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Re: “Poor people keep going to jail on non-jailable offenses. How do we break the cycle?

jesus would lvoe the way poor people are treated in el paso county

Posted by apathetic on 07/13/2019 at 10:50 PM

Re: “El Paso County inmates say new jail contractor serves inadequate food

who is getting kickback from the new vendor?

Posted by apathetic on 07/13/2019 at 10:42 PM

Re: “Off-roading groups clean up and give back

Many off-road groups including Jeep Patrols and others do a lot of maintanence of our wilderness areas. They often work with forestry officials and others to clear fire trails, clean up trash, do trail reconstruction and maintanence, replace signs, help people who are stuck, etc.

Unfortunately, many "nature" and conservation organizations and companies like REI absolutely abhore off roaders and do everything in their power to limits and ban such activities and groups, much as they also target hunters, even thought hunters contribute more money and manpower to conservation than all other groups combined.

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Posted by Dave Hernandez on 07/11/2019 at 3:36 PM

Re: “Pinned Down

I was in CWC in early to mid 90s I was a violent teenager I was taken down a few times the staff never hurt me if anything I hurt myself and maybe staff. They were helpful and kind
I became close friends with one he was a veteran. While there I did break 9 windows threw a desk bit one staff member. I deserved being restrained never once did any staff just restrain me for no reason at all if they did it was for safety for teens around me as well as theres and mine. I was one of those with anger issues suicidal and violent I think they did well under the circumstances. I've seen kids worse then me too we all deserved what we got.

Posted by Rod Belgum on 07/10/2019 at 2:38 AM

Re: “Off-roading groups clean up and give back

Hey Patrick,
I'm sure ur Mom is gonna be thrilled to read about you 'slidiiiiiiinnnnggggg' down the hill!

Step Dad Andy!

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Posted by Andy Hauk on 07/03/2019 at 10:35 AM

Re: “Off-roading groups clean up and give back

My wife and I are new to the bastards, we did our first run last Sunday and had the best time with the best people. Robert and the others genuinely believe in family and their community. We plan on being part of this family for a long time to come.

Joe Whittle

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Posted by Jwwhittle on 07/03/2019 at 8:06 AM

Re: “Off-roading groups clean up and give back

I participated with this cleanup and was amazed at how much trash is left off Old Stage/Gold Camp road. This past weekend, less than a month after we did the cleanup. We took some guest up Old Stage and showed them around, consequently we drove by the areas we had cleaned up and they were already riddled with trash again! Doesnt even look like we were ever there. Its sad...

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Posted by Jason Smith on 07/03/2019 at 6:23 AM

Re: “Getting away with murder

My son was kill in 2009 at YOS in boulder Colorado I have been trying to move on but I can;t I wish everyday someone with concious will speak up in admit to what happen. Seeking for inmates that was incarcerated at YOS April 19, 2009 my son was only there for 25 days. I agree with the Warden to take all responsibility for my son after his death instead YOS stayed in control by releases my son body to a funeral home of there choice without informing me where his body was sent. I just happen to call a popular funeral home in the springs also as I'm making arrangements as the hospital told me to my surprise I was told my son was already there YOS sent him there in according to the funeral director they sign ob funeral arrangements if his body wasn't claim in that meant cremation. My son was given a autopsy in the coroner retrieved in kept my son entire organ his heart the only reason it was discover was because a second autopsy was perform which that coroner discover. It's so ironic because I read the exact store of the sudden death at another juvenile correction center which was a cover up in the coroner there also remove her son entire heart without consulting with family to know there spiritual beliefs. I'm a mother in I know this murder of my son something isn't right. One clue I retrieve his records in the last input recorded on his records by a women correctional officer stated in her report for the officers on duty was: he still talking mess like we can't here him after that more notes that the day my son as the Warden said fell down. On the report he died after hours exercising (when according to there schedule was writing friends inn love ones time) in got up start coughing pass out the did cpr ambulance came they work on him he died. I have alot more to this story..........................

