest of it is just feelgood foolishness that will do nothing to the criminal and mentally ill segments of society. But they aren't the ones your afraid of, are they?
Posted by
Richard M. Shirley
on 03/01/2013 at 6:15 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Thank you Rich. There's nothing more satisfying than annoying a bunch of trigger-happy crackers. Yes, we enlightened progressives ARE intolerant of the continued availability of high-power devices and multiple-round magazines whose sole purpose is to destroy. And the proposed gun-control laws will not stop all of the mass killings. But just as speed limits reduce but don't eliminate deaths on the highways the gun laws MAY help to control the slaughter. When the city posted a 25 MPH speed limit in my neighborhood that caused a significant drop in fatalities at a blind corner, I didn't see outraged comments like "I have a PhD in Quantum Mechanics with a 7-figure stock portfolio and I have the God-given right to take that curve at 80 MPH as a law-abiding car owner". And, no, I don’t think many of you have more money than Rich. Trust me on this.
Posted by
rfk64
on 02/28/2013 at 8:15 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
ROFLMFAO...Rich, nice rant, seems you stuck a stick in an old septic tank and a bunch of key board savvy turds stuck to it.....keep up the good fight.
If you haven't yet please check out the blog Stonekettle Station, the arguments regarding the insanity of the NRA and the Second Amendment loons is refreshing.
Oh yeah, Magpul may have to retool a little but they could start making penile implants and still satisfy their current customer base (and their long suffering spouses).
Posted by
Boomer49
on 02/28/2013 at 7:54 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Wow. I had intended to point out that this article is nothing but pathetic asinine drivel and question the intellectual ineptitude of the author, but two dozen post have already beat me to it. My faith in the U.S. citizenry has been partially restored. Bravo everyone.
Posted by
JustJJ
on 02/28/2013 at 5:03 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Rich; Stick with your brand of "bathroom humor" and leave the serious issues to those who can better articulate them.
In every case pointed out in your little rant, the shooters were well educated , came from middle class families, and presumably had all of their teeth.
Hopefully, the closest you ever get to high capacity magazines will be a box of comic books that you can plagiarize for future columns.
Posted by
fdohlin
on 02/28/2013 at 2:15 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Macam; According to "fact check", two pistols and a bushmaster were used in the sandy hook shooting. a shotgun was retrieved from the car trunk.
Posted by
fdohlin
on 02/28/2013 at 2:06 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Ranger Rich needs to buy a glass navel, cause his head is so far up that it will help him see out.
Posted by
4Freedom
on 02/28/2013 at 11:21 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Yes Ranger(sick), let's "dip our toes", shall we? As I read this bill I see, in no way at all, a "ban" on large capacity magazines. http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2013…
Now as I read it it states "a person may posess a large capacity magazine if he or she owns the large capacity magazine on the effective date of the bill and maintains continuous posession of the large capacity magazine". So if you own some, you keep them. Nobody knows who owns what magazines and when or where they are purchased. They are not registered, and have no production dates on them. This bill is toothless and unenforceable. It is a waste of the taxpayers time and money. Lets say I went to the Cabelas in Kansas and bought some high capacity magazines. Then I drove them back here to Colorado. I would be breaking this law, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVE IT. If I don't keep the receipt, you have no idea where I got them. I could say they are some of the ones I already own, if I paid cash and there was no paper trail, no one could prove anything. So all this wailing, and clutching of pearls is for naught. The only thing you have accomplished is making a bunch of magazines I bought for $8.99 worth about $100. The only thing that is more of a waste of time is the drivel Rich just wrote.
Posted by
Stacy in Woodland Park
on 02/28/2013 at 9:24 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Typical liberal. COMPLETELY INTOLERANT YET CLAIMS TO BE TOLERANT. Amazing how Liberals are allowed to stereotype, label, categorize, slander, and defame whole people groups, passing JUDGEMENT based on perceived socio-economic demographics.
This writer is completely ignorant of the gun community, our rights and who some of us are. Many are HIGH INCOME, clean cut, clean living individuals.
Do all homosexual men molest boys and carry aids? Do all black and mexican youths join gangs and commit crime?
Read this guys take on the liberal mind. Great blog rather than this crap here we are commenting on: http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/ite…
Posted by
DennyDucet
on 02/28/2013 at 9:07 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Rich, I will point out that the shooter at sandy hook left the AR-15 in the car. He never used the rifle with the high cap magazines in the school at all. I for one will no longer read this news paper if they let someone write such disrespectful trash.
Posted by
mcam
on 02/27/2013 at 10:57 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
you are an ignorant bigot. first of all, your stereotype of gun owners is laughable. i am a gun owner, a proponent of the 2nd amendment, an owner of a few AR-15s, make a 6 figure salary, own a home, and drive a car worth more than you make in a year. i inherited my love of guns from my father, a vietnam veteran and a cardio-throacic surgeon; a man who saved more lives every year than were taken in all of these tragedies combined.
posting the quote from magpul's website... just FYI, many law enforcement and military personnel use magpul equipment. they rely on this "unfair advantage" to protect you, and your right to spew this bigoted garbage.
and FYI, since you mention columbine, Dylan Klebold fired 96 rounds from his AR-style rifle. each one of them out of a 10 round magazine. so, let's not blame magazine capacity, or magpul, for these outrageous tragedies.
you truly are ignorant and sad, and i'm disappointed that any reputable outlet of actual journalism would even publish this.
Posted by
Sean MacNabb
on 02/27/2013 at 10:57 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
No one needs that much ammunition to "protect their land." People who think someone is coming for them and they need to be ready to launch an attack are delusional and sad.
Posted by
Lydia Green
on 02/27/2013 at 10:25 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Rich. I hope you get fired. I will never read this news paper again. And no I'm not a red neck. I'm an engineer, I drive a nice car. I have a hot wife with netters teeth. So you can suck it hippie .
Posted by
mcam
on 02/27/2013 at 10:14 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
How many 30 round magazines have ever killed anyone? Zero.
It takes a second or two to change a clip. Both the Newtown shooter and the Aurora Theater shooter changed clips multiple times. Would they not have done this if they only had access to 10 round magazines? In both of these cases, the shooters set out to kill innocent people and would have done so regardless of the magazine size. Banning clips over 15 rounds is no different than banning a large bottle of wine. It's ultimately up to the person using the product to be responsible for their actions.
I believe you are being very simple-minded by correlating high capacity magazines with mass shootings, yet neglecting the cause of these shootings, which is the shooter, not the magazine.
Posted by
Doonan
on 02/27/2013 at 7:31 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Well Rich, you certainly got your hooter handed to you on this one. Unfortunately, You will no doubt continue in your irrational, emotional and uninformed views. When liberals get something in their craw that they "feel" is right, no amount of fact, logic, evidence, information or reason will change their narrow little minds. They simply close their eyes tight, hold their hands over their ears, put their heads firmly in the sand and chant "nanner, nanner, nanner" over and over until the rational threat has dissipated.
What is truly sad is that you once had some comedic talent. Then your liberalism and need to comment on politics overwhelmed you. The last good article you wrote was on your trip to the YMCA. My advice - stick to bathroom humor. You fail miserably at political commentary.