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Re: “Sanders' rebellion is alive

When Vietnamized wrote:
“…this country has always been something of a socialist democracy.” …
he reminded me that the first three words of the Constitution are: “We the People”, not “Me the Individual”, or “It the Corporation”.
Bernie reawakened many Americans to the spirit of the Founders and their desire to make America a “more perfect union”. He reminded us that the government they established is aspirational, not confrontational, inclusionary, not exclusionary, and exists to make all citizens’ lives better, not establish an environment for protecting expanded Capitalist exploitation. Yes, this is a Democratic Socialist Nation, founded during the enlightenment’s heightened awareness of the Social Responsibility we ALL share in expanding the Common Good.

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Posted by asawatcher on 08/29/2016 at 7:33 AM

Re: “Robin Williams, Hickenlooper and fracking, sisters' gratitude, and more

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Posted by Angel Javire on 08/28/2016 at 8:18 PM

Re: “Sanders' rebellion is alive

I helped sponsor Mr. Hightower to speak to the Democrats in Tom Green County, TX prior to the 2012 election - I'm a huge fan, and I think he's exactly right. Bernie 'spoke' to all of us when he belabored the system for being corrupt and rigged for the rich. I would have voted for him without reservation. Now we have to avoid a Trump presidency and there is no way I'm going to split the vote. What would our world be like if the new President was favored by Vladimir Putin, his puppet master Aleksandr Dugin and owes millions to the Chinese banking system.

I strongly agree with NewTom that Bernie has had a positive influence on the Democratic platform and I would remind other readers that this country has always been something of a socialist democracy. We all pay for common services and infrastructure...as long as some anti-tax, debt-addled sequestering fool doesn't shut the government down again (are you listening, Ted Cruz?)

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Posted by Vietnamized on 08/28/2016 at 10:08 AM

Re: “Sanders' rebellion is alive

That's a reassuring thought. He strongly influenced the platform's Hopefully we'll get a election results that will put the government back to work rather than obstructing every good idea

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Posted by NewTom on 08/28/2016 at 9:27 AM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Kyle, one other thought after I posted my last ...again, long response, sorry about that.

Tulsi Gabbard, whom I love, has strong native Samoan blood lines.

There are other Native people running down ballot.

Let's support them.

They had it right, it was the white man, wacicu that screwed things up. Let's put our government back in their hands.

Don't give up on being a liberal or progressive, we need folks like you to help right the ship..so to speak.

Just a though my friend. :)

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Posted by Lil Mick on 08/28/2016 at 9:09 AM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

KyleJs,

I can totally relate to what you are saying. I don't think there was anything you wrote that I would disagree with.

I was a "berner" for the reasons you wrote.

I agree with the use of taxes, our means of giving back and what I really liked is you didn't seem to have an issue with using taxes to help lift Americans out of poverty, to help give all Americans good health care. I had read that the dental health of middle class Americans is equivalent to third world nations. If someone questions that, I will look that up to get some references.

Those uses are what seems to give conservatives so much heart burn. Calling it a "nanny state', or takers vs. makers.

I would love to see less money going to the military, I think we spend more than enough. Stop paying for regime changes and nation building and into the hands of middle class Americans.

I think we are in agreement.

I don't love Hillary, neither do I dislike her. :) I have a lot of issues with Hillary. I do dislike Trump.

Like it or not, one of those two will be leading this nation for at least the next 4 years. Trump frightens me much more than Hillary.

Lesser of two evils....sure.

It would be nice to change our system to where 3rd or more party candidates would have a real chance of a real run in this country. But we are still in a place where 3rd or more party candidates will give the election to either the Republican or Democratic candidate. That's the problem with voting for one of them.

I don't think Dr. Stein is really qualified to run a country like this, I like what she says, but some I think is simply impractical at this point in time.

I will never vote for a libertarian, as in my opinion, they don't like "community". They want to be left alone to take of themselves and the rest of us to fend for ourselves. Obviously, from my last post, that is a problem for me. I believe in community.

