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Re: “First C4C payment, $760,632, received by city

Thanks Anita. I'd like Bennett to put it on the record in WRITING that he does not consider City sales tax dollars diverted to the URA to be CITY sales tax dollars. If these TIF sales tax dollars are not City sales tax dollars, then what are they? Bennett's non-sense reveals that he is COS very own Mad Hatter explaining to Alice how things work in Wonderland.

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Posted by curious on 08/27/2015 at 5:42 PM

Re: “First C4C payment, $760,632, received by city

CURIOUS: I actually asked Bennett that question. I asked him following a meeting that Council, County Commissioners, former Mayor Bach and other players had about the RTA.

Specifically, I asked Bennett if he considered dollars collected through tax increment financing "city dollars." He said, "No." Bennett also refused to sign a letter stating he would support a public vote if tax increment financing was used.

So, even though those dollars would've been going to our general fund to pay for things like roads, police and fire protection and parks, and would instead be funneled through the URA to pay for a stadium, Bennett does not consider those dollars "city dollars."

I'll eat my hat if Bennett supports a public vote for tax increment financing. I believe he's simply mincing words and hoping the public isn't paying attention.

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Posted by Anita Laydon Miller on 08/27/2015 at 5:00 PM

Re: “Don't sit or lie here, Council says

Public space should be used by ALL who live in Colorado Springs... not just those who have somewhere better to do. This ordinance punishes the disadvantaged citizens by imposing fines and jail time for simply being outside.
Criminalizing peaceful conduct is gross government overreach. The "Don't sit, Don't lie" ordinance is a bureaucrat's of saying GTFO.

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Posted by Hannah Widmer on 08/27/2015 at 2:42 PM

Re: “First C4C payment, $760,632, received by city

The sales tax collected by COS in 2014 was $136.7M. The State has given back to COS a portion of its share of our 2014 sales tax. The State allotted $163,445 for the stadium. While this is a nice sum to receive, it’s peanuts. If the stadium receives $163,445 for the next 30 years from the State, COS will receive a little less than $5M. The citizens of COS will pay $300M for the stadium and its related infrastructure. The State will pay $5M. In the face of these numbers, is it possible for City Leaders to continue the farce/lies that the stadium is mostly free to the taxpayers of COS?

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Posted by curious on 08/27/2015 at 2:36 PM

Re: “First C4C payment, $760,632, received by city

The premise of the Regional Tourism Act (RTA) defies reason: State sales tax in the regional tourism zone went up without ANY help from C4C (because the projects haven't even been STARTED) and yet the State bleeds its general fund, giving credit to C4C. Yet State officials blame the failure to fund CDOT (for highways) on the lack of general fund dollars. The RTA was backed by state legislators like Keith King and other "fiscally conservative" Republicans and Democrats whose campaigns have gotten funded as a reward for shifting public taxpayer investment to private profit and corporate welfare. The RTA will likely get renewed, not because of its proven success to bring tourists, but because the recipients of the corporate welfare are happy to continue helping state legislators stay in office.

This is the same ill logic the City's apologists have and will continue to use to extract C4C and other TIF financing schemes out of the CITY'S general fund to the detriment of roads and stormwater. The City's URA board, with complicit cooperation of City Council over the years, has already stripped the general fund of tens of millions to pay corporate welfare recipients for their pet projects. To counter a public who is starting to ask questions about the wisdom of TIF, the URA Board--just this week--has agreed to pay nearly $10,000 collected as City taxes to their "go-to economist propagandists," Summit Economics, to take the narrative of how corporate welfare benefits everyone. As a reminder Summit received tens of thousands to provide ridiculous economic projections for C4C. See proposal here:… The URA continues it's refusal to video record its meetings, preferring instead to operate in the shadows provided by a midday meeting most working professionals don't have the luxury attend.

...shame that Councilman Bill Murray, who prior to being elected and becoming intoxicated by the C4C koolaid spoke out against the insanity, now sits as part of the unanimous rubber stamp of the Urban Renewal Authority Board.

Bennett's sound bite is only to deceive anyone paying attention and he knows it--Council's "pinky promise" for a stadium vote specifically excludes a vote if it is funded through TIF and the URA.

