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Re: “Confederate-flag burning scheduled for Fourth of July

As of 6/16/2015, how many Indy readers were seething mad because a Confederate battle flag hung on public display at the South Carolina capitol? How many Indy readers boycotted 'The Dukes Of Hazzard' because of a Confederate flag painted the roof of the General Lee? My bet on both counts is - exactly zero.

K says - "It had nothing to do with Black on Black crime or Black on White crime."

K is exactly right on the black on white part. While horrible examples are a weekly occurrence (see my link above), this class of crime does not fit Ms Cameron's or the left's narrative. Quick, broom these stories from the headlines!

But the interview contained two specific quotes involving crime against blacks:

"This is for those that would take up that symbol and bring about destruction on the lives and properties of blacks and [other] minorities."

"it's simply us getting together and reiterating the fact that black lives in fact matter."

If black lives truly matter to Ms Cameron and her flag burning friends, why is the most statistically relevant classification of "destruction on the lives and properties of blacks" not fair game for discussion? That classification would be inner city black on black crime.

K says - "...had nothing to do with Chicago or Baltimore."

Reporter Crawford brought Chicago into the story when he quoted professional flag burners, 'Chicago Rising'. So I continued the thread by citing Chicago's black on black crime numbers for the same Independence Day weekend that Ms Cameron was supposedly fighting for and end to crime on blacks. I brought in Baltimore numbers because that's another venue where black lives supposedly matter. For some strange reason, Ms Cameron completely ignored the inconvenient truth of these numbers. Reporter Crawford failed to ask the most obvious of follow up questions. Nor did I see a question from Crawford asking what flag motivates inner city blacks to kill one another.

Ms Cameron had no problem casting aspersions at local Republican government and the center-right majority of El Paso county. Again, Crawford followed the pillow-soft approach and ignored the point that Republicans were the ones willing to bring it down and Democrats were the ones who put it up.

What neither Cameron nor Crawford want to discuss is the Confederate flag issue is another in a long line diversions keeping us addressing the root causes for statistically relevant crime against blacks.

How is a poor leftist tool supposed to distract everyone with all these facts in the way?!

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 11:05 PM

Re: “Saint Motel follow in the steps of Silversun Pickups and Benny Goodman

got that dumb jazz coverage out of the way for another year.

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Posted by Johnny Quest on 07/13/2015 at 9:27 PM

Re: “Confederate-flag burning scheduled for Fourth of July

Watching the flag come down last Friday on the news was a very moving experience and had me wishing I could have been there in person.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/13/2015 at 8:52 PM

Re: “Confederate-flag burning scheduled for Fourth of July

"Maybe it never had anything to do with the Confederate flag after all?"

The demonstration organized by Ms. Cameron had nothing to do with Chicago or Baltimore. It had nothing to do with Black on Black crime or Black on White crime. The only thing it had anything to do with was showing support for getting rid of the Confederate Battle Flag from the statehouse grounds in South Carolina. The flag would probably have come down anyway, without any visible support from Colorado Springs, but Ms. Cameron was on the right side of history.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/13/2015 at 8:49 PM

Re: “Lessons still unlearned

Carol Cromie, the neighborhoods do have coalitions and even a council. Meetings for community input are held and very under attended. Mostly because the people are listened too but not heard. Also with your ideals a community without money would just have bad streets and drive down the property values because you are asking them to pay above and beyond regular taxes.

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Posted by TruB on 07/13/2015 at 6:25 PM

Re: “Clark named President of National Association of Counties

In spite of the unhappy few uninformed voters that make up some of Indy readership, let me wish you best of luck in your new role.

Congrats Sallie. I know you put in plenty of hours on our behalf.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 5:10 PM

Re: “Clark named President of National Association of Counties

too bad she had to use deceit and underhanded politics to gain her way into a third term... unethical, shameful and undue of any respect following her horrible third term shenanigans.

