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Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

The word you are reaching for, hippyhelper, is "anecdote," not "antidote."

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 10/22/2016 at 11:44 AM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Vietnamized: My position is that you are engaging in insidious innuendo without much in the way of facts to back it up. Thanks for helping shore that up for me.

Your arguments with their overly abundant use of "I" statements and personal antidotes in place of verifiable facts contain an assortment of logical fallacies that any high school student should be able to spot as indicative of a weak argument.

Your entire rhetorical style is a spot on impression of Donald Trump. Are you rocking a spray tan and comb-over as well?

You are endlessly entertaining though.

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Posted by hippyhelper on 10/22/2016 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Once again. Mr/Mrs Vietnam (No Gender snark intended--just unsure of who you are): Absolutely got my butt kicked. I accepted no corporate donations and $14,000 will not overcome $500,000. Proud of my campaign and 3rd place finish with 16% of the votes and the issues that were part of the campaign because of me. Despite the hate messages from detractors, I never once considered any of those I would serve as either deplorable or irredeamable but repeatedly re-affirmed my commitment to serve all citizens.

It's obvious your disdain runs deep and your insults from behind your anonymity are intended to strike a nerve, so I won't indulge your hope for a bite. I simply say that the record will clearly demonstrate the enormous efforts I made to change the Status quo. The record will also clearly show that despite being the only councilmember with a full time job in the private sector with a young family to raise, I nevertheless worked 60 hours per week on council duties and informing my constituents of what was happening inside their city and maintained the best attendance record of any other councilmember. But facts will certainly not be an antidote to the accumulated bile that guides you. As to Hillary Clinton, her private sector job ended with her being precluded from practicing law and her record in the Senate where she served on the majority includes bills she sponsored involving naming post offices and highways and designating historic sites. Her votes supported the invasion of Iraq, the failed stimulus and the bank bailout.

I'll end this little chat here. Don't forget to mail your ballot.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/21/2016 at 4:24 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Actually, hippy helper, I was trying to shore up your position. As for self-aggrandizing and narcissistic, I was clarifying who I am and what my experience level is. How about you?

Joel, is that gender snark all you've got? No wonder you got your butt kicked in the mayoral election. Loud and clear, the people's voice was heard! Your views and support of Trump indicate (at least to me) that you are not satisfied with the way things are, but your experience as an elected official produced what changes for the better. I'm unfamiliar with your record - please enlighten me. To take a page from Trump's playbook, how come you didn't get things changed while you were in office? Did the big, bad good ol' boys network shut you down? Or did your ideas get rejected by your constituents?

4 likes, 10 dislikes
Posted by Vietnamized on 10/21/2016 at 1:34 PM

Re: “2016 Indy endorsements cheat sheet

Cs Indy, obviously backing special interest with their nominations. People, please do your own research, if 71 passes we are are screwed as citizens. Colorado care REPLACES YOUR TAXED EARNINGS IN YOUR PAYCHECKS. They act like its a huge raise, but they don't offer calculations for fiscal savings on paychecks without medical coming out of then, only how much taxes are raised. And I am tired of getting pushed aside medically, with doctors refusing to do the tests to actually figure out what's wrong with me because of my insurance.

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Posted by Tresa Morris on 10/21/2016 at 10:04 AM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Vietnamized: It would have been simpler to just admit you were just piling on baseless b.s..

Your self-aggrandizing, narcissistic posts are always a source of endless entertainment though. Thanks for the chuckles. Keep the faith, you really are one of the "true believers " . Oh.... by they way, only dorks listened to disco in the 80's.....

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Posted by hippyhelper on 10/20/2016 at 7:17 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

I do not know the political leanings of Attila the Hun, but I have heard that Steve Bannon calls himself a "Leninist" and I do know that Lenin was a staunch communist.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 10/20/2016 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Those of us voting for Trump understand why choosing HIM over HER is better for America. Those of us voting for Trump are outraged by HER ACTIONS - past and present. Those of us voting for Trump know what SHE will do as president, while Trump, for all his big-mouthed blundering, magnified by a HER-loving media, is a bit of an unknown.