More specifics here:


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Posted by Liberty for COS on 08/27/2015 at 1:45 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Slide visits Schriever AFB

Our military families sacrifice enough. The military is the backbone of our country but many times the sacrifice of the military families goes unnoticed. The Slide City event that was sponsored by Schriever AFB was an exceptional activity. Slide City was a great experience for our military kids and some of their non-military friends and peers. Giving the military kids a special break is something that we don’t do enough. Unless you have walked the journey of a military child you should never question these activities. Most of the military kids change schools every two years. If your child has ever changed schools, you would know that is not a small adjustment. Our military children experience many challenges such as deployment of their parents, injury and death of family members and friends, the constant relocation of schools, friends, social structures, and opportunities. It is just an honor to work with our military in serving the most important people in their lives - their children. I want to thank the Schriever Command and their personnel for getting together to provide a quality opportunity for the Military Child and including other kids in the area. Ellicott School District #22 is honored to serve the military child as is most of El Paso County. I want to thank the military families for their contributions to our country. Let's all work together to not let down their children.
Patrick Cullen, ED.D., Superintendent, Ellicott School District #22

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Posted by Ellicott School on 08/27/2015 at 1:41 PM

Re: “First C4C payment, $760,632, received by city

"detractors say stadiums have proved to be revenue losers in other cities" is not the only reason detractors don't want to spend local sales tax revenue - $300M including the stadium's infrastructure - to build it. The primary reasons are (1) the stadium has no purpose [such as to provide a home for a NFL team], (2) it fills no need [the World Arena provides what need exists to host sports events], (3) only a vote will determine if the citizens want a stadium, and (4) only a vote will determine if the citizens would rather spend $300M of sales tax revenue for a stadium instead of applying this revenue to roads and stormwater funding.

Council president Bennett stated "that if it is going to cost the City any money that it will go to the voters." What does Bennett mean? Specifically? Does he mean that if sales tax revenue that would have gone into the general fund is instead diverted to the URA via TIF, that this diversion of tax dollars will require a vote of the people? Or does he mean .... Perhaps councilman Bennett would clarify this point?

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Posted by curious on 08/27/2015 at 10:35 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Weinstein makes new demand of the Air Force Academy

This is the court that has, as society evolves, decided that some aspects of our political and cultural nature are no longer justifiable--like the fact that laws restricted the equal rights of all citizens (blacks, gays, etc). Slavery has cultural heritage. It's one thing to make an attempt to accommodate folks by not scheduled an event on a Friday, Saturday, or Sunday. It's another entirely to completely disregard and abuse the position of the fastest growing spiritual group in the land--those that do not believe in sky fairies and don't feel the need to buy private jets for the hucksters that push those myths to the ignorant. Likewise, we shouldn't supply a line on a government issued diploma endorsing one spiritual world view over thousands of others any more than black USAFA grads should get their diploma last.

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Posted by BirdManBlue on 08/27/2015 at 5:30 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Weinstein makes new demand of the Air Force Academy

The Supreme Court has noted on numerous occasions that [1]“government policies of accommodation, acknowledgment, and support for religion are an accepted part of our political and cultural heritage.” The Court has stated that when the state…[2] cooperates with religious authorities by adjusting the schedule of public events to sectarian needs, it follows the best of our traditions…. To hold that it may not would be to find in the Constitution a requirement that the government show a callous indifference to religious groups.”

But then the opinion of the Supreme Court may not be something that generates a want to discuss.

[1]Allegheny County v. ACLU, 492 U.S. 573, 657 (1989).

[2]Zorach v. Clauson, 343 U.S. 306, 313–14 (1952).

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Posted by Gordon Reichal on 08/26/2015 at 8:54 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Weinstein makes new demand of the Air Force Academy

I can tell you that 10 years ago this topic came up with at least one senior leader at USAFA (the Dean) recognizing that it was inappropriate and dated. She, of course, did nothing about it, however, because she is a mendacious sycophant and a Born-again christian.
How does "In The Year of Our Lord..." survive scrutiny when USAFA has numerous Muslim, Hindu, Buddhist, Atheist, Agnostic, and Earth-Centered cadets? Only through fear of retribution from the Powers-That-Be. They just don't want to run the risk of raising the issue in a military hierarchy in which a single word can crush a career or divert an assignment or preclude a career field--without ever leaving a trace.

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Posted by BirdManBlue on 08/26/2015 at 8:46 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Weinstein makes new demand of the Air Force Academy

Once folks realize we are living in a post christian era, it won't seem odd to take those words off the diploma. Folks will look back and say "wow, what was that all about, and to think, people died over it."

