To be clear, Mayor Bach has specifically said he does not support a tax increase to fund City for Champions. He also has said the Springs Capital Improvement Program bonds are to be paid off in a few years. These are being paid off without a tax increase, and new bonds could be issued and repaid from general fund revenues that already exist without a tax increase. Just FYI.
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Thanks for the long rambling note. I hope I am indeed alive and well in four years. ONE year would be nice. Anyway, thanks for your insight. You should have gotten involved in local politics.
"From an actual letter to the state economic commission:" Really? You have seen actual letters and/or emails sent to the EDC? Regardless, agree that Bruce Jenner doesn't have the appeal of Garbo, Dietrich, Keaton, etal, to whom no shrines have been built.
During the blitzkrieg campaign unfolding to sell the wobbly benefits of building a stadium/museum complex, benefits that include putting COS on the road to duplicate the success of Oklahoma City, a city that just like COS had the empowering vision to build a stadium. Or was the success of OKC due to the obvious - that city's embrace of energy - not wind farms but OIL - and the revenue and prosperity for all that followed hard upon.
Our mayor says he wants the approval of the people, the very people who will be paying $350M and then some to build and maintain C4C for the next 30 years. City council is an important player in the decision making process. Let your opinion regarding C4C be heard. Contact them at firstname.lastname@example.org
That really was an epic speech. Let's do this and do this right.
Jill Gaybler is a flip flopper. She's really a liberal and proved no friend of Mayor Steve Bach's. She got the job on Council being Susie Bach's friend (who you know had the City Clerk fix the election results). What a joke.
"into something different. Frankly, anything different." Words that can be applied to why COS local government changed to a Mayor-Council form of government. Residents wanted any type of change for the City and approved a ballot measure despite the charter having numerous errors and being unclear on responsibilities between the executive and legislative branches. I think if you read the report and really listen to their comments, EDC gave COS the money in order for our City to recover. Despite having both a 3rd party economic analyst and EDC staff recommending lower amounts, as well as some of the official application criteria not being met, they approved the full amount. Why? Fire, flooding, and being the only City to apply got Colorado Springs that money. It wasnt who wrote letters, or traveled on a bus thru a wintery storm, or who even sang for some dollars. COS has a chance to make some monumental changes for the City and Im excited to see a fire lit in this City to improve it's situation. It's reminds me the deal my hubby and I made with our teenager. "If you get all A's and B's, only then you can have a phone." The offer and opportunity are there for COS but action still needs to be taken. Rich, if you are still alive nor senile in 5 years, hopefully you will be writing on the completion and successes of the 4 projects. The real work of planning, funding, and community conversations begin now.
Sally, it's too bad your view that "our world seems to become more frightening and dangerous" is having a detrimental affect on your enjoyment of the Holidays, but if you'd choose to conduct some research, you'd find that firearms violence is actually decreasing, except in some large, urban areas (Chicago, Detroit, D.C.) that have enacted massive regulatory measures (simply Google "is gun violence up or down" for overwhelming evidence of this).
Please make a resolution next year to get the facts and tangible data about matters that concern you before succumbing to such distress, and in the meanwhile, have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!
I don't think we should be using city bonds or local tax funds to build facilities for the state university or federal government.
Put "marijuana prohibitionist" next to Hillary Clinton's name and then start laughing at the poll results.
Buddy Buck- be careful of what you wish for. A poor plan is just that. Missy Palin once said the same thing about lipstick on a pig. In summary, I support any plan that might lead to any transformation of our village from a 1980s enclave of lousy jobs, Jesus nuts and gun loonies into something different. But Frank, if that's your real name, anything different is like the Colorado Springs no-name soccer team winning the world cup. I know, I know, it will produce 867 jobs. That's a hell of a mark up for $250 million. Why don't we just sell our own Mega Colorado Springs Lottery tickets. With 1 in 259 million odds, why we could pay for this entire City for Champions thing.
For I see now a day when we stride into our new Olympic museum and empty stadium, and see, right there in front of us, Jenkins' varsity shirt, Bruce Kardasian's purse and the signed letter from DeBachel stating "I shouldn't have eaten the whole thing". Don't forget Duck Dynasty Day at the stadium..brought to you by Bass Pro...