Posted by Ineedyou09 on 07/03/2019 at 2:13 AM

Re: “What if our opioid crisis is really about isolation?

>>"You create cages, he says, by destroying culture."

And they call it, destroying culture, "progress".

Posted by William Burke on 06/12/2019 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Wommack's pathway to prominence

Is the 13 million in assets his personal wealth, or the total assets of his ministry?
All total, he and his wife together have a yearly salary of $300,000. I know he pays his lower level workers around $14 per hour. More than minimum wage,but not as much as they may need.
I have a problem with people receiving money from God when in fact it is television appearances and book sales. If I am wrong, please enlighten me. The folks who have written here say that his wealth isn't relevant. Isn't it relevant from an early church standpoint when they had everything in common? Do we throw the whole book of James out the window? Please talk about why his wealth isn't relevant.

Posted by Phyllis Meyer Joy on 06/07/2019 at 10:24 AM

Re: “Thousands of legal, highly skilled immigrants, mostly women, could lose the right to work

Thousands of legal, highly skilled immigrants, mostly women, could lose the right to work ? Who the hell cares?

I am much more concerned that thousands of American citizens will lose their jobs because those jobs were given to one of those aforementioned immigrants...

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Posted by LLL B. on 06/05/2019 at 11:59 AM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

Im speaking from the point of view as an experienced audio tech providing sound support for music venues. The cause of the noise complaint (music vs industrial noise) may be different, but the arguments are the same. Trust me, as citizens being disturbed, youre facing an uphill battle. Sorry.

As CS Indy reports the decibel limits in pure, unidentified numbers, those ordinances are completely unenforceable. As I see it, there are two major hurdles to overcome. Let me explain.
1. Noise specifications are stated in level on a certain scale, over a given sampling time. Normally, it is given as XXdBA, or XXdBA (fast) or XXdBA (slow). These are measured on a Sound Pressure Level (SPL) meter.
2. Noise reaching our ears is a blend of all sounds around us. Simply, sticking a SPL meter in the air is now measuring sounds including the BC plant, the highway, the cars on the streets, your bathroom exhaust fan, the wind in the trees, your air conditioner, the neighbors dog.

The Slow and Fast settings refer to the time averaging period. The slow scale will give one a smoother average, but miss something quick like a rim shot on a drum, or a backfiring car (as if that happens anymore) Fast scale will reflect the quick sounds, and the quick silences, making pinning the number down difficult.

What is a decibel scale? Different decibel scales were developed to measure different types of sounds. The most used scales are: unweighted scale, "A" scale, "C" scale. Weighting for a specific scale is a function of frequency. Ill limit this to the "A" scale. "A" scale is the most used one for city ordinances, although it probably is the one least suited for the purpose. The "A" weighting scale was developed to closely mimic the human hearing response. The lower frequencies are averaged in at a lesser weight than are higher frequencies. Using music as an example, the bass frequencies the subwoofer produce contribute less to the overall sound level measure than does a violin.

Depending on the content of the sound, meter readings can vary by 30 decibels or more from unweighted vs the A scale, especially when measuring music content. Now, one may say the fans run continuously, so the sound is always the same. The article talked about changing out 144 fan blades at Bonner Montana, reducing the noise 50-75%. Thats 2-3 decibels. Also ask, did the frequency of the droning change there? If it sounds lower pitched, and was measured on the A scale, it may measure less loud, but may actually be louder due to the A weighting function.

Now, as I mentioned earlier, just sticking a meter in the air and saying the noise came from there is easily defeated in court.

First, SPL meters, professional or not, all use omni-directional microphones - they pick up sound equally from all around. Pointing it at the plant will not isolate just their noise. As sound waves are moving air, the speed and direction of the breeze will have an effect on the reading. Air pressure and humidity levels also affect how sound travels through air. When the residents took their own readings, were all the other variables logged? Hmmm

If it were go to court, one only need ask what is the ambient sound level at this particular location? and How does the decibel reading change when the fans are on? Ok it goes up by how much? Then the defense will ask what scale? Sampling interval (fast or slow or ?? milliseconds?) Is the meter and microphone calibrated? This is a biggie. What is the saying? A man with one meter is sure. A man with two meters is sure of nothing.