BTW, commenting on the Indy forum is a privilege, one that imposes on us an obligation to be civil to our fellow bloggers. And those of us who blog under a "pseudo" name are doubly honor bound to avoid attacking the person who expresses an opinion different from ours. Just sayin', folks.

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Posted by curious on 10/20/2016 at 4:38 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Mr. Vietnam, thank you for the vote of confidence. I hadn't considered running again, but your post is making me reconsider. Steve Bannon and Breitbart News are the only ones not in the tank with the corruption of big media. How much evidence do you need? Show me what is baseless. It's all based on pretty well-documented evidence. Is it baseless because your friends on MSNBC said it was?

FYI, I'm actually not a brownshirt, I just bought a Breitbart T-shirt! Furthermore, Attila the Hun's political leanings are far more reflective of the left. Good afternoon, sir, ma'am, whatever you are.

16 likes, 7 dislikes
Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/20/2016 at 4:00 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

The Clinton's beat the Democratic establishment back in the 90's and no one saw it coming or could stop them. The GOP joined in and has done everything in their power to discredit the Clinton's for decades.
The Clinton's are made of greasy steel. Nothing sticks and nothing knocks them down. They are powerful and now rich too. I can understand the hate of them. If you are not also impressed, you're not really looking.

Trump is an adolescent. He was born one step from home, still managed to get thrown out, strike out next and be placed on third again before he had any success. He has zero impulse control and no ability to engage in a rational conversation. He hates everyone.

If you actually think Trump would be better than your drunk uncle or cousin, you are wrong. He would probably be worse.

8 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Larry Burke on 10/20/2016 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Peterson AFB launches commander investigation into religious display

Sometime in the recent past the definition of belief changed. It used to mean acceptance of statements that could not be proven. That has been softened by the cacophony of disagreement from 'believers'. Dad96, you can preach all you want to, but keep it out of my life, my military, my government. It's your business, not mine. Your religion has warts and blemishes like all others - you choose to ignore them. You are in a 'state of bliss' obviously, so nothing anyone can say will change that. I sincerely hope you live your life as you preach - but I get the feeling that you have limitations regarding people who are not like you. If there is a god - and I don't subscribe to that philosophy, then why would he want his creations to choose what religion they would be? Are we not all created equal under his eyes?

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/20/2016 at 1:41 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

hippyhelper, all I made was an observation based on experience - and I said I would be surprised if he didn't test positive. My observations were of a runny nose, of someone trying to clear something from his soft palate area without success, his inability to be calm and still, his lack of control over his impulsive remarks and facial expressions and his dry mouth syndrome, again exhibited last night. I did at no time say that Donald Trump was using cocaine - what I said was that he had the appearance of using cocaine. And I wanted a drug test for both of them.

Spare me the kick back of my own words if you didn't understand them in the first place.

Trump has gotten where he's gotten by insidious innuendo without much in the way of facts to back them up.

Joel, I had a bit of respect for you until that rant. Baseless BS. If you're waiting for judgement day I feel sorry for you - apparently your "life's work" has been to crow abut the wonders of TABOR. Say howdy to Grover Norquist for me. This election is going to be a complete rout. You can vote for that phony if you want to, and you can continue to spout anti-Hillary garbage, but I see you as a subscriber to the new T.Rump TV channel, and marching right along with the rest of the Steve Bannon brownshirts dragging our democracy down. I guess it's to be expected in 'somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun' Colorado Springs. I would be more than happy to reveal myself to you, but that negates the purpose of this venue. I have no desire to run for office, and judging from your experience you probably won't be doing so again, either.

If you admire this man, if you support his specious claims about making America great again by returning to trickle down economics (didn't work the first time, won't work this time), tax breaks for the rich and driving our international bus into the ditch again after we just barely got some traction after the Bush/Cheney disaster, then by all means enthusiastically support him...and question our democratic method of choosing leaders and the time-honored, democratic tradition of accepting the results of the fairest election system in the world. If you support him you undermine our system and have no business in public office ever again.

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Posted by Vietnamized on 10/20/2016 at 1:02 PM

Re: “From here to Hillary, our suggestions for contested races

Julie Endicott for HD20 was your natural choice, Independent. Shame on you for endorsing a dangerous anti-choice candidate who will threaten women's rights to the full spectrum of healthcare we should have access to.