Really? Hall and Oates? Cat Stevens? Is Bryan Adams next? Celine Dion must be on the list soon as well then. By this list, Michael Bolton should be in next year for sure.
"Gluten can cause health problems ("Your brain on grain," Appetite, Dec. 11), but so can quitting. "
Most people have no clue what gluten actually is/is not and what foods it can be found in. There are a lot of people out decrying foods as having gluten when they don't. There are also a lot relying on anecdotal evidence as if they were scientific studies and spreading tons of misinformation.
It's surprising that El Pomar intends to donate generously to C4C when 15 years ago they gave $29M - their largest donation to date - to help build the World Arena, a facility that has failed to make COS a major player in the sports world or provide the expected economic renaissance. The reasons for building the WA were the same (minus the Olympics emphasis) as for building the C4C stadium. Building a stadium/arena didn't work 15 years ago, nor will it now. Also, C4C will prove to be a disappointment as a tool to attract companies and businesses and increase traffic at our airport, which is what COS needs for economic recovery. Supposedly C4C is designed to attract tourists, but is this likely to happen? Tourists may drop by the Olympic museum during the 1 year in 4 that the Olympic Games are generating excitement, but will tourists book a flight to COS during the off years? We need realistic data re WHO and HOW MANY will be patronizing the stadium and museum.
Once upon a distant time, back in the 60s, building stadiums was thought by city leaders to be THE answer to keep their city from dying, but economic growth via Stadiums and Convention Centers and Mega Hotels have been proven over the past 50 years to be a loser for the citizens who are stuck paying off the loans and having to write off the loss when the entity goes bust.
In 2004 John Hazelhurst wrote an informative history of the World Arena and the Pikes Peak Center which shows the financial perils of building BIG projects that don't live up to their intended goals. http://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/worl… This article highlights the familiar consequences of Thinking Big. Revenue at PPC was insufficient to pay for maintenance which was deferred until it could be deferred no longer, which compelled its owner - El Paso County - to transfer this costly bauble to WA, thus ridding the county of its expensive albatross. The C4C stadium etal will require major maintenance during the 30-year span of the bond loans. It is not unlikely that the stadium/museum etal will become expensive albatrosses. This likelihood is something for the proponents and the citizens to consider BEFORE commiting ourselves to $350M of new debt.
"When I was raising my children, in the '60s, they had fire drills at school. Would anyone have had the remotest thought that we would have to prepare them for someone coming into their schools and shooting them? Of course not."
And yet, in the 60s, firearms were much easier to get. You could get a full-auto (machine gun) for pretty cheap whereas today they will cost you several thousand just for a worn out one. There were no background checks. Age limits were nearly non-existent.
"but can't we reasonably try to come up with some partial solutions to this problem?"
Sure. How about addressing the behavior and its root causes instead of bosessing over the object being misused?
"Better regulations? Better background checks?"
We've been trying that for 75+ years, passing more and more restrictions on what can be bought/owned, who can own, and how to buy. Hasn't had much effect. So how about we realize that was the wrong approach and try something else?
"Shouldn't we all want this awful situation to stop?"
Who doesn't? The good news is it has been decreasing even though the number of firearms in circulation have been increasing.
Perhaps this will give the mayor some incentive to solve the $270 million PERA issue resulting from the Memorial lease agreement.
As a Utilities rate payer I strongly object to subsidized watering for City Parks. I had to get rid of my lawn because I cannot afford to pay the price it costs to water it. The City needs to find a reasonable solution and not expect money from specific Utilities services to be taken and used for the municipal parks. It is hard to come to grips with this issue but in the end we live in a semi-arid biome and have suffered incredible drought in recent years. Find a way to fund watering parks without robbing Peter to pay Paul.
we live in teabaggerville... who in their right mind think these baggers are going to vote for an increase in taxes... or any increase??? it is hard to tell from the article at what point the public gets a say in this... before or after mayor botch's buddies get rich, and we are on the hook for the rest??
I LIKE the fact that EPS will provide the county an "outsiders" opinion to balance and perhaps dampen the "insiders" highly optimistic estimates of how many new out-of-state tourists will come to COS because we have built for their enjoyment a stadium/museum complex.
I went to the link and read about the Copper Ridge shopping center/road development. The county commissioners were wise to follow EPS assessment and nix this private/govt deal.
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