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Comment Archives: stories: News: Cover Story

Posted by phake on 11/12/2018 at 4:39 PM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

Whoa! Hold on, you predictable reactives.
It's true that I have only met a very few Christian's in America.
Real Christian's are not consumerist.
Tyrants like Trump are very easy to defeat.
Analyze and mimic his nemisis.
Jim Acosta.
I know you are incapable of a Christian identity, try Acostian.
Watch him interviewed by Colbert.

Posted by phake on 11/12/2018 at 4:38 PM

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Posted by RobertSmith2 on 11/11/2018 at 8:46 PM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

Hi Katy Lynn Davis:

If that was your point, then it's not that it flew over my head. Rather, it's that you failed to make it.

Let me dumb it down for you: Instead of drawing a distinction between Fox and CNN, or calling out the media for picking and choosing which stories to run, you decided to run your key board about Farrakhan in the context of quote you pulled denying the existence of Black Identity Extremists. This was a clear failure on your part to distinguish between black identity extremists and a non-existent "Black Identity Extremists" which is what the article was about.

But hey, thanks for clarifying what it was you meant to say. You may want to change the subject from what the article was about, but you failed to do so.

You're welcome. :-)

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Posted by Huck Mucus on 11/08/2018 at 2:53 PM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

@Huck Mucus,

That whooshing sound you heard was my point flying right over your head.

My point, to make it easy for you, is that the media picks and chooses what "news" to report to us, based on their own political leanings. Read and article from CNN then read an article from Fox News, about the same incident, and you'd think they were about two different incidents. The media loves to write inflammatory articles about right-wing extremest groups, but then looks the other way when it comes to left-wing extremist, except for Fox News, then it is the other way around. Racist by minorities is the elephant in the room that most media organizations simply don't want to mention.

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Posted by Katy Lynn Davis on 11/08/2018 at 1:26 PM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

Mr. K:

I think you are making the same mistake that Katy Lynn Davis made.

You say: "There are indeed "White Identity Extremists" out there" and then you immediately define them as "racists who adhere to a theology called "Christian Identity" which is, . . .".

I think it would be more accurate, and in accord with the point of the article, to say: "There is a theology called 'Christian Identity' whose members believe . . .. They are white identity extremists."

If indeed there is a movement out there called "White Identity Extremists" (by the federal government or through self-identification), then I'd like to see a reference. Maybe there is, but let's see it (not the Urban Dictionary, please).

If we are going to just engage in making up our own shit, then Katy Lynn Davis was correct, for I can easily find examples of black identity extremists out there. These are self-identified groups who's beliefs are extreme and based on black identity. So now I can call them "Black Identity Extremists" and then you and I can argue endlessly about why someone should or should not be deemed a member.

But, as the article opines, there is no Black Identity Extremists except the one some wag in the F.B.I. pulled out of his/her ass. I think "White Identity Extremists" is the same, but I will stand corrected when shown.

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Posted by Huck Mucus on 11/08/2018 at 6:21 AM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

There are indeed "White Identity Extremists" out there. They are racists who adhere to a theology called "Christian Identity" which is, according to Wikipedia, "...a racist, anti-Semitic, and white supremacist interpretation of Christianity which holds that only Germanic, Anglo-Saxon, Celtic, Nordic, Aryan people and those of kindred blood are the descendants of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and hence the descendants of the ancient Israelites." It appears that White racists could not stand the idea that the messiah they worship was actually a Jew, so they deny that modern Jews are descended from Abraham, but they, the White racists, are, which would make Jesus an Aryan. The "historical" justification for all of this nonsense is convoluted and tortured. I will not elaborate on it but anyone who is interested can easily research the subject online.

As the article states, "...the term is part of a politically motivated effort to find an equivalent threat to white supremacists." Evidently, some FBI agents misunderstood the significance of "Identity," taking it to relate simply to the White racists' pride in their own White identity. So, they invented a phony false equivalence called "Black Identity" thinking it would mean Blacks who are proud about their identity as members of the Black race. However the true nature of "Identity" as "Christian Identity" illustrates the absurdity of such a label.

