William Nat - I read the link, with all of its comments. I have to consider the source. We can all cherry-pick from whatever we choose, but that doesn't mean it has any more credibility than the Disney Channel. You and your fear cannot stop good, honest human beings from choosing when and how to end their suffering. I have done the same for many of my animal companions and I would expect, as a human being, that the same options would be available to me and mine. If you disagree then take the Nancy Reagan approach when it cones your time - "Just say no". The same goes for gay marriage, by the way.
Write the word CHOICE in capital letters - your best block print - and then stand in front of a mirror. Face the paper toward you so it reads correctly; then take the paper and turn it upside down and toward the mirror. Tell me what you see, and what it makes you think.
This year, California woman Stephanie Packer was denied treatment because legal suicide was available!
Watch what happened to this woman's husband:
You think this is impossible?
As luck would have it Andrew both of this elections leading candidates are going to keep you gainfully employed for a long time to come. Hopefully, one day you will realize that being a bullet catcher for the military industrial complex is a pretty crappy way to make a living.
Andy's job includes firing on civilians. Hooray. The military is told to vote fortrump just like new life church...what a joke.
Dave is a great friend to many and an inspiration to all! Good job!
I guess they are attempting to horn in on the Koch Bros. territory!
Thanks, Andrew for putting a real face to the reason my father, a career military man, said that the military should not be allowed to vote because they vote for job security. We are not a militaristic society - if we were there would be more than a fraction of a percent of our population in the military.
I'm a Vietnam vet - I joined and served willingly until I got to Vietnam. I then began to understand what that war was about, and it was mainly about money, and the resources of the region that we had interests in. All wars are like that.
Mr. Williams, suicide might be a crime in most jurisdictions, but as somewhere someone said - there have been no known prosecutions. You will not be able to dictate how I end my life when my pain becomes too severe, or when my life has no quality. If you base your argument on your god's wish that everyone live out their life 'naturally', regardless of their circumstances, then yours is a religious argument - keep it out of government. My life. My choice.
I, too, have read this bill - and I think you are promoting fear and suspicion where none really exists. I have also looked at the Oregon law with regard to litigation and complaints of other chicanery. I have, as of yet, found nothing to indicate that this law on their books for the last 2 decades has done anything except make it possible to die with dignity.
I watched my mother suffer and die from the ravages of colon cancer that spread to her pancreas. My heartfelt sympathies for your loss - but you are incorrect about this measure.
The Colorado promoters of assisted suicide are guilty of false advertising. Their bills do not deliver as promised. If they are really supporting individual choices and rights they would provide an ordinary witness to the self administration of the lethal dose. Without a witness they are allowing forced euthanasia. I learned after caring for my wife's last 18 months of declining autonomy. I learned that you can work on 4 hours sleep. I am focused on how this Prop 106 is written, it's omissions and how it could be administered to my wife.
Colorado Prop 106 provides no ordinary witness to the self-administration of poison.
Even as the promoters have inundated us with their chant that the lethal dose must be self-administered and mentioned it 9 times in their 11 page Prop 106 they do not provide an ordinary witness to the act. That omission effectively eviscerates all of the so called safeguards. The difference between having a witness to "self administration" and no witness is that one honors individual rights and the other is non voluntary euthanasia. A promoter was once asked "why don't you just legalize euthanasia?" He said "the public is not ready to accept euthanasia."
The process seems to be full of requirements on the front end up until the script is written. Then an heir can pick up the script and administer it without oversight. Know that only 2% of the doctors have attended these events in other states.
Even the front end requirements have fatal flaws. A predatory heir may be a witness to the initial request along with a staff member of the facility. Does that sound like good public policy?
The rest of the family is not required to be contacted. And everyone involved gets instant immunity. The death certificate is falsified by this law which makes it impossible to prosecute a murder when the death certificate states the underlying illness is the cause of death. There really is no transparent reason not to post poison as the cause.
This bill Final #145 Article 48 provides that a predatory heir can facilitate the signup process, murder the individual and receive immunity all before the rest of the family is notified. This is neither reasonable nor prudent public policy. This is dangerous public policy that puts the entire population (all ages) at risk of exploitation by the medical-industrial-complex, organ traffickers and predatory heirs.
I encourage people to read the Oregon model bill before taking a, or expounding on their position. We will agree no matter our starting position that this Prop 106 does not deliver.
This bill is not the one.
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Good man. Sad loss.
Robert, In all due respect, disagreement is welcomed and encouraged. But insults and name-calling diminish the credibility of one's argument.
Michael, Carolyn, Doug, Janet, Ben: Thank you and ditto.
Vietnamized, you have some screws loose and some that are sheared clean off. Your stories become more convoluted every week and abound with contradictions. Then the stuff you make up is absurd. You have found your rightful place though -Colorado Springs and The CS Indy- brought to you by dopers... And I have never seen a ballot wherein I could vote for war. Why vote when your fearless leaders use executive power to trump your Rights, cancel your vote and insinuate you are stupid?
Mr K, inclusiveness is the Christian way...I wonder why the good Christian citizens of Colorado Springs will recoil in horror at the idea of a raft of non-white, non-Christian immigrants showing up and reminding us how to strive to be better.
The world's population is already in population overshoot - too many people, too little food, water, oil wars with innocents in the way (collateral damage is a word that makes me physically ill)
Your thoughtful posts give me hope that some of the professed arch-conservatives might just listen in church or understand what they read in their Bibles and finally get the picture that we really all are in this together.
A statesman? That would be a relief...and a novelty.
I particularly like TINKLE-down economics, where Trump and his buddies stand on tall building and pee on all of us while laughing!
Having been absent from Colorado and the Springs for the majority of her tenure I don't know what she has actually been a part of...but in looking at the county and city infrastructures, the problems with water, Fountain Creek, etc, then maybe retirement would be best for all.
And just how do you think, or suspect (or whatever it is you call your thought process) that Sharia law is coming to a nice little, well-armed, rabidly evangelical burg like Colorado Springs, bobo?
Bobo, you are a perfect example of what damage that ignorant, poison spewing mysogynist Trump has done. I am sorry for you! It is a terrible thing leaving in fear.
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