Wednesday, May 22, 2013
Comment Archives: stories: Special Section
Re: “So sue me, Bach says”
Sue his lying ass! I thought the city council controlled the purse strings? If so use the power .
Posted by
Lorne
on 05/15/2013 at 12:36 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
he wants to make a straw man out of Marijuana, to distract people from all the money he has wasted paying off people with golden parachutes.
Posted by
Jayoin
on 05/15/2013 at 11:56 AM
Re: “So sue me, Bach says”
The Mayor has no trouble trying to "change" the charter without a vote from the public when it is giving himself and his administration more power. The charter does need to be reviewed and revised by an independent citizen committee and not one hand selected by Mr. Bach. This should have been thought out and then voted on prior to the Council-Mayor form of government was ever allowed to be put in motion. Wasn't he also against a ballot issue on the last election asking if the City Attorney should be an elected position? So he actively is against anything which may limit his power grab.
Posted by
rms
on 05/15/2013 at 11:18 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
primary employers? and the 86 locally owned and operated medical marijuana centers? they don't count? 86 leases, plus over 140 leased grow operations, that is almost 300 local leases, insurance contracts, hundreds of local jobs, security contracts, packaging, labeling contracts, transportation contracts, and so much more. Bach continues to use the same old tired lies that have been used for over 90 years. For what? Public safety? I'm not sure, but in the last 3 years, I have yet to see 1 single case where a child walked into a marijuana center and purchased cannabis. Let's hope that the city council stands up to this mockery of democracy as proposed by Bach.
Posted by
GoGreenCross.com
on 05/15/2013 at 10:11 AM
Re: “Summer Guide 2013”
i can't read it for some reason...probably operator error but....i keep clicking and i cant find the summer guide :(
Posted by
Chelsea Murphy
on 05/15/2013 at 9:37 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
Whoops- meant to address that to TejonTech
Posted by
anonymice
on 05/15/2013 at 9:24 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
Allencos,
there are reports as studies stating that cannabis is actually a reverse gateway drug, with users less likely to go on (or continue) using 'harder' drugs.
Google is your friend - and remember;
Opinions don't change facts, but facts should change opinions
Posted by
anonymice
on 05/15/2013 at 9:23 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
The REAL public safety issue and threat to everyone is the black market who will benefit from Bach's proposed Ban. If we eliminate legal channels to access this legal substance, we perpetuate criminals and cartels to capitalize on cannabis commerce in Colorado Springs.
If we did not have liquor stores, people would be brewing more beer and wine at home and selling it to others. Liquor licenses help control this commerce through regulated legal structure. Voters want the same thing and think regulation should apply to marijuana retail stores.
We are already low on police resources and in Bach's own words, we will run out of money sooner than later. Combined with the fact that private employers have been on the decline (-10%) along with their tax contributions; we need this new economy to help pay Bach's paycheck.
Comparing pot to porn is low, even for the mayor - but regardless of commodity, legal substances, like marijuana (and porn), have legal commercial mechanisms so that supply may meet demand. The mayor is up against the will of voters on this one who want to regulate marijuana like alcohol and shouldn't argue so strongly for such a weak position.
Posted by
Mark Slaugh
on 05/15/2013 at 9:12 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
Has little Stevie Bach refunded all the sales tax revenue the City has collected the past two years from MMJ? Of course not - what a hypocrite. Go beat your wife, Stevie. Leave the rest of us alone.
Posted by
Ben Dover
on 05/15/2013 at 8:58 AM
Re: “So sue me, Bach says”
How long are we going to allow Bach and his cronies to continue to destroy our city? Like most politicians, he speaks out of both sides of his mouth. It appears that he is losing his memory and at times seems very confused and is very defensive when questioned about his decisions and actions. If Bach is asked a question which requires a truthful answer, he gets very agitated and I have seen news footage where he actually runs away to avoid answering a difficult question that requires honesty. Bach says our budget is stretched and we do not have enough money to cover some of the basic city services, yet he is once again bringing up the idea of a downtown ballpark which will costs millions of dollars to build. I agree with Jack, we do need to change the city charter back to the old system as soon as possible before Bach and Melcher destroy our city, reputation, and economy further.
Posted by
Rose
on 05/15/2013 at 6:16 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
What "public" and whose safety is he talking about? And what do employers have to do with people's personal lifestyle choices? If you don't like it, don't smoke it. Imposing your moral values on others is a low class thing to do.
