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Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Your two quotations mean nothing, PacksA9. Suthers did throw a party and Makepeace did release a statement. You are saying that the Independent is biased for reporting these facts instead of squelching them.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/06/2015 at 10:37 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

So Jan Martin is going to run a 'transition team' for Makepeace.

Martin needs a job. Specifically to keep from being completely unemployed. Inquiring minds want to know what's in the cookie jar for this career politician.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/06/2015 at 10:06 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

So Lathen made a radio ad promoting Suthers. It was reported in the Indy several weeks before the election that Lathen said Suthers offered her a job as his chief of staff (?) if she would drop out of the mayorial race and she told him to take a hike. Is Lathen now willing - if not eager - to accept Suther's offer, if, of course, he's still offering?

Lathen needs a job. Specifically, she needs a job that will replace the $100K salary plus benefits she was paid as a county commissioner. Nosy, impolite, politically incorrect inquiring minds want to know what's in the cookie jor for this career politician.

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Posted by curious on 05/06/2015 at 7:55 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

My point in quoting the Makepeace section was not to judge her efforts, but to contrast that fluffy mention what the backhanded accusation the author wrote in Suthers mention.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/06/2015 at 6:22 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

So Makepeace is gathering a team of experienced, respected leaders to bring our city to where it needs to be. Horrors! These are the City Leaders who want to build a downtown stadium in order to jumpstart the gold rush to build skyscrapers. These are the City Leaders who concocted the TIF scheme to get the unwilling and unwitting citizens to pay for the $200M stadium - without a vote - which will benefit WHO other than the developer?

I'd like to see the Indy do a major multi-page article on what the people want to build in the URA. Solicit suggestions from readers as to what WE want. As for me, I'd like local entrepreneurs and young pros to design neighborhoods of small houses for the low income folk working in the restaurants and retail shops and banks and law and dental and doctor offices on Tejon. There is a huge need for small affordable housing in the URA. But there is no need for downtown skyscraper condos and offices for the affluent 5%.

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Posted by curious on 05/06/2015 at 5:57 PM

Re: “Where your stuff goes when it's gone

Spring cleaning in the USA was necessary because of our coal furnaces. My father told me his mother would clear almost everything out of the house and give it a good scrubbing. The entire house had to be wiped down--ceilings, walls, furniture, carpets needed to be hauled out and beat with those pretty antique carpet beaters. The culprit was the coal dust. Our spring cleaning/seasonal purges doesn't necessarily involve coal dust, but springtime is a good excuse to clean/clear out our homes, too.

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Posted by rdee on 05/06/2015 at 5:13 PM

Re: “Suthers out-raises Makepeace again

Here's an interesting example of slanted journalism. I thought this was the 'news' section...

Suthers "finance report also shows the campaign spent $2,136 for his election night watch party, a fancy soirée with lots of tables loaded with food, at The Mining Exchange hotel."

"We need leadership, not a lawyer," Makepeace says in the release, "and as your new leader, I am already beginning to gather a team of experienced, respected leaders to bring our city to where it needs to be..."

Photo of Makepeace smiling, Suthers frowning.

Thumb on the scale much?

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/06/2015 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Sexing up our local democracy

There is ZERO benefit in pushing disinterested and uninformed voters to the polls (or mailbox). If people don't care to educate themselves on the issues and candidates, I'd rather they kept tuned to the latest Kim K antics than to cast a vote influenced by someone who wants to duplicate their own ballot.

Voting has its own immense value. People should not be rewarded with stickers or coupons just because they colored in some ovals at random.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/06/2015 at 4:59 PM

Re: “The Trans-Pacific Partnership could mean more beef imports and natural gas exports

TPP & Global Treaties;
'Schadenfreude' & the Public; Too 'Unenlightened' to Figure out 'The Global Sleight of Mind' Illusion.
- David 'Copper' Smith

Global Treaties Not about How Much Trade, but, How & Who to Trade with and 'Undermine' AIIB.