Yes. We are affected by environmental sound. Some studies talk about the psyo-acoustic below-human-hearing-thresholds of the beating of the wind farm rotors on the well being of people living near the wind turbines.

Many urban and suburban municipalities have adopted 65dBA for day, and 55dBA for nighttime. An expert for the defense may argue 55 decibels is unreasonably low.

Mixing industrial or light industrial into residential areas will always be a mixed bag. Unwelcome noise degrades quality of life. Best on your endeavors.

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Posted by kxrf on 06/03/2019 at 7:58 PM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

Code enforcement seems to be optional in this city, depending on the whim of the officer, or the influence of the violator. If they respond at all it is usually to say either they haven't personally witnessed a violation therefore it has not occurred, or it doesn't violate their personal interpretation of the code, regardless of the actual wording in the code.
Perhaps they try to avoid writing violations because it means filling out reports, taking measurements, and being available as a witness should this issue go to a hearing.

When the city was ready to approve a go-kart track on North Academy, neighbors brought up the noise issue. The owner of the track had a noise study completed by a Denver firm that showed the karts to be in violation of the noise ordinance. They still approved the kart track based on a loose interpretation of the temporary intermittent noise variance. On another issue, we were told that an RV is allowed to be parked in the front yard, within 12" of the sidewalk, if there are bushes or other obstructions that are closer to the street. Hard as I looked I still haven't found that exception in the code.
Perhaps it is a problem they hope if they ignore it, it will go away. An example of this thinking was when we asked a police officer, at one of the coffee with a cop opportunities a couple years ago, if they were going to do something about the nighttime motorcycle racing on North Academy Blvd. His response, "it's a self mitigating problem, they race, they crash, they stop racing."

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Posted by rangesaf on 06/02/2019 at 9:58 PM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

Between Strawberry Fields, incessant shuttle buses traversing Chey Blvd to 7 Falls, this plant, the Accessory Dwelling Unit ordinance, the Bmoor convention center, C4C projects, etc., residential living is under threat from private businesses using the community as they will, forcing commercial impacts on residential areas. City enforcement of codes is almost non-existent, any development plan goes, often approved by the City Planning staff alone. This reduces our quality of life, the values of our homes. This city needs a new neighborhood organization to truly advocate for preservation of neighborhoods and peaceful enjoyment of our homes. CONO is not making any contribution towards residential concerns, they are too timid and too connected to city government. CONO needs to be replaced with a group that does actually represent neighborhoods and is not afraid to speak up for them. Shoot me an email at if youd be interested in pursuing that.

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Posted by prairie chix on 06/01/2019 at 9:28 AM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

These poor people, I really feel for them and the loss of the quality of their lives, also the value of their homes. Truth is, City Planning and Code Enforcement are way too friendly to businesses, and they impose this misery on neighborhood residents everywhere by failing to hold business owners responsible for mitigating their commercial impacts, as the city code requires.
My advice to the neighbors: buy your own noise meter to take readings and compare them to the noise ordinance.
Fact is, if you are a black or a brown kid driving a souped-up car with a modified muffler, they will pull you over and cite you for a noise violation in an instant. No problem using the noise ordinance then.
The neighbors are right the city should shut this business down until they get the noise nuisance solved. P.S. Dont expect any real help from Councilmember Don Knight, go to Bill Murray, hes not pussy-whipped by Suthers and his crew of pro-business morons......