Posted by
Robert Fog
on 05/15/2013 at 12:04 AM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
I see King Douche Bag is at it again. He is old so maybe the POS will fall over dead.
Posted by
Ronald
on 05/14/2013 at 11:35 PM
Re: “Electric-vehicle charging arrives downtown”
One hour of charging for about 15 miles of driving...rough if you have to run up to Denver for lunch, you'd have to spend the night to fill back up.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/14/2013 at 11:15 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
The liars who claim that legal cannabis is a threat to public safety are themselves a threat to American Liberty -- generations of traitors to our founding ideals made and continue to sustain Prohibition. Those who turned the supposed "land of the free" into the world's leading jailer should be beyond the protection of our laws. They have done far more harm to our country than any other terrorists. How riddled with fascism must Colorado Springs be to elect the likes of Doug Lamborn, Dan May, and Steve Bach?
The sale and taxation of cannabis is a sideshow -- the main issue should be that the General Assembly completely failed to revise the criminal code to reflect the fact that the People Of Colorado just declared that cannabis "should be regulated like alcohol". Violating the Liquor Code (Title 12, Article 47 of the C.R.S.) is a misdemeanor, not the Class 5, Class 4, Class 3, amd even Class 2 felonies for conduct involving cannabis. While supposed activists obsessed about vertical integration and retail sales, the bill supposed to implement the criminal law recommendations of the A64 Task Force (SB13-283) was characterized as the consensus of the Task Force, amd only I testified against it when it first was heard in committee. That bill re-stated all the felonies for cannabis already in Title 18, Article 18 of the C.R.S. -- now, the bill just kicks the issue back to the ineffectual CCJJ for "study". Colorado is charging ahead to license the cultivation, distribution and sales of cannabis by next January while continuing to make felons of its citizens for those same activities, with no plans to stop! Every felony statute against cannabis remains on the books, though police, judges, and most especially, jurors should put a halt to all prosecutions for cannabis until and unless the General Assembly heeds the Constitution and removes felony penalties for cannabis from the Colorado Revised Statutes.
Posted by
Robert Chase
on 05/14/2013 at 10:59 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
John,
And people voted in Obama who is nothing more than a Chicago thug...and as we are seeing a very corrupt man with an anti-American agenda.
MJ is a debilitating gateway drug...and just because the majority of high educated dropouts voted it to be legal, it is still a debilitating gateway drug...and will have exactly the larger effect Bach is saying it will.
At CC We have so many students and faculty smoking dope and then walking into the streets without looking both ways, we are afraid someone is soon going to get run over by an entitled north ender who is also floating on a cloud of dope.
Posted by
TejonTech
on 05/14/2013 at 6:54 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
It was my understanding that legalizing pot meant tax revenue that this city & state desperately needs. Much like alcohol already is. As the mayor is not adverse to taking a drink, even tho many people would not approve. It is not now up to the mayor to regulate due to his own moral objection. He simply does not have to smoke as others chose not to drink any alcohol. And leave the Springs it's revenue stream.
Posted by
allencos
on 05/14/2013 at 5:23 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
The man has an extremely questionable background of domestic abuse, questionable business practices, prior extortion attempts and other miscellaneous character flaws but people vote him anyway.
Posted by
John
on 05/14/2013 at 5:17 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
"... the citizens oughta (sic) be able to weigh in on this...".
The citizens have already weighed-in on this.
Why are they comparing this to porn? A much closer comparison would be alcohol. I don't particularly care for pot and drink very little. I would much rather see the citizens ingesting cannabis than drinking alcohol.
I think the mayor might just be drunk on "Refer Madness".
Posted by
siggie
on 05/14/2013 at 4:45 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
The Mayor appears to have his mind set to ban sale and use. What do you think? Very quick two question on-line survey. Thank you.
http://obsurvey.com/S2.aspx?id=2F350DE0-18…
Posted by
Richard D. Wehner
on 05/14/2013 at 4:13 PM
Re: “Mayor Bach: Recreational marijuana is 'public-safety issue'”
"Gateway" drug -- really? For a majority of people the primary gateway drugs are ALCOHOL and PRESCRIPTION drugs from parent's liquor and medicine cabinets. Methinks someone watched "Reefer Madness" too many times! I really don't understand what these people (Mayor Bach, Dan May, John Suthers, lol, and even TejonTech, etc) are sooooooo afraid of with legalized marijuana use and sale??? I'd rather see alcohol prohibition come back and leave marijuana alone. It's much safer to the population!