Individual States & Provinces Jump at Opportunity to: Refuse, or, 'Over Charge' Business Licenses, Raise Targeting Prov./State Taxes, 'Road' Taxes, etc. to Recoup Global Treaties' Suits (plus Earn Lucrative 'Punitive Damages') from Non Good Corporate Citizens (non-Compliant of Prov./State laws), Associated/Support Corps., Securities Exchanges, et al?

The limited number of direct beneficiaries of the CETA, TPP & the other global treaties (ie. the global corporate leaders & their 'preferred' shareholders), are most desperate to keep from the prying, due diligence eyes of the of the potential global un-preferred shareholders' & the harmless NON shareholders.

The fact of the matter is, the flurry of global treaties have very little to do with trade. The treaties are about 'preferred' trading partners who are successfully attempting to legitimize for the signatories of the treaty/'Arrangements', settlements of the TPP's 'contrived' disputes, et al, by enabling the parties to alleged 'disputes' to use non adversarial settlements whereby,

the corporations & preferred shareholders 'merely' shift all of their costs from themselves to the harmless NON shareholder & the un-preferred shareholders, ie. the general public/individual taxpayers.

These costs include the costs of determining:
1) which harmless non shareholders will have to pay corporations & some SHAREHOLDERS ('preferred' SHAREHOLDERS) for the corporations' 'mistakes', contrivances, unrealistic, &/or, any expectations, etc.,
2) how high (win-fall) the punitive penalties, awards, damages, etc. will be
without the harmless NON shareholder being represented throughout the determination
of, not, if the NON shareholders are guilty, but, 'merely' how 'guilty' the harmless NON shareholders are with no means/opportunity to appeal the decisions by way of the Treaties' ('Death-Star-Chamber') new superseding, cyber jurisdiction Tribunals,
3) et al.
For Further Information, see,
'TPP & Global Treaties & Anti AIIB'.
Also see;
'The Submission' to The SUPREME COURT of CANADA:
"The SHAREHOLDERS & Corporations of AMERICA, Australia, Canada, the EU, et al
the harmless Canadian NON shareholders, both; Native & non Native, et al"
'The MERKEL (Chancellor of Germany) Letter; To Sue, or, Be Sued?'
IS HOLLYWOOD PART of the (TPP Global Treaty & Anti AIIB) PROCESS, or, OUT-of-the LOOP, too?
- L.A. Times, Apr. 7, 2015, blog

It may regrettable that the simplest & most basic information & questions that can lead to a much more secure & profitable relationship between the potential signatories of the TPP & China, et al, has not been shared with Defense Secretary Carter for his humble consideration. Perhaps, he may consider answering some of the enclosed questions in order for us to get a better idea of what his understanding is of how the TPP & other Global Treaties can be vastly improved inclusively & thereby, minimize, &/or, eliminate the dangerous problems below that have led some to understand that

'What the TREATY of VERSAILLES was to the 20th century (ie. provided the basis for World War II) PALES in COMPARISON to the TPP, CETA, C-CIT, NAFTA, et al, in the 21st'.

Unless, of course, the long term economic destabilization and subsequent (secret) military weapons development & appropriations are the intent of DefSec Carter, et al, in the secret (Death-Star-Chamber) 'arrangements' of the TPP & the Global Corporate Treaties/Agreements.
But, how many 'savvy' Americans & their global corporate associates are 'poised' to make windfall profits from their international cross investments, 'nest-feathered' lawsuits & preplanned treaty 'arrangements' at the direct expense of the harmless non shareholders, ie. 95% - 99% of America, et al?
While the good sales folks of Wall St. may prefer to tell their 'Enron-able' customers who were also the victims of 'The Preliminary Foray of The Wall St. Meltdown', et al, that it's just some Unions that are fighting back, how much of the Fighting Back of Unions against the Secret, Unethical & Anti-Democratic Arrangements of The Global Treaties' 'Death-Star-Chamber' Tribunals, can be understood in the context of the harmless NON Shareholders, including Union members, fighting to Survive (not 'thrive') Against the Uncaring, 'Profits at Any (body else's) Costs', SHAREHOLDERS & their Colluding, Global Corporate Leaders?
- Wall Street Journal, blog, Mar. 25, 2015


How Many Preferred Shares of TPP, C-CIT, TTIP, CETA, et al, Generated Enterprises are You Selling your Right to Sue the Global Corporate Economy for? 'New' Shareholders Can Over-Rule TPP, CETA, TTIP, et al, Plans?