Posted by Mr. K-- on 11/07/2018 at 11:38 PM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

Hi Katy Lynn Davis:

I think you missed the point and mistakenly (I hope) took the capitalized moniker "Black Identity Extremists" out of context. Contrary to your implication, the article did not argue, or even imply there are no black extremists out there. Please go back and re-read the piece, only this time, use your analytic reading skills to discern what the article actually said.

Compare "Unite the Right", "Black Lives Matter", etc. as monikers/movements, with extremist positions. The idea that U.S. agencies are, sua sponte, starting to create labels which lack Federal Register, Code of Federal Regulation, or judicial definitions, and sans public notice and an opportunity to be heard, is troubling indeed. This is especially a concern when these terms can wrangle folks based upon subjective "feelings" of individual law enforcement personnel.

Sure, talking heads and other stupid people on the boob tube and the internet are allowed to toss around terms like "Radical Islam" and "Terrorism" and "I know it when I see it" without parsing any hairs or drawing any distinctions, but we expect better from government. After all, even government was forced define "terrorist", "terrorism", "hate crime" etc. before cranking up the propaganda machine and getting the Reds all hot and bothered. Sure, they did a crappy job of it, but at least the terms are and have been subject to judicial review.

In short, the article was about the F.B.I. creating a term out of thin air to help them do what? There are black extremists our there, yes, but there is no "Black Identity Extremists" out there and the term is not needed to wrangle black extremists who commit crimes. There is ISIS, Al Queda, etc. and there are even radical Islamists, but if there is a "Radical Islam" I have not seen the definition of who it includes or excludes. There are white identity extremists out there but there is no "White Identity Extremists" out there (at least to my knowledge). What the hell is that? Who is included? Who is excluded?

No need to gin up undefined, generalized fear about a color (black, white, whatever) or a term (extreme, un-American, etc.) when crime can be used to define individuals and groups which commit them, self-identified or not.

It's a distinction with a relevant difference and that is what, I think, the article was saying.

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Posted by Huck Mucus on 11/07/2018 at 5:04 PM

Re: “Concrete Couch wants to allow a temporary homeless camp at its new location. But is it a pipe dream?

Thank you Donna Fraier! My name is Gina Dupre. Tamara and I live in one of the old neighborhood houses on the other side of the BSFN Railway tracks, just the other side of Mr. Woods "RENTED" Concrete Couch lot. I have also commented above about the criminal element Mr. Woods has attracted to this smalll, law abiding, tax paying community. I am a retired art teacher and have owned my home for 30 years! My dad helped me build a small studio here where I continue to create my own artwork. I too supported Concrete Couch and his efforts to add to the Springs Downtown, but am disgusted now to see that he has decided to dabble in the homeless when he has no experience or resources to do so. By the way, there are many more capable artists in this city that can be respectively commissioned to create environmental artwork in this area. Mr. Woods, because of your refusal to let the Colorado Springs Hot Line police to do their job, YOU have created grief and danger for this neighborhood! I have never experienced more homeless death, stabbings, over doses, petty theft, yelling, screaming and police and coroner responses behind my house. You are not helping them! We will go to battle with you also. I'm watching right now your tent people climbing up the steep embankment to cross, loitier, and trash up the BSNF tracks property behind our houses. This is a safety issue as well. Along side the fact that my neighbors and I are being threatened, yelled at and frightened by this criminal element you are allowing to camp here.

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Posted by Tamara Egley on 11/07/2018 at 3:29 PM

Re: “The Real Fight Against Fake News: The Top 10 underreported stories of 2017-18

"...the FBI's counterterrorism division produced an intelligence assessment warning of a very different, though actually non-existent, threat: "Black Identity Extremists."

Yeah, sure, there are no black extremists out there.

In other news ( and speaking of under-reported stories)...

Nation of Islam leader Louis Farrakhan, a notorious anti-Semite who recently compared Jewish people to termites, led a "Death to America" chant Sunday during a solidarity trip to Iran. Farrakhan's trip came ahead of the Trump administration's re-implementation of U.S. sanctions against the Islamic Republic on Monday.

Speaking to law school students at the University of Tehran, the 85-year-old Farrakhan said America has never been a democracy, and also led a Death to Israel chant at the end of his talk, according to Iranian news agencies. Video of Farrakhan leading a Death to America chant once again sparked calls for Democratic leaders to distance themselves from the controversial figure. Several prominent Democrats, including former President Barack Obama, have interacted or taken pictures with Farrakhan.