I don't mind calling myself a liberal or progressive. I am an independent as far a political parties go, being a Vermonter, it is implicit to be an Independent as we don't affiliate to a party, because they don't ask.

The other reason I would vote for Hillary, is we still have the Bern! He is not going anywhere and is going to be very involved now with transforming the Democratic party. He has already made a huge difference in the platform and with some of Hillary's positions. She has moved a bit to the left on some issues thanks to the Berne.

To move this country more to where you would like to see it go, support the Revolution, support candidates like Tulsi Gabbard and other more progressive folks down ballot and it will help to continue to move Hillary to the left, ones who will push back on her more hawkish tendencies and less into building bombs and nations

Who knows what we would get with Trump. It scares the crap out of me and makes me feel good I am less than two hours from Canada. Just in case.

I think you rock, Kyle.

Stay involved, work with the revolution, the revolution needs you and I believe even with Hillary in the white house, we can move in the direction you and I would like to go. I don't think we have that hope with Trump.

Pilamaya Yelo my friend....Mitakue Oyasin.

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Posted by Lil Mick on 08/28/2016 at 8:45 AM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Lil Mick-

I appreciated your writing, and would specifically like to comment on your discussion of taxes and paying them in the spirit of 'giving back'. I agree with this sentiment. However, I do think that we no longer have the representation I grew up believing we had. I think now is the time to ask how patriotic a German citizen in 1936 may have felt, paying taxes and joining the military to serve his country.

I agree with your Lakota friends in their assessment of white culture. I think by paying taxes now, we are simply paying taxes to the Wakiku God.

I have no problem with paying taxes for healthcare, roads, housing assistance, etc. I really, really have a tough time paying taxes to bomb innocent people in countries for our own economic advantage. Considering that we apparently have made no progress in actually properly providing healthcare, or maintaining or infrastructure, or teaching our youth, and this despite the overwhelming desire of our populace to do such things, tells me something is wrong. The fact that we've made incredible progress in bombing babies in other countries tells me something is really wrong! Of all the things we agree on, we agree we shouldn't just haphazardly bomb kids and families in other countries. But that seems to be what we are best at.

Topping it off, Liberals now are saying we have to vote for the candidate who has over and over again proven herself corrupt, and who defined her career as a Secretary of State with the toppling of Libya, which at the time had one of the highest standards of living of any African country. O yeah, she also is desperately trying to get into Syria, and a quick search of her emails on Wikileaks will show why. She's wanted to since 2001- in order to destabilize Iran and strengthen Israels regional position. O, and she also denies Palestinian attempts at statehood.


Wonderful liberal candidate. I am having an easier time departing from the democratic party now though, and even the label of "liberal", which have both seemed to equate themselves with normalizing world atrocities.


That's a tangent from paying taxes, but literally, how I am having an increasingly difficult time paying taxes which go to depleted uranium rounds to salt the earth of Libya, Yemen, Sudan, Iraq, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Palestine, Syria, etc. -

Can anyone relate to that?

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Posted by KyleJS on 08/27/2016 at 5:42 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Tannim...

I find your stereotyping of me, being a progressive, somewhat insulting and quite inaccurate.

I have worked hard for everything I have. I have worked hard my whole life. The state is not my provider, nor is it my all knowing deity. I rely on myself and I think for myself. You and I are no different in that aspect.

As far as stealing, which I believe is your alias to paying taxes.
The Lakota, beautiful wise people, whom I was so blessed to meet and learn from when I lived in your neck of the woods, called the white man "wacicu". Wacicu, very loosely interpreted, means one who does not give back. They took and they took, but they didn't give back. The Lakota noticed that when they observed the white man slaughtering buffalo and leaving the full dead carcasses to rot, among other actions where the white man took and took and took from our Earth Mother.

I consider paying taxes as a way of giving back to our country and our people for what I have received living here. So, I sign my tax document with gladness to be able to give back. My opinion, those of you who hate to pay taxes are still wacicu, you still have not learned the concept of giving back.

