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Re: “Magpul's next move”
Right from the start you lose the argument. If you have to demean those whose position is opposed to yours in order to set up your talking points, you automatically create the perception that the argument is too weak to stand on its own merits.
Of course you can argue that you were just using "humor" to make your point. Here is a tip for you. Humor is generally regarded as being, you know, FUNNY. You might want to keep that in mind.
The only proposed law running frantically through the panic driven Colorado Legislature that could possibly have any effect on future shootings is the bill requiring mental health care providers to inform the authorities if they believe a patient is a possible danger to the public. That certainly could have prevented the Aurora theater shooting. The rest of it is just feelgood foolishness that will do nothing to the criminal and mentally ill segments of society. But they aren't the ones your afraid of, are they?
Posted by
Richard M. Shirley
on 03/01/2013 at 6:15 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Thank you Rich. There's nothing more satisfying than annoying a bunch of trigger-happy crackers. Yes, we enlightened progressives ARE intolerant of the continued availability of high-power devices and multiple-round magazines whose sole purpose is to destroy. And the proposed gun-control laws will not stop all of the mass killings. But just as speed limits reduce but don't eliminate deaths on the highways the gun laws MAY help to control the slaughter. When the city posted a 25 MPH speed limit in my neighborhood that caused a significant drop in fatalities at a blind corner, I didn't see outraged comments like "I have a PhD in Quantum Mechanics with a 7-figure stock portfolio and I have the God-given right to take that curve at 80 MPH as a law-abiding car owner". And, no, I don’t think many of you have more money than Rich. Trust me on this.
Posted by
rfk64
on 02/28/2013 at 8:15 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
ROFLMFAO...Rich, nice rant, seems you stuck a stick in an old septic tank and a bunch of key board savvy turds stuck to it.....keep up the good fight.
If you haven't yet please check out the blog Stonekettle Station, the arguments regarding the insanity of the NRA and the Second Amendment loons is refreshing.
Oh yeah, Magpul may have to retool a little but they could start making penile implants and still satisfy their current customer base (and their long suffering spouses).
Posted by
Boomer49
on 02/28/2013 at 7:54 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Wow. I had intended to point out that this article is nothing but pathetic asinine drivel and question the intellectual ineptitude of the author, but two dozen post have already beat me to it. My faith in the U.S. citizenry has been partially restored. Bravo everyone.
Posted by
JustJJ
on 02/28/2013 at 5:03 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Rich; Stick with your brand of "bathroom humor" and leave the serious issues to those who can better articulate them.
In every case pointed out in your little rant, the shooters were well educated , came from middle class families, and presumably had all of their teeth.
Hopefully, the closest you ever get to high capacity magazines will be a box of comic books that you can plagiarize for future columns.
Posted by
fdohlin
on 02/28/2013 at 2:15 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Macam; According to "fact check", two pistols and a bushmaster were used in the sandy hook shooting. a shotgun was retrieved from the car trunk.
Posted by
fdohlin
on 02/28/2013 at 2:06 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Ranger Rich needs to buy a glass navel, cause his head is so far up that it will help him see out.
Posted by
4Freedom
on 02/28/2013 at 11:21 AM
Re: “New laws and recommendations for local marijuana”
Estimates show that marijuana is America’s number one cash crop. However, marijuana remains untaxed. This is a new source of income for our nation, an income we desperately need.
Over 500 of the nation’s top economic professors have shared their opinion in supporting the removal of prohibition and imposing the taxation and regulation of marijuana as a way to slow the federal deficit.
Marijuana prohibition is costing America upwards of $20 billion annually. The hemp industry would not only create jobs, it would free up court time and jail space for real criminals among many other benefits. The list could go on.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-_tUy6fylQs
Posted by
Pat Shane
on 02/28/2013 at 10:02 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Yes Ranger(sick), let's "dip our toes", shall we? As I read this bill I see, in no way at all, a "ban" on large capacity magazines. http://www.leg.state.co.us/clics/clics2013…
Now as I read it it states "a person may posess a large capacity magazine if he or she owns the large capacity magazine on the effective date of the bill and maintains continuous posession of the large capacity magazine". So if you own some, you keep them. Nobody knows who owns what magazines and when or where they are purchased. They are not registered, and have no production dates on them. This bill is toothless and unenforceable. It is a waste of the taxpayers time and money. Lets say I went to the Cabelas in Kansas and bought some high capacity magazines. Then I drove them back here to Colorado. I would be breaking this law, BUT YOU WOULD HAVE TO PROVE IT. If I don't keep the receipt, you have no idea where I got them. I could say they are some of the ones I already own, if I paid cash and there was no paper trail, no one could prove anything. So all this wailing, and clutching of pearls is for naught. The only thing you have accomplished is making a bunch of magazines I bought for $8.99 worth about $100. The only thing that is more of a waste of time is the drivel Rich just wrote.
Posted by
Stacy in Woodland Park
on 02/28/2013 at 9:24 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Typical liberal. COMPLETELY INTOLERANT YET CLAIMS TO BE TOLERANT. Amazing how Liberals are allowed to stereotype, label, categorize, slander, and defame whole people groups, passing JUDGEMENT based on perceived socio-economic demographics.
This writer is completely ignorant of the gun community, our rights and who some of us are. Many are HIGH INCOME, clean cut, clean living individuals.
Do all homosexual men molest boys and carry aids? Do all black and mexican youths join gangs and commit crime?