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Posted by happyfew on 07/13/2015 at 4:36 PM

Re: “Benny's Restaurant & Lounge

This was The WORST experience i have ever witnessed in a biker bar ! I saw a bouncer wearing a Kilt Pick up a 5ft tall woman and carry her and drop her for NO reason I was watching the whole thing ! I own 2 such bars in Texas and I have seen & delt with alot of lawsuits ! This one is a huge liability & i hope the woman goes to authorities & a Attorney ! She should also fear for her safety ! I was a witness to it and called the police to let them know i was a witness and live out of state but will come back if needed to STOP this man !

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Posted by Barownertravel on 07/13/2015 at 1:35 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

For some reason, links shortened by Bitly don't work consistently. Here's the full link:

http://nypost.com/2015/07/06/bystanders-la…

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 11:45 AM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

One of the things that make 9mm pistols great for concealed carry is their magazine capacity. A standard Smith & Wesson M&P holds 17+1. A Springfield XDm holds 19+1. Glock makes a magazine that holds a whopping 33 rounds of hollow point personal safety!

None of those magazines hold enough to have helped this poor Cincinnatti man...

"...it was like 40 v. 1. I saw 40 v. 1, it was 40 black youths stomping the crap out of one unlucky male, white. He didn’t do anything to deserve this beating except be white."

http://bit.ly/1K1TDoW

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 11:38 AM

Re: “Lessons still unlearned

Fort Collins and Colorado Springs are nearly identical. Both cities have a large amount of federal employees, both have beautiful natural amenities, both are the same distance from Denver and DIA and UCCS is quickly growing in enrollment and available degree offerings that can compete with CSU. So why are they booming and we arent? Simple. People in Fort Collins pay much more in property taxes and those funds allow the city to maintain its facilities in a way that makes the city attractive to potential employers and potential students. If you want people to want to be here, we have to prove that we give a crap about the state of this citiy's facilities.

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Posted by dp72 on 07/13/2015 at 11:11 AM

Re: “Confederate-flag burning scheduled for Fourth of July

Thanks to the Republicans in South Carolina government as of last Friday, the Confederate flag no longer flies at the state capitol.

The Chicago Sun-Times reports 30 shootings and at least 3 deaths since the flag came down. A woman and her toddler were attacked near the Univ of Chicago by a black gang 'for being white'. http://abc7.ws/1M6y3QM

The Baltimore Sun reports 10 shootings and at least 3 deaths last weekend as well.

SC may have taken the Confederate battle flag down. But blacks still died at the hands of other blacks. Blacks still attacked whites for being white.

I wonder if reporter Crawford plans a follow up? Last weekend's stats sure demolished the premise Ms Cameron's publicity stunt.

Maybe it never had anything to do with the Confederate flag after all?

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Posted by PacksA9 on 07/13/2015 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Breaking the cycle

How much time is spent on these evaluation? It has to be less then a few minutes.

Posted by Carl P on 07/13/2015 at 10:58 AM

Re: “Hello old friend, welcome back!

Thanks, folks! Football is certainly a passion topic for me! Glad you enjoyed the read.

Posted by Melchett on 07/12/2015 at 10:42 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

Dave I have no idea what the hell your trying to say training in any field dont just vanish. I would call on a retired Military man to watch my back long before I would some good old boys kid from who knows where. My god man I can remember rebuilding my first car a 1950 Pontiac in 1976 havent done one since then but bet I could. Besides Please tell how you know her training had stopped that she may not have been as sharp.She was however working armed security she did stop the fella when everyone else was running around like hens with no heads. How do you know her training had lapsed? You are the one that said she was fired because shes gay I brought up the FACT it was after the shooting not before and she was gay the whole time Im sure she didnt all of a sudden turn gay after the incident. To much of a coincidence not to call it as I see it on both counts. Looking in a mirror and pretending its a window accomplishes nothing. Full compliance and enforcement of the laws on the books would result in positive results. But as long as certain laws are ignored money pours in from the lobby in Washington some rights will be brainwashed into the public while others are taken right out from under there nose.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 07/12/2015 at 3:37 PM