I realize the greater debate is are we paying too much. However, there are many wealthy individuals and corporations in this country who pay nothing or close to nothing in taxes. Until Mr. Trump, the Republican nominee shows us his tax forms, I will assume he is very much a wacicu.

Are you still living as a wacicu Tannim? Do you feel a gladness to give back to help others in this country that has given you the opportunities you have had?

The native people had a strong feeling of community. They could not rejoice if others in their community were hurting, they took care of each other.

Because of this strong sense of community Tannim, the U.S. government took on the mindset to "save the child, they must kill the indian". Their first step was to kill this strong sense of community and instil the mindset to look after themselves and let others take care of themselves. This sounds very familiar to current Republican mindset.

As far as Eminent Domain is concerned, what you are referring to as coveting, that's a difficult concept for me. I have mixed feelings, because I believe in community, I am willing to give for the common good.

I think if it is right or wrong, depends on a case by case basis. Giving up your property for some corporation...hell no! I will stand beside you to protest that.

However, if it can be shown that it is indeed for the common good, I don't necessarily oppose that. But for those who do give for the common good should be compensated in a very satisfactory manner. They have given back and they need to be rewarded for such an act of love for our community.

As far as murder goes and a police state, I won't argue with that at all. I am with you, we need to overhaul our law enforcement. There was a time in my life, I am 61 years old, it was very uncommon for an officer to take a life and when they did it was a very traumatic event and many officers could not get over that trauma and left the force.

It seems nowadays an officer may have taken many lives and it doesn't seem to bother or affect them at all, they can strangle a man to death on video and walk away feeling good and proud. I find that alarming and frightening.

Having said all of this Tannim, I want to thank you for your very respectful debate. I believe your were the one I told a while back that name calling is beneath you. You and I have never met, I just knew you were better than that and you have shown me I was correct.

Pilamaya Yelo (thank you) and Mitakue Oyasin ( we are all related, or all one), we can take this concept one step further, left leaning or right leaning, Pagan or Christian, we are all American's.

I would love Tannim to be able to call you "kola"....My Friend.

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Posted by Lil Mick on 08/26/2016 at 9:36 AM

Re: “Trump fights for the rich

More of the same liberal media trash talk. Yawn.... Speaking of liars...... the Clintons have both lied under oath.

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Posted by badenowl on 08/26/2016 at 9:34 AM

Re: “Wave your bandera with pride

The assumption, apparently, is that Trump is anti-Mexican. In my view, he is anti illegal alien. No matter where you sit in this emotionally charged election year, one needs to follow the laws of the land. Anything else leads to more problems than we already have.

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Posted by badenowl on 08/26/2016 at 9:31 AM

Re: “537 plants seized in medical marijuana sting; judge reverses course in case of accused doctors

BULL SHIT free the weed im 68 and this is still ridiculous

Posted by Angel Graham on 08/25/2016 at 9:39 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Lil Mick:

To the left, their god is not Jehovah but Big Brother and Big Nanny, they worship the state as their provider and all-knowing deity, and then rely on it for all in the same way that the theocrats on the right do. Yes, statism is a religion that tells people that it's OK to steal, covet, and murder for the greater good. That's what taxation, eminent domain, and the police state are all about.

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Posted by Tannim on 08/25/2016 at 12:12 PM

Re: “Colorado's election influence might be running cold

I went to the GOP Fair
A big orange baboon was there
The overgrown chump
Said his name was Trump
And spoke with a flatulent flair

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Posted by OldCrank on 08/24/2016 at 9:15 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Don McCullen:

I am a progressive pagan and I would be ok having the AHA pay taxes along with all religious organizations, churches, political non-profits and any other organizations that brings in an income.

I do disagree that I want to replace God with Government. To me they are separate entities that have differing functions, and it is completely illogical to an atheist. How can an atheist replace God with Government, to them God does not exist. So, there is nothing to replace.

...and this comment that progressivism is "A religion that tells people it's ok to steal, covert, and murder for the greater good." I don't even know how to make sense out of that, but if the source is Steve Deace, well that explains it, and not even worth debating.