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Posted by Milt_johnson on 08/26/2015 at 7:36 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Weinstein makes new demand of the Air Force Academy

Cue the dominionist braying and howling in 3.... 2.... 1.....

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Posted by aveteran on 08/26/2015 at 6:04 PM

Re: “Don't sit or lie here, Council says

Totally agree with the ACLU. Here are two links to solution-oriented, not criminalizing programs that have actually addressed the issue and helped the homeless.

Posted by MCH on 08/26/2015 at 3:44 PM

Re: “What's next in cannabis legislation?

I'm fine with restricting sales at clubs to 1 gram max of flower or concentrate/hash, with consumption on site required. That way, even if they left with it, it's only a tiny quantity that is really only enough for a sitting or two. The clubs that are selling ounces of concentrates and flower I think are crossing the line into recreational dispensary territory. I think the need for rec shops exists in the Springs, both on the customer side and the workforce side. How many people came here looking for work in the recreational cannabis industry and ended up homeless because there is no recreational cannabis industry allowed here? We could benefit from the taxes for road repair, further reduce the black market, and provide jobs for the people who came here looking for them so they can get themselves off the streets. No criminalization of poverty necessary. Everybody wins.

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Posted by Erick Dunham on 08/26/2015 at 2:59 PM

Re: “'Hi, I’m the Goat Cheese Lady'

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Posted by Paul Davidson on 08/26/2015 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Don't sit or lie here, Council says

Don't we already have loitering laws in place which would seem to address this issue?

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Posted by rms on 08/26/2015 at 7:45 AM

Re: “City scores big win in Banning Lewis Ranch bankruptcy case

I have always dreaded the 70,000+ homes they wanted to build out there before. Not only would they have been another potential drain on our city resources, but all those homes would have been an eye sore, just like the ugly sea of roof tops along the Powers corridor. Plus, I've also noticed the people who live on the east side of town seem very culturally distant, as if they came from another state, and only wonder out of their homes for big events like Spring Spree or Territory days. Do we really need to invite more people like that into town.

I would love to see a developer actually do some good and start improving on our city center, instead of destroying it with more tract homes. Things like walk-able multi-use neighborhoods, instead of closed off neighborhoods that are miles from the nearest big box shopping strip. We need more venues to bring people out of their bubbles, I mean BLR has plenty of open space for a massive Race track, or even a decent sized theme park, or outdoor music / event center.

Posted by Thomas Osinski on 08/26/2015 at 7:40 AM

Re: “Don't sit or lie here, Council says

When the streets get fixed and brought up to date, then maybe it will be time to worry about who is lying on the sidewalks. Most people really don't care what happens downtown because they are there less than once a year. The streets, on the other hand, are all over the place and used every day.

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Posted by Clara McKenna on 08/25/2015 at 5:27 PM

Re: “Road tax measure needs repairs

Very well paid (by taxpayers) lawyers just happen to miss that nuance of the law. If the State Constitution is to be disregarded, they might as well set aside the US Constitution and the City Charter as well.

It is unfortunate, but government must be babysat constantly.

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Posted by Liberty for COS on 08/25/2015 at 2:19 PM

Re: “Drown the gay scoutmasters, says Dr. Chaps

Pam Zubeck quoted press releases without checking to see if the complaint in them was factual. It is extremely easy to check and see if someone like Dr.Gordon "Chaps" Klingenschmidt said something on his TV show. The recordings, as well as the transcribed text, are searchable on Google. I just did it.

Fact: "Chaps" was grossly misquoted. He didn't say that at all, and he is owed a public apology. In fact, here is a link to him addressing this false claim from a couple of weeks ago, and he rolls the tape of what was actually said:

Of course I know the people who initiated these lies against "Chaps" will never apologize. They would never do that, because they have an agenda and go out of their way to twist the truth repeatedly to push their agenda. They are liars. Pam Zubeck lied by passing the initial lie found in the two press releases she quoted without checking her facts. Dave Montez of the One Colorado organization lied about "Chaps" and what he said. Progress Colorado lied about "Chaps" as well. And then, these lying idiots call for Dr. "Chaps" Klingenschmidt to resign.

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Posted by David Wilder on 08/25/2015 at 10:48 AM

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