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Posted by Katy Lynn Davis on 11/07/2018 at 12:43 PM

Re: “Concrete Couch wants to allow a temporary homeless camp at its new location. But is it a pipe dream?

Mr. Woods, we were excited to see Concrete Couch take up residence within sight of our business. We even left the homeless campers alone, realizing they need to stay somewhere. We have offered work to half a dozen of them over the summer...not one of them showed up! Poor people generally make poor decisions to arrive at their station in life. My husband and sister were homeless at age 14. He found a job, mastered his trade, made good decisions, and now owns his own company and home. Our business has been robbed three times this week! Trash, beer bottles, human waste and t.p. in the bushes! One employee had his pack with phone and wallet stolen in broad daylight while we were working on the property! YOU HAVE CAUSED THIS!! YOU have encouraged a filthy, thieving bottom dwelling segment of society to move in without adequate resources to deal with them. Your responsible, tax-paying neighbors are paying the price! I will begin billing you for losses, vandalism, and time lost cleaning up after your charges. Prepare for a battle, increased police and governmental intervention. Stick with your community art projects where you excel and stop trashing our neighborhood!

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Posted by Donna Frazier on 11/05/2018 at 9:10 AM

Re: “From freedom to failure

This is Jason Horn and I have to say that things finally came around for me and I am living a life I have always dreamed of. God is good and I am truly happy and honored to be where i am doing what i am doing. Thank you all for your support!

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Posted by Jason Horn on 11/04/2018 at 10:42 AM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

Tannim says, "...the Independent waited to release this story to when Heberer was on vacation in Utah and was unable to immediately respond."

The story itself says, "Heberer, chief since 2015, denies the allegations, saying in an interview..."

Tannim's conclusions are suspect and all he is good for is name calling.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 10/24/2018 at 10:27 PM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

Note also that the Independent waited to release this story to when Heberer was on vacation in Utah and was unable to immediately respond. Timing is suspect and that also adds credence to it being a hit piece.

But, no, this is the voice of tolerance in the Independent.

They're only good for the dark humor, horoscopes, News of the Weird, and the puzzle page.

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Posted by Tannim Alt on 10/23/2018 at 5:00 PM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

Trainor has to be fired. Corruption will continue until he leaves. Giving Anstine 10 years of health care is sickening. Look how many families Anstine destroyed because of his lies. Those lying Captains are still getting paid to do nothing. They dont have to respond to any calls. They make a shift roster and order toilet paper. Fire all of them and hire a command staff that works engines and are qualified to be leaders.

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Posted by Reality Chek on 10/21/2018 at 11:03 AM

Re: “Welcome to Kolorado, Klan Kountry

Durango Colorado is a place where it's openly supported. Proud to be KKK and pushing minorities out of the community with help of police, courts and schools. If you're brown skinned or Asian just avoid Durango all together.
The college is being run by racist people as well.

Posted by NDN@T on 10/20/2018 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

I said absolutely. She's a great gal." A Herberer direct quote. Really Sir what century are you living in. A Great Gal! Not a strong capable individual with the best credentials to train others in this highly competitive demanding career field. No wonder the agency appears to be supportive of sexual misconduct.

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Posted by Robin Hamilton Bonk on 10/20/2018 at 8:58 AM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

BobfortheTruth:

Your deleted comment:

Do you feel it was deleted because it stood against what the Indy reported or is their anything in the comment that would have compromised identities of private citizens which might be cause for pulling down a comment or some other reason it may have violated posting standards? I write some pretty damn nasty stuph considering our current crop of electeds and the fact I am basically a nasty person - - but have not experienced having comments removed just because they are critical of an article - - at least by the Indy.

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Posted by R Wehner on 10/20/2018 at 1:39 AM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

For all those asking.......(only one) yes pic of post that was taken down. Hard to believe myself but #fake news exsists everywhere. Sad for everyone.

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Posted by bobforthetruth on 10/19/2018 at 11:00 PM

Re: “Public safety workers allege racial discrimination and sexual harassment in Fountain

Bonforthetruth

I couldnt agree more!!

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Posted by Fountainwatchman on 10/19/2018 at 10:58 PM

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