But, If Not PUTIN; 'The WHITE KNIGHT', then Who Do YOU Want to Bankroll the Saving of the harmless NON shareholders of the World from TPP's, CETA's (TTIP) Secret 'Death-Star-Chamber' Tribunal Penalties?
Will China, Iran, the Muslim World, et al, Support Putin in Suits?
How about Warren Buffett, &/or, the 'coveted' Hong Kong investor, et al?
FULL Article, see;
Please consider sharing the enclosed information & questions with 10 friends who will share it with 10 others...

Posted by David Smith on 05/06/2015 at 12:29 PM

Re: “Ute Pass to stay open, immigration enforcement ends, female cops sue, and more

"At issue is a fitness test adopted in late 2013 that wasn't adjusted for female ability or age, which resulted in them flunking the test."

...I wonder if all the violent offenders got the memo to "adjust for female ability or age".

Or, if I'm trapped in a burning car, both my life and the life of the first-responder may depend on the physical ability of that responder. I could care less if you identify as male, female, both or none; if you are less physically capable you are a liability to the public and your fellow officers.

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Posted by christik on 05/06/2015 at 10:53 AM

Re: “Sexing up our local democracy

Agree with David. It's pointless to vote when you don't like either candidate and/or you don't understand the issues. The Gazette will publish pro-con editorials of 2 informed citizens to inform the uninformed, which is not helpful since both sides put their best foot forward and we don't know what personal stake they have in the issue. What's virtuous about casting an uninformed vote?

And why is it important to increase the percentage of young voters? They'll vote when they have a reason to vote, and not before. If it is important to the political class that the plebes vote, why not use the Chicago ward leaders method of getting out the vote by paying citizens to vote for their candidate. Or city govt - collaborating with civic-minded Starbucks - issues a gift card for 50 free lattes. Or your employer gives you a paid holiday if you present an "I Voted" sticker. Or the elected candidate rebates $20 to every voter. Or whatever it takes to get the young taxpayers to participate in this charade of democracy.

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Posted by curious on 05/06/2015 at 10:46 AM

Re: “The Trans-Pacific Partnership could mean more beef imports and natural gas exports

this trade agreement, like all the others, furthers the interests of multinational corporations while excising costs to the weakest (the citizen taxpayers of all the countries). if they have to seal the agreement for 5 YEARS after implementation (quite unusual), then you can only imagine there is content that is very harmful. unfortunate to those "leaders", wikileaks has it available at;

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Posted by Booday Seus on 05/06/2015 at 10:28 AM

Re: “Sexing up our local democracy

I've been having conversations about this with coworkers the past week (ages 20-40), and I don't think the problem is the ease of voting: more than a few told me that they don't vote because they detest "government." A couple others mentioned that they don't vote because it seems pointless to vote when the influence of moneyed interests is so commanding at all levels. No matter how sexy or convenient it may be to vote, trying to convince anyone to waste a few minutes of their time to satisfy an idealistic notion of duty to a questionable institution is going to be a hard sell.

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Posted by David E on 05/06/2015 at 8:25 AM

Re: “Sexing up our local democracy

The Cursor Cowboy aka David Hughes has been advocating making voting easier and accessible for the mobile generation. Why would the GOP want to give up their hold on power in El Paso County to the mobile generation? Keep calm and pass the Geritol.

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Posted by Solar Sam on 05/06/2015 at 7:00 AM

Re: “Why Helen Collins is innocent, according to Doug Bruce

Bruce's explanation of Collin's involvement is reasonable. What's unreasonable is to assume that Bruce tricked Collin's into acting as a go-between in order to avoid paying the city $7800K, which has now been paid.

City Leaders are determined to remove Collins from representing the people in her district because she opposes their plans to (1) build a useless stadium downtown (2) replace Drake so that skyscrapers planned for the URA will not have to look at chimneys emitting steam (3) use eminent domain to coerce property owners resistant to selling to URA developers (4) allow the people to vote on large "economic development" projects that the people - instead of the developers - will have to pay for and (5) they oppose her ideas that would reduce city regulations and fees that hamper business startups.

