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Re: “Hiking Rampart Range Road

Not sure why there is such a fascination with calling Longitude and Latitude "GPS Coordinates", they were around a long time before GPS was even a scientific wet dream. Most topo maps will have the graduations clearly marked on them and even a "old timer" with a topo map and compass is able to find the coordinates.

A word though, regarding the coordinates: People must understand the formats used, and there are several. The one Bob used here is often called Degrees with Decimal Minutes. The other two popular formats are Decimal Degrees and Degrees, Minutes, Seconds.

Let's take for example the Lat/Long for Ormes Peak. Bob gives it as N 38° 57.041, W 104° 56.099, giving the hemisphere first (N = North, W = West), then the Degrees(°), and then the Minutes out to three decimals (leaving off the Minute symbol of ').

In Degrees, Minutes, Seconds, this would be N 38° 57' 2.46", W 104° 56' 5.94", where it is Hemisphere, Degrees (°), Minutes ('), and then Seconds out to two decimals (").

In Decimal Degrees it would look like N 38.950683°, W 104.934983° (or as 38.950683°, -104.934983°).

The proper use of the °, ', and " symbols will give helpful indications are to which format is being used.

When people do not pay attention, they can do things like punch the numbers in from a different format. If we were punch in Bob's coordinates as Degrees, Minutes, Seconds because that is the way our particular GPS wants them (N 38° 57' 04.1", W 104° 56' 09.9"), in this case we would only be about 120 yards off. Sometimes these errors can result in being MANY MILES off.

So, KNOW THE FORMATS and KNOW YOUR EQUIPMENT! When using a GPS, this is a crucial skill, much as is being able to account for declination if using a compass. If you need to convert from one format to another, there are several online systems that will help you.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/03/2014 at 12:08 AM

Re: “Gardner, Williams get business vote

Gardner would like to take credit for resolving the Pinon Canyon controversy, but as someone who's been involved with issue from the early days, I can tell you that he's a Johnnie-come-lately. In spite of his highly touted agricultural roots, he had little to say on the topic of Pinon Canyon expansion until redistricting sensitized him to the concerns of ranchers in Southeastern Colorado. On the other hand, Mark Udall has been engaged with the issue since his days as a congressman. Even though neither Fort Carson or Pinon Canyon were in his district he took an active interest as a member of the Armed Forces committee and required the Army to submit a written justification to Congress explaining their need to expand and take hundreds of thousands of acres in Las Animas County out of agricultural production. The Army failed to present a convincing argument and as a result expansion didn't happen. As a senator, Udall initiated two studies by the Government Accountability Office, both of which disclosed weaknesses and fallacies in the Army's position. Finally he persuaded the Department of the Army to withdraw the waiver which had authorized Fort Carson to acquire 450,000 of land for expansion. Udall has worked for more than eight years to resolve the Pinon Canyon issue. Gardner jumped on the band wagon last year, just in time to try and take credit.

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Posted by Purgatory Pilgrim on 11/01/2014 at 11:36 AM

Re: “Gardner, Williams get business vote

Williams is almost as big an election voter suppression cheat as Balink but the RBA likes the way he cheats elections, so support him. Gardner is an idiot who will tell all of his constituents the LIE that he has changed his mind on personhood for a blastocyst that gives it more rights than the mother and those that vote for him are stupid enough to buy it.

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Posted by CSaction on 11/01/2014 at 7:42 AM

Re: “Annexed tract will bring jobs, city says

Say hello to your new neighbors all you folks on the east side of town!

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Posted by CSIndyReader on 10/31/2014 at 7:00 PM

Re: “Maketa guilty of wrongdoing according to Commissioners' investigation

Everyone mentioned in the report needs to be terminated.

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Posted by CSIndyReader on 10/31/2014 at 6:58 PM

Re: “Annexed tract will bring jobs, city says

this is one of Halliburton's competitors.


I think Weatherford is #3, after Schlumberger and Halliburton.

Posted by Brian Scott on 10/31/2014 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Energy lobbyist in Colorado Springs: 'Win ugly or lose pretty'

since Polis backed down,
withdrawing his ballot measure to get fracking under control,
the need to counter his initiative vanished.

oh. "you might say Polis was elected."
that got my attention.
as if Anschutz & co represent my interests better than Jared.
rich with irony.

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Posted by Brian Scott on 10/31/2014 at 1:23 PM

Re: “Energy lobbyist in Colorado Springs: 'Win ugly or lose pretty'

Typical. Can't wait for the scorched earth chain email campaign so my conservative pals can forward them to me and I can read how we're all going to freeze to death in the dark without their ruinous environmental pillage of the earth. Think not? Look at the poisonous lagoons left behind in Leadville, Canon City, et al.

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Posted by OldCrank on 10/31/2014 at 11:39 AM

Re: “Springs still lacks top-level ER

I was at Penrose twice this year for stents, once in the ER, and they were absolutely wonderful people in every respect. My special appreciation to Nurse Cindy in the cardiac cath unit for skillful handling of the pee bottle when all that saline wanted out the other end....phewwww, talk about tender mercies.....

I recommend Penrose without reservation.

A city this size needs at least one Level 1 Trauma ER - and a Burn Unit too.