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Posted by Lil Mick on 08/24/2016 at 4:46 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Unless they are involved in Progressive Politics longtooth. Right??? Will the American Humanist Association start paying taxes??? I doubt it cause they carry the water for the Progressive agenda as well. Progressive is not just poltical ideals, its also a Religion. A religion that tells people its ok to steal, covert, and murder for the greater good.

"We need to realize progressivism isn't a political ideology. It is a cult. A heresy that seeks to replace the church with its own religion. Replacing God with government. You can't defeat a heresy with a political party. Especially when the leaders of both parties are adherents to it to varying degrees. Only the church is capable to defeat a heresy. Progressivism is the heresy of this age."-Steve Deace

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Posted by Don McCullen on 08/24/2016 at 3:37 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Dave Beckwith: While you are correct about conflating the two pieces, Amendment 69 is not the solution. In simple terms, Colorado can't afford it. Health begins with the individual, not the state and not the insurance companies.

Larimore Nicholl: What makes you think she isn't?

Bob Kinsey: Channeling Adam Smith, champion of the free market, to call for the election of the watermelon Greens, who never met a free market they didn't hate, is disingenuous and completely ridiculous. They aren't another choice, unless one wants Hillary and Trump on steroids instead of simple common sense. That's yet another reason why the only sane and rational choice is to vote for your freedom and vote Libertarian.

Sally Alberts: The Hillarbillies are no better. Yes, America has gone mad. And you can blame both Democrats and Republicans for it, because they both are guilty of causing it and continuing it.

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Posted by Tannim on 08/24/2016 at 3:23 PM

Re: “ColoradoCare, Donald Trump, Palmer Park improvements, and more

Jerry Fallwell Jr. and the rest of you churches involved in our politics I have one thing to say to you: PAY YOUR TAXES!

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Posted by longtooth on 08/24/2016 at 10:21 AM

Re: “Next big (city) election looms just eight months away

Dream on about young people on council. To do this job well with both council and utilities board responsibilities, our current reps put in a nearly full time effort. At $6250/year that works out to far less than minimum wage. In 2013, voters decided in a landslide that they didn't want to pay any more for this job, and here we are with a large group of retirees who can actually make the time commitment. It is unreasonable to expect a young person to be able to pay for food, rent, student loans, and generally support their family while also basically volunteering full-time to govern our city and utility company. Expect "Geezer City" to be the norm for a while.

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Posted by Gabe Caunt on 08/23/2016 at 5:53 AM

Re: “That's a lot of guns

Did the shitty sage hire these morons to waste time? Mine, yours, whoever, to cover his lack of rational thought and myopic view up his rear end?
Nobody will learn from this column or the weekly rag itself and it is easy to see that- unless you were born yesterday. You will learn to hate Douglas Bruce and not know who he is or was and end it with a preposition. You will not really learn about Wyatt Earp but will have assumptions instead. You will not learn that police carry firearms because they are sane, noble and deserving. They protect themselves with firearms. And kill citizens that pose a threat of any sort, that which will be judged at that moment. They do not consider the fear they instill to be a factor. Police are the sole possessors of sound judgement, citizens are not possessing of anything but drugs and guilt. And drugs are bad, mmmmkay, don't drugs mmmmkay, if you do drugs you're bad mmmmkay....
Earp was in law enforcement and protected the saloons and brothels that he owned. He disallowed open and concealed carry and that is understandable, all pimps that run things do not want to be challenged, they just want the citizen's money. Politicians and law enforcement ran everything. There was never a "stand in the street" gunfight, face to face, one on one. That is all myth except for the OK Corral where a dozen men settled a beef with firearms. The Earp's of course were on one side of that shooting, the side of the badge, law and order, The other side? Who cares, they lost. Not trained, just cowboys... you know, assholes with guns. Earp was a sociopath and sociopaths shoot dogs. Then they might tell you it was for the public good but they do not have to tell you anything at all. That's where we are now.

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Posted by Robert Wyman on 08/23/2016 at 1:26 AM

Re: “Next big (city) election looms just eight months away

Woo! Bring on the new blood to join Gaebler and Murray!

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