Re: “Mann principal takes leave

I attended Mann Middle School years ago; Joshua Carrier's office was directly across the hall from Scott Stanec's, and it's impossible to comprehend how Carrier's examinations could have gone on for so long without Stanec noticing something was amiss. What was going on with wrestling at the school anyway...so many of the school officials and educators who looked the other way were directly involved with the wrestling program--why?? I spoke with a child who was directly involved in this matter; he told me that Carrier would stand and watch students during P.E. classes...and that Stanec would be right there by his side--they were inseparable, according to my source. So as far as I am concerned, Zubek was right on...and honestly, I think neither the Gazette nor the Independent ever hit the Carrier story hard enough.

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Posted by Spydra 1 on 07/12/2015 at 2:49 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Dave the training that is ten years or two years is the basic training that is taught and used to this day."

The training quires practice to remain proficient.

" Fired for being gay after the fact is a cop out "

It completely destroys your assertion that she was fired because she shot the gunman.

"How is training perishable?"

Did you honestly just ask that?

" Is a 20 year man in the Army less prepared then the 2 year man come on."

IF you were in the Army, then you would know that training is CONSTANTLY being done and re-done so that people stay proficient and knowledgeable.

"As far as back ground checks if enforced and used by all involved including those of you who have the mind set of the old west does address mental ability of someone trying to buy a firearm. "

Can you try that again, this time in English?

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Posted by Dave H on 07/12/2015 at 2:14 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Keeping that list (that contains NO behaviors and really isn't root causes) " -- TruB

Your willful ignorance is truly amazing.

"the ethics of claiming the evidence of a movie theater was chosen for any other reason than the movie that was playing. "

The movie was playing in almost every theater in the metro area. It has been established that he surveyed multiple theaters before choosing that one, which does not appear to have been chosen for convenience.

"the glorification of violence by saying a gunman was stopped in a crowd without listing a city name or way to verify this event. Most likely because again they were off duty LEO."

There have been numerous incidents where gunmen were stopped by people who were not off duty police. Please, do at least a little research.

" People get snarky "

Looked in the mirror lately?

"The how to improve society part because people have different morals. "

I know, it is far easier for lazy people to focus on a tangible object and pass feel-good laws then it is to enact any kind of meaningful change.

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Posted by Dave H on 07/12/2015 at 2:07 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

"Up until 1981 Colorado was a “may issue” state.
Today Colorado is a “shall issue” state. " - asawatcher

Sorry, but your dates are incorrect. Colorado enacted shall issue in 2003. Showing once again you do not know what you are talking about. And BTW, compared to 2002, our state homicide rates have generally been decreasing.

"You apparently don’t know how old I am."

Nor do I really care. Would you like a medal, or a chest to pin it on?

" People got arrested for carrying a concealed weapon, and for no other reason. Today, nobody is arrested for carrying a concealed weapon "

Incorrect yet again. People get arrested and convicted of carrying concealed even today. Not talking about illegal possession, I am talking about carrying concealed.

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Posted by Dave H on 07/12/2015 at 1:59 PM

Re: “Guns and baseball, gay rights, the Manitou Incline, and more

Ahhh, the ol' society needs fixing.

Keeping that list (that contains NO behaviors and really isn't root causes) in mind let's ask about:
the ethics of claiming the evidence of a movie theater was chosen for any other reason than the movie that was playing.
the glorification of violence by saying a gunman was stopped in a crowd without listing a city name or way to verify this event. Most likely because again they were off duty LEO.

"What part is confusing you?" The how to improve society part because people have different morals. People get snarky when pressed for answers and need to make themselves feel bigger by saying someone else failed to prove their point.

In the meantime it stinks for families like Ed's who miss out on ball games, arena concerts, shopping or visits to the library all because of the unproven fear mongering of sitting ducks. Maybe the children also deserve to be taught they can feel safe while the weapons are at home.

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Posted by TruB on 07/12/2015 at 10:11 AM

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