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Posted by curious on 05/05/2015 at 12:37 PM

Re: “Defending 'Colorful Colorado' (and fighting Cory Gardner)

Mr. Hazelhurst,
There are numerous inaccuracies in your article. I did note that you made one correction, however several more exist. Yes, the U.S. fish and Wildlife Service manages the Endangered Species Act, not EPA, and they will make the determination if the Greater Sage Grouse is eventually listed. The Gunnison Sage Grouse was actually listed last year and is a small community of birds in a unique ecological environment in west central Colorado. The real story here is about the habitat that Sage Grouse occupy. It's not about hunting limits of the birds. The sage grouse environment is being lost at an alarming rate from grazing, recreational uses and infrastructure development. That is the main concern. AND, yes politics play a role to support corporations that fund these developments.

The Bureau of Land Management ( with the responsibility of protecting the public land of the U.S.) has tasked individual States to demonstrate their conservation efforts to protect the Sage Grouse and their habitat to prevent the U.S Fish and Wildlife from having to list the species under the Endangered Species Act...hence Mr.Gardnerer's bill introduction. If the Sage Grouse is eventually listed --- there will be no oil & gas development, no grazing, no transmission via power lines or pipelines in or near their protected habitat.

In reality, the State of Colorado needs a plan to balance commercial development and protection of the environment in respect to these "damn" Sage Grouse, which really means their habitat. Without their habitat, there will be no Sage Grouse essentially. Natural evolution? Maybe. My beef is the amount of money that is spent on protecting this habitat, could feed all the school age children that go without breakfast and dinner across Colorado for a year. There has to be a balance between development, use of the land, protection/conservation of the habitat, and opportunities for continued recreation on public lands for the bill to be successful. Good luck Mr. Gardner...meanwhile children go hungry because government entities will continue to extort money out of corporations to support the research for the Sage Grouse.

I'm not generally in favor of Republican agenda's but this one might actually have some traction.

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Posted by Life is a Slice of Pie on 05/04/2015 at 8:55 PM

Re: “Where the races live in Colorado Springs

Have even known some Hispanics who were Asian.

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Posted by Odin on 05/04/2015 at 7:55 PM

Re: “Where the races live in Colorado Springs

"Hispanic" is not a race. Hispanic/Latino is a ethnic/linguistic group. Most Hispanics are white and/or American Indian, though some are Black. We (Hispanics) run into this all the time when filling out forms, census surveys, etc. where demographic info is gathered.

BTW, self-segregation is a well documented phenomenon.

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Posted by Dave H on 05/04/2015 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Ranch Foods buys Federal - expansion underway

Is their commitment to Public Market still in place?

Posted by Lalahartma on 05/04/2015 at 9:42 AM

Re: “Ad responds to pastor down on LGBT citizens

Actually, those are not my words.

"Marriage has got historic, religious and moral content that goes back to the beginning of time and I think a marriage is as a marriage has always been, between a man and a woman." - Hillary Clinton

"I believe that marriage is the union between a man and a woman. Now for me as a Christian, its also a sacred union. God is in the mix." -Barack Obama

My point was never against marriage anyway. I just threw that in because of those here hating on Christians. My point was the pastor's ad had merit.

Eich donated money to a PAC, not a smear campaign. If you call him intolerant, you also have to indict the majority of CA voters who passed Prop 8. You also have to indict Hillary and Barry as those were their views at the time.

From USA Today -"Andrew Sullivan, a prominent gay blogger, railed against the pressure that led to [Eich's] resignation. 'You want to squander the real gains we have made by argument and engagement by becoming just as intolerant of others' views as the Christians?,' he asked. 'You've just found a great way to do this. It's a bad, self-inflicted blow. And all of us will come to regret it."

So, how did you enjoy being blackballed? Sounds like it put you in the mood to pay it forward.

Bakers and photographers have been fined and prevented from conducting business as they see fit by extremist judges. Fail to comply with LGBT tyranny and you go to jail and/or your assets are seized.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 05/03/2015 at 8:31 PM

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