Read this guys take on the liberal mind. Great blog rather than this crap here we are commenting on: http://www.michaelzwilliamson.com/blog/ite…
Posted by
DennyDucet
on 02/28/2013 at 9:07 AM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Rich, I will point out that the shooter at sandy hook left the AR-15 in the car. He never used the rifle with the high cap magazines in the school at all. I for one will no longer read this news paper if they let someone write such disrespectful trash.
Posted by
mcam
on 02/27/2013 at 10:57 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
you are an ignorant bigot. first of all, your stereotype of gun owners is laughable. i am a gun owner, a proponent of the 2nd amendment, an owner of a few AR-15s, make a 6 figure salary, own a home, and drive a car worth more than you make in a year. i inherited my love of guns from my father, a vietnam veteran and a cardio-throacic surgeon; a man who saved more lives every year than were taken in all of these tragedies combined.
posting the quote from magpul's website... just FYI, many law enforcement and military personnel use magpul equipment. they rely on this "unfair advantage" to protect you, and your right to spew this bigoted garbage.
and FYI, since you mention columbine, Dylan Klebold fired 96 rounds from his AR-style rifle. each one of them out of a 10 round magazine. so, let's not blame magazine capacity, or magpul, for these outrageous tragedies.
you truly are ignorant and sad, and i'm disappointed that any reputable outlet of actual journalism would even publish this.
Posted by
Sean MacNabb
on 02/27/2013 at 10:57 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
No one needs that much ammunition to "protect their land." People who think someone is coming for them and they need to be ready to launch an attack are delusional and sad.
Posted by
Lydia Green
on 02/27/2013 at 10:25 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
Rich. I hope you get fired. I will never read this news paper again. And no I'm not a red neck. I'm an engineer, I drive a nice car. I have a hot wife with netters teeth. So you can suck it hippie .
Posted by
mcam
on 02/27/2013 at 10:14 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
How many 30 round magazines have ever killed anyone? Zero.
It takes a second or two to change a clip. Both the Newtown shooter and the Aurora Theater shooter changed clips multiple times. Would they not have done this if they only had access to 10 round magazines? In both of these cases, the shooters set out to kill innocent people and would have done so regardless of the magazine size. Banning clips over 15 rounds is no different than banning a large bottle of wine. It's ultimately up to the person using the product to be responsible for their actions.
I believe you are being very simple-minded by correlating high capacity magazines with mass shootings, yet neglecting the cause of these shootings, which is the shooter, not the magazine.
Posted by
Doonan
on 02/27/2013 at 7:31 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
It's pretty safe to say that these comments were amazing.
It's also pretty safe to say that the author of this "article" is racist.
In the major cities where little children [who happen to be minorities so it doesn't matter, right?] are gunned down all the time: you'll be disgusted and surprised to know that assault weapons play almost no part in these murders. These constant yet unadvertised murders.
It's pretty hard to conceal a rifle, but if a criminal wanted to do so.....do you think for even one second that a criminal will even give a single fuck?
I'm afraid not, stupid ass.
Why not go back to your coffee sipping, weed smoking, facebook obsessed, gay rights activist paradise known of as California and stay there?
Oh right.....
Colorado aims to become the same thing thanks to you and your kind.
If you hate these magazines and weapons so much, I have some great news!
Just fucking move then.
California, Illinois, New York, New Jersey, and Hawaii.
Just a few states off the top of my head that restrict the 2nd amendment something fierce.
Enjoy your stay!
Posted by
thebagel
on 02/27/2013 at 7:08 PM
Re: “Tim Leigh and the 52 percenters”
K: so you believe Romney and McCain are fools because MSNBC and their ilk tells you to believe it? Now, I am not saying they were especially good candidates (in my not so humble opinion), but fools? I don't think Obama is a fool. He is rather a pathetically inept president. He is a social democrat skating very close to socialism. He is incompetent in foreign affairs and a complete disaster fiscally. He wouldn't know a budget if it poked him in the eye. He will go down in history as absolutely the very worst president in history for the damage perpetrated on America.
Additionally, why don't you point to one segment of Fox News, other than Hannity, that skews the news to fit their agenda? If you look at your beloved MSNBC, every single one is in the lefty tank. I understand that when you are ideologically poisoned it is very difficult to see rationally let alone objectively.
Posted by
siggie
on 02/27/2013 at 5:45 PM
Re: “Tim Leigh and the 52 percenters”
TejonTech, during Jim Crow red neck fools always passed the test, but no Black man, however intelligent, however educated, ever managed to pass in the deep South.
What is the point of disqualifying fools from voting, when the GOP cannot manage to nominate candidates who are not fools?
Posted by
Mr. K--
on 02/27/2013 at 4:50 PM
Re: “Tim Leigh and the 52 percenters”
K...voting tests are to assure that we are not a country run by fools...which currently is the case.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 02/27/2013 at 4:15 PM
Re: “Magpul's next move”
rfk64 - it would appear, in your self-satisfied state of euphoria brought on by your 'progressive enlightenment', you fail completely in reading comprehension. I have scanned most of the posts re little richie and find only "worststoryever" to mention anything about money. Not sure what that would lend to the argument anyway. My guess is, if indeed Toshes has some wealth, it was either inherited or procured through the lottery. He has shown no special ability to have earned it himself.
As to "trusting" you at your word, highly unlikely.