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Posted by Colleen Luckett on 10/19/2016 at 6:11 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

so, as it appears, The White P€nis Party has become the party of the L!mp Dicks. How impotent. And yes, I DID have to go there.

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Posted by longtooth on 10/19/2016 at 4:22 PM

Re: “Casting Spells

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Posted by Jessica Morgan on 10/19/2016 at 4:04 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

If you are "glad" now, Mr. Miller, you must have been ecstatic when you ran for office, to have hundreds of anonymous citizens judging you!

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 10/19/2016 at 2:59 PM

Re: “From here to Hillary, our suggestions for contested races

Agree with C Wilk and Ralph Jacobson above. Indy's endorsement of Terri Carver over Julia Endicott for HD20 looks like a "phone-it-in" job that didn't bother to investigate Carver's positions on several major issues that affect services in our west-side district.

As mentioned, Carver is against Roe v. Wade and Planned Parenthood, so she'll vote to defund PP in favor of regional health centers that don't offer abortion services. That will seriously threaten PP with potential closure--denying more than 8,000 people medical services from Colorado Springs' only Planned Parenthood clinic right here in HD20.

I'd also point out that Julia Endicott attended the reopening of our PP after the horrible shooting in November, whereas our Republican mayor and Terri Carver were nowhere to be found.

Carver's positions on "constitutional rights" and education sound very much like religious or libertarian objections that have led to discrimination against LGBTQ and other minorities, refusal to recognize reasonable gun-control measures, and acceptance of religious influences and presence in public education.

Remember, as HD20 representative, Carver influences state laws on personhood, sex education, school curricula, and other important matters. Her work on human trafficking and Waldo Canyon reconstitution can't substitute for wrong-headedness on other issues that affect many of her constituents.

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Posted by WriterDoc1 on 10/19/2016 at 2:49 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Thanks Joel for your spot-on comments. As Thomas Sowell succinctly said, she's a "thoroughly corrupt liar." Don't screw up, America - this woman is dangerous. Our liberty as free citizens is at stake. Vote for the lesser of the 2 flawed candidates. Vote Trump.

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Posted by curious on 10/19/2016 at 2:10 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

"anyone still sporting a trump bumper sticker can no longer pretend to be religious, moral, an upstanding citizen, non-racist, non-bigoted, non-misogynist, or pretend to be anti rape culture. party over country"

I'm glad a cowardly, anonymous CS Indy poster now is my judge. What an absolute demonstration of the anti-Trump idiocy! It should be a meme. Try to shame decent Americans who don't want law breaking political hacks and criminals in the White House and selecting up to five Supreme Court justices. No wonder he doesn't want to share his name. This kind of rhetoric and factless drivel is yet one more reason that Trump voters don't answer any poll questions.

Trump was not my first or second choice for President, but the picture of The United States he paints is a lot more like the one I'd fight for than the one Hillary Clinton and her legacy of corruption paints. I will enthusiastically cast my vote for him.

The hypocrisy of "never-Trump" and "Hillary no matter what" is astonishing. The very reasons many of this crowd say are why they support her, she immediately abandons when speaking in front of donors in private settings or contemplates taking a donation for her foundation. From the obvious underpayment of women at the CGI, to despots in sub-Saharan Africa that she and her husband supported for their donations who violated every human right they contend to support to their unabashed support of the regimes and powers that would murder all LGBTQ citizens. Supportive of women and children? Publicly demeaning a 12-year-old who was so brutally raped she couldn't bear children and then bragging about getting the perpetrator off? Yep that's anti-rape culture for sure. On judgement day, I don't know how I'll stand, but I'll make it my life's work to make it a good outcome. One things for sure, though: "happyfew" won't be making the call.

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/19/2016 at 2:01 PM

Re: “Few local GOP faithful are willing to say whether they support Trump

Vietnamized: Since you are all about facts, could you provide some evidence for Trumps cocaine use? I'm not a Trump supporter, just a fan of logic over rhetoric and facts over baseless accusations. You are entitled to your own opinion... but not your own facts.

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Posted by hippyhelper on 10/19/2016 at 1:33 PM

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