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Posted by OldCrank on 10/31/2014 at 11:33 AM

Re: “Ready, set, go ... to college

I also had some mixed feelings at the beginning and even a little bit depressed but I have read about Egyptians who have to fight instead of going to college. Students were always such people who try to change the situation in the country and their methods and views could be quite aggressive however it is much better than to stay totally indifferent. Speaking about the students of most highly developed countries, they are usually more passive and prefer sitting in front of computer screens accomplishing their tasks (check if you one of them) and writing some unanimous posts if they are not satisfied. It is terrible that lots of students will not start a school year and we don`t know what results it can lead to.

Posted by Cindy Mayer on 10/31/2014 at 5:35 AM

Re: “Springs still lacks top-level ER

Penrose was just trying to compete with Memorial when they made their announcement. IMO Penrose is the worst hospital system in Colorado Springs, their employees need empathy training in the ER and not treat people as drug seekers when they are in legitimate pain.

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Posted by Susan McCormick on 10/30/2014 at 9:11 PM

Re: “Maketa guilty of wrongdoing according to Commissioners' investigation

He's just another Bill Clinton or John Edwards.
At least he's not Senator Larry Craig of airport restroom toe tap boogie fame.
Shame on them all.
Shame on women who cavort with such men as a path to hiring or promotion.

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Posted by OldCrank on 10/30/2014 at 5:05 PM

Re: “When the numbers don't work

The ability to write something important and persuade the reader is necessary for every job. That is why students have to write so many essays, research papers and dissertations at school\college - it helps to practice researching and writing skills. For me writing research paper is such a challenging assignment, it was very hard to find information and to clothe my thoughts and conclusions in suitable language! helped me with the paper writing process and I learned lots of tips how to write good paper without errors, but still I'm convinced that writing any paper is a tough task!

Posted by KatyJordan on 10/30/2014 at 7:32 AM

Re: “Opinion: Vote Yes on 1A

Sorry Hiking Bob, but you're wrong. Question 1A specifically says the money will be used to "fund improvements" AND "acquisition of and improvements to open spaces." The primary focus is indeed on the maintenance of existing locations, but the wording also allows for new places to be purchased.

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Posted by Aaron Harrington on 10/29/2014 at 1:59 PM

Re: “The Same Old Slap-n-Tickle

This is just another form of abuse by the Catholic church. They are more into serving the institution at the expense of people--continuing to find ways to make people feel bad about themselves rather than accepting all as children of God.

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Posted by Peggy Dlugos on 10/29/2014 at 10:29 AM

Re: “Annexed tract will bring jobs, city says

so Halliburton has moved its operations off shore to protect all that government money that the crooks darth vadar cheney and bush the torturer gave then in no bid contracts. remember darth vadar cheney was the CEO of Halliburton that owns this plant but changed the name of it just recently.

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Posted by happyfew on 10/29/2014 at 8:25 AM

Re: “Is it funny, or funny?

I dont know if its sad or disturbing that David Letterman admitted to censoring this act, but he played it after Bill Hicks died.…

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Posted by dp72 on 10/28/2014 at 3:50 PM

Re: “Professional Priorities

This blog post has opened up a Pandora's Box for some good discussions, but.................will anyone really step up to discuss and solve these issues publicly without the same old geriatric participants and thinking?

Yes, the politics stinks with a one party town. The populus is aging faster than anyone will admit and is pretty well set in its ways. When a city official says that the city will get on "The Cloud" someday, you know that the community is in trouble. If a small Texas town with a population of 5000 can get on "The Cloud", what is Colorado Springs waiting for?

"A great place for families?" What town, city or berg are you referring? What are the sources for John Olson's 'family' statements? We have the hightest child proverty rate in the state. How many of these "families" can raise children on the wages provided by the Wal-mart economy without SNAP or WIC or Medicad? How many children are on 'subsidiized' or 'free lunch' programs in the multiple school districts in Colorado Springs?

Until the problems of a One Party town, child poverty, building an "exportable economy" that brings money and jobs, relying less on the military/industrial complex (this will take care of its self with the coming downsizing), treating tourism as a "plus business" and not a major funding stream, reducing the foot print of non-profits, and not electing people to state, county, city, and federal offices that embarass Colorado Springs at every turn, then Colorado Springs might have a chance.

Colorado Springs is still a suburb of Mayberry and has village thinking which will keep it where it's at today. What young professional would want to move here under these circumstances when they have Denver, Boulder, Silicon Valley, and miriads of other 'hip' and 'cool' places? Colorado Springs has an image problem and it's well past time to change it or this town will be asking these same questions and have the same problems 20-30-50 years from now.

"Remember, if you can't run with the big dogs, don't get off the porch!"

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Posted by Gary Casimir on 10/28/2014 at 3:27 PM

Re: “Is it funny, or funny?

Dawn French and Emma Chambers were the best female duo since Lucy and Ethel.

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Posted by Vikki Haas Walton on 10/28/2014 at 2:59 PM

Re: “Is it funny, or funny?

I dont think there was any fewer politically satirical comedians in the US in those days. They just stood very little chance of getting on network television. The BBC has always been better than US networks regarding their open mindedness to new ideas and things that would otherwise cause a great deal of angst with our puritanical element.

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Posted by dp72 on 10/28/2014 at 2:53 PM

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