Secularism isn't new, TT, it was how our country was originally founded with Seperation of Church and State, so don't try to re-write history. It has only been since the 1980's when the evangical churches started a movement to insert Christian morality into our governmental laws. So why can't each and every person govern themselves instead of having to follow your brand of religion? Just because we don't want it in our governing laws doesn't mean we don't practice morality and personal spirituality in our homes.
From Wikepedia: Seperation of Church and State: Thomas Jefferson:
In English, the exact term is an offshoot of the phrase, "wall of separation between church and state", as written in Thomas Jefferson's letter to the Danbury Baptist Association in 1802. In that letter, referencing the First Amendment to the United States Constitution, Jefferson writes: "Believing with you that religion is a matter which lies solely between Man & his God, that he owes account to none other for his faith or his worship, that the legitimate powers of government reach actions only, & not opinions, I contemplate with sovereign reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should 'make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof,' thus building a wall of separation between Church and State." Jefferson reflected his frequent speaking theme that the government is not to interfere with religion.
The Bill of Rights was one of the earliest examples in the world of complete religious freedom (adopted in 1791, only preceded by the Declaration of the Rights of Man and of the Citizen in 1789) but it was interpreted as establishing a separation of Church and State only after the letter of Jefferson (see section United States for more details). At the time of the passage of the Bill of Rights, many states acted in ways that would now be held unconstitutional, some of them with official state churches. All of the early official state churches were disestablished by 1833.
Milligan's primary goal is to advance the new world order in her own image without a God to interfere with her reign of political correct totalitarianism...it is to turn Colo Spgs upside down, and that sort of radical transformation will not bring peace and stability, but strive and division.
Zen...Denver Seminary? That explains why you are an advocate for the new secularism and not the Christianity of the Apostles. Your education is faulty and doesn't serve you well.
The religion of Jesus is one where God's love directs and rules our hearts toward peace now and eternity ultimately.
Your religion of permissiveness and self affirmation is a direct path to pain now and dysfunction in the future...not something a loving God would wish for his children.
God, as scripture says, has a special place for wolves in sheep's clothing like you.
If "Milligan is a far left whack job" then how far off the right edge of the map are you? Geez TT .. some days you make Pinochet look like a centrist.
Another 14 jobs and more young people gone. Good job blue hairs. As for Pico, he's a egotistical hack. I used to debate that guy on the Gazette, and he wouldn't know good science from a pile of sh*t. Like most of the council, he's a slave to ideology and blind to on the ground reality.
TejonTech, speaking as one with a degree in Religious Studies, who studied theology and ministry at Denver Seminary, and has worked in Protestant and Catholic church and para-church organizations, I can confidently and authoritatively say that you my friend are no Christ follower. You're a Pharisee. And a milk fed one at that. It's time to take back the church from people like you ... people who have overseen the largest single decline in US church attendance in history. If Jesus were to return today, I have zero doubt you'd be first to pick up a hammer and nail. You genuinely have no idea what you do. And for that, I just feel sorry for you. Grow up milk fed ... before it's too late. Good luck with all that self-righteous rage.
TejonTech it is truly sad to see a person so tied up in knots as you.
One poster wrote, "no one seems to be capable of hiring people who have the spunk, skills, and ideas to stand up and make a difference". There were some of us younger professionals with those traits in the Springs, and we were making a difference until about June 2011 when Mayor Bach took office and starting gutting the community. Our family recently left the Springs and so have a lot of people we know - other 40 and under people like us and even some really successful friends in their 50s and 60s. While it was hard to leave our friends, our home/neighborhood and our jobs, we are glad we did, especially given the recent take over of City Council. Thanks, David for trying to be an entreprenuer with Sun Share - you think the pro-business Reaganonomics-worshipping crowd would have been behind your capitalist efforts. But alas you are not a developer building junk houses/buildings and skirting regulations left and right.
Welcome to the progressive world of the uber-anal Mayor Marc Snyder. You thought Marcy Morrison was bad for Manitou, think again. What a dumbass move by the mayor and his brain dead council. Good luck getting any of the Springs locals to visit Manitou in the winter when businesses need them most. What a moron.
So there is money when they say "turn out the lights, let the roads rot because we are poor"! I know people who try to earn $25k a year and cannot. $180k a year means you better be doing good work and that kind of pay is thanks enough. $25k extra for doing what you were hired to do is stupidity. Give it back to the taxpayers now please.
Oil derricks downtown?! Now that would be a sight especially if they were spewing crude everywhere!
But really, these protestors have no clue as to what they are talking about and if they drive to the place of protest then that is a bit contradictory. If they worry about our water it comes from Leadville. There is no ground water near downtown to speak of anyway. Our water is in Rampart Res and those ponds on Pikes Peak. Perhaps they could get the fertilizer at Walmarts parking lots put in better places. That stuff flows with the rain right into Fountain Creek etc.
Mr. Weinstein is a joke and is only doing this to gain popularity in his otherwise useless life. People like this should not even get airtime or allowed to spew his hatred towards the god fearing people of this country. Mr. Weinstein you have the right not to beloeve but I along with millions of others have the right to assemble and profess our religious beliefs. I feel really sorry for you Mr. Weinstein, life is to short to hate and be so up tight. You are probably needing those workouts so you don't blow a blood vessel. May God bless you Mr. Weinstein.
Admonishing each other and defending the truth trumps letting a false teaching stand....look it up!
Now that drugs are legal...whatever is just fine.
Smoke some dope, have sex, take a oops pill...all is well and all will be well.
As a person who moved here from Iowa, I feel Colorado Springs has many wonderful attributes, but tolerance isn't one of them. It never ceases to surprise me that with the amount of diversity here, it doesn't seem to be reflected in the voices of voters or public officials. I hope that in ten years, Colorado Springs has come even further in advancing social equality.
Apparently, TT has forgotten some of his childhood Bible Lessons while professing his doctrine of hate again. Picking on church folk and their minister- Shame on you!
John 8:1-12 The woman caught in adultry- What did Jesus tell the Pharisees? vs 7- He who is without sin cast the first stone. vs 11- Neither do I condemn thee; go, and sin no more. Why did Jesus say this when the Law of Moses said she should be stoned? Because Christ Jesus entered in the Grace Administration and we are no longer under the Law.
Romans 8:1- There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus.
And my favorite: 1 Corinthians 13:1-13 Though I speak with the tongues of men and of angels and have not charity (love of god) I am become as sounding brass or a tinkling cymbal..(noises that hurts the ears because there is no love of God in the motivation- sound familar TT? )..13- And now abideth faith, hope, charity, these three;but the greatest of these is charity.
Great idea, TejonTech! Let's just let kids shoot up anything they want in school without teacher intervention. Some of them might just be taking allergy medication.
Bird Dog's ribs are just not very good at all...tough and tasteless...I keep hoping, but have come away slightly sickened three times now.
If 15 year olds can take abortion pills without supervision, why can't they be responsible for this without government intervention?
I agree with them if for no other reason than because it would make our city a real hell hole to have drilling towers near businesses and neighborhoods...banning fracking within city limits seems like a no-brainer.
Unless the Broadmoor wants derricks along their golf courses, and we all know what the Broadmoor wants, the Broadmoor gets.
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