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Re: “Protect the parks, cover the arts, cut the exhaust, and more

vietnamized. I did read the Columbia report. Everyone knows fox news is biased; also read your complaint which was not about political propaganda, but, about which propaganda you prefer. All television news is propaganda. The same propaganda that sent you to Vietnam. Of course you could of done some research, and made a choice not to go kill innocent women and children. Looks like you swung and missed when it really counted. Since you like to keep score how's it feel to be one of the sheeple who facilitated an unjust war? Big difference between fighting the power in an internet forum, and, standing up in real life. Agent Orange 1, you 0!

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Posted by obliosupercat on 09/05/2016 at 11:46 AM

Re: “Protect the parks, cover the arts, cut the exhaust, and more

Vietnamized. All television news is propaganda! Ever think of taking a book to the DMV? Maybe something on how to compose a rhetorical argument that does not reek of cliché and feeble attempts at wit.

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Posted by obliosupercat on 09/04/2016 at 3:59 PM

Re: “Protect the parks, cover the arts, cut the exhaust, and more

The television hurt my feelings..... Someone needs to be held accountable!!!!! I'm calling the ACLU, they'll understand that the world revolves around me!!!!!

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Posted by obliosupercat on 09/01/2016 at 5:14 PM

Re: “UPDATE: CC, FAC offer clarification on Chief Curator change

After decades of hardly even functioning as a museum, the FAC over the last couple years has actually become something to be proud of. Academics spoil the arts every time they get involved. This really is sad news.

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Posted by obliosupercat on 08/30/2016 at 8:51 PM

Re: “Bible approved for AFB desk

It's just a book! Christ on a crutch, can't folks even choose to read whatever they want anymore? You don't have to like what other people choose to read. Books are not dangerous to those who possess critical thinking skills and the self-confidence to think for themselves. Let the man read his fucking book!

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Posted by obliosupercat on 08/25/2016 at 3:32 PM

Re: “Listen to the Jesus bench complaint

asawatcher
Thanks for the civil discourse, it is always enjoyable and informative. Hell, I'll talk about just about anything as long as it stays civil, (of course, I do fail at civility myself more often than I'd like). You've challenged some of my preconceived notions and given me food for thought as well.

As far as I know, there is still no bus to the airport, nor any affordable flights. I usually fly out of Denver. It would seem important if we are trying to attract tourists though. I use public transportation anytime I travel to a major city, prefer it to driving in a unfamiliar place.

Have an awesome day man!

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Posted by obliosupercat on 07/14/2016 at 3:34 PM

Re: “Listen to the Jesus bench complaint

asawatcher,
I understand your point concerning the difference between faith and belief, though it is subtle and related to context. For an agnostic, questions of faith and belief are based solely on material evidence. The agnostic asks the question 'how do I know, what I know?' 'Is my knowledge based on solid evidence, or are they beliefs based on feelings, intuition, hearsay, personal ignorance, or manipulation?' To believe and to know are two different things to an agnostic. I know that hairbrushes exist, based on material evidence. I know that if I don't move my toes to prevent a brick from falling on them it will hurt, I know this based on evidence and experience with heavy things falling. A child only touches a hot stove once, once out of curiosity, after that they have knowledge that it will burn.

As for Leprechauns: My intuition tells me that there is no such thing as magical little beings roaming the earth hiding pots of gold called leprechauns; so I tend to believe that they do not exist; however, I have no evidence as to whether they exist or not, so I don't waste my time making those judgements or claiming knowledge about Leprechauns, much like the question of gods existence.

Concerning your question: Why do theists burden atheism with the theological baggage that theists require to affirm their FAITH? I don't know why theist take that position, anymore than why the woman who I initially responded to feels that some folks "atheist cards should be revoked". I suspect that it may have to do with folks rationalizing their own non-evidence based beliefs. Perhaps it is the ego getting in the way of asking the question in an honest way "What evidence do I have for my beliefs?" Perhaps it is a general distaste for admitting there are just some things that cannot be known. Why do atheists try to lump the agnostic point of view in with their own? Good questions.

From a personal point of view. My experiences with both theists and atheists are very similar, as both groups somehow feel that as an agnostic, I really do share their faith and beliefs, I just need a little convincing, a little rhetoric to push me off the fence. I consider myself agnostic, because neither theism or atheism are a good fit for the way my mind operates, I spent my early life, until my late 30s defining myself as an atheist, at some point it didn't work for me anymore, I wish it did, I miss the certainty I felt. The older I get the more I question my own beliefs, the more I ask myself 'how do I know what I know?' Turns out a person can pick up some bad information over time, and allow it to be incorporated as beliefs in a very unconscious way. Agnosticism is really the scientific method applied to life. Distinct and separate from either theism or atheism.

Theists are theists, atheists are atheists, agnostics are agnostics, and if any of these groups are being offended by a Jesus is Lord bus bench, then the question needs to be asked. Why? This is not a church and state issue, it is a freedom of speech issue. It is not an issue of whether Jesus is truly Lord, its about a place to sit (maybe ponder the nature of faith, belief, and knowledge) while waiting for a bus that is partially funded by advertising to arrive.

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Posted by obliosupercat on 07/14/2016 at 9:52 AM

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