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Posted by prairie chix on 06/01/2019 at 8:50 AM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

The incessant noise pollution from this BitCoin data mining operation is incredibly insane. Zubeck's story hits it all spot on. Thank you, Pam. In the entire City during the past 17 months, there have been NO citations written for noise violations. How can that be? This particular case took over 7 months before a single citation was finally issued, and only because of pressure from the neighborhood residents. This is indicative of pure and simple neglectful management in the Code Enforcement Department. Maybe an appropriate name for the Code Enforcement Department should be "Don't Worry 'bout a Thing -- It's All OK With Us" Department. It seems to me that there are people in Code Enforcement whose jobs should be on the line for this fiasco. Why did this problem take so long to resolve? What a complete insult to the citizens of Chelsea Glen and an absolute embarrassment for the City of Colorado Springs. Sad indeed.

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Posted by Nimrod Hendrix on 05/31/2019 at 10:06 AM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

Chen is right that the Springs is terrible at planning, and a neighborhood like that should never have been built that close to an industrial zone. That being said, city staff needs to either do their job and enforce the codes, or find other jobs if theyre not up to the task. Their reticence to engage is pitiful. As for Chen, he needs to stop dicking around and hire some professional noise mitigation experts to solve this instead of just stacking crates or haybales or building awnings or whatever other hackneyed piecemeal solution he thinks may work. No more expansion of the operation until this is fixed.

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Posted by Zen on 05/30/2019 at 11:59 PM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

City government seems to have gone schizophrenic. On one hand, it wants to turn a large part of the area near the mountains into a tourist zone with museums and redevelopment of the south Nevada-Cascade corridor. the Drake power plant is seen as an environmental hazard.

Further north and close to the mountains in a "bitcoin mining" operation, large fans discharge not only noise but heat into the environment -- a double dose of environmental pollution for an attempt at universal currency that sounds like the thinking of a bad James Bond villain. It may well eat up all the environmental advancement that is supposed to come from closing Drake.

Meanwhile back at the City Council ranch, the focus is on allowing chickens, baby goats and what is in effect tenement housing in the neighborhoods that sustain the city. My friends in the IT business tell me they have to "mine" for jobs that are largely goverment contracts when the old contracts run out but the Mayor thinks he can find 3-4,000 jobs like that a month for people whose primary interest seems to be bike lanes. Any energy saved from bike lanes is eaten up by the bitcoin heat and noise output.

Major developers play the city like a violin when it comes to construction while individual homeowners are supposed to tolerate sober houses, granny flats, Airbnb, Craigslist and anything else that will destroy neighborhoods if they don't have HOAs. HOAs cover rules cities are supposed to have in place to create safe, good neighborhoods.

It sounds like a job for whatever the current antipsychotic of choice is. It all makes no sense.

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Posted by Clara McKenna on 05/30/2019 at 9:27 AM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

OldCrank from OldGrump:

The ability of the current local leadership, the EDC and the "Mayor" to attract high dollar manufacturing jobs is precedent setting. The GROWTH in local manufacturing jobs for Mayberry from the year 2000 has been a NEGATIVE [13,400] jobs.

But, for a real POSITIVE spin - - one has to recognize that just since this current 'Mayor' has taken office, the number of new manufacturing jobs has increased by over 100 jobs since 2015.

2000 = 25,200
2010 = 11,200
2015 = 11,700
2018 = 11,800

Nummers can be deceiving, manipulated, and displayed to present false appearances - these come from the U.S. Government site below:…

We like "on a roll" or just "floating by on a flat, stale biscuit?" Job attraction is kind of like baking. The dough needs to rise. Can Mayberry get it up and compete?

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Posted by R Wehner on 05/30/2019 at 2:12 AM

Re: “A neighborhood says it’s barely tolerating the constant buzzing from a Bitcoin mining operation

My house backs to this plant. The noise us insane!!!! You cant sit outside at all because its like sticking your head in a hairdryer and having a conversation. You can indeed hear it inside, basement, everywhere. The city simply needs to enforce their own codes and they refuse. Typical. No wonder many of us just give up. We all know what the city is going to do when it comes to business breaking rules vs citizen. Just UGGGG

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Posted by colorado 1 on 05/29/2019 at 6:20 PM

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