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Re: “Dueling transit funding initiatives may both fail on Nov. 6

Also, I would like to know why I never saw ONE petition gatherer in Colorado Springs for any initiative? I shop at either King Soopers, Walmart or Target several times a week in the north end and I never saw one of them at any of these stores during the summer. Where do all these signatures come from to get these things on the ballot? Amendment petitions must get at least 2% of their signatures from each voting district.

Posted by boomer47 on 10/03/2018 at 10:11 AM

Re: “Dueling transit funding initiatives may both fail on Nov. 6

I don't understand the rational of asking for a sales tax increase to fund the state roads. Why should someone who doesn't drive or drives very little (i.e., the disabled, elderly, rest-home or assisted living folks, etc) have to pay for roads? This should be done thru an increase in the gas tax or registration fees (if you think you need it), or maybe the state legislators can just "slip in" another FastTrack fee without voter approval. Also, 15 percent of the "Lets Go, Colorado" initiative , sponsored by the Denver Metro Chamber of Commerce and other business interests, will go toward comprehensive transit and other multi-modal projects - that's a "dog-whistle" for the Denver light-rail system. I'm still mad about how the majority of the state got screwed over by Referendum B several years ago. One billion dollar bond issue for roads that almost 90% went to the Denver area.

Posted by boomer47 on 10/03/2018 at 9:48 AM

Re: “Dueling transit funding initiatives may both fail on Nov. 6

Isn't it interesting that Jon Caldera, who is a Sean Hannity wannabe, who created his own institute to call himself director is spoken of so differently than just another protestor. Caldera is of the tea party. He misinforms the public. He is a show boat like Alex Jones. Jon could be a local colorado watch dog except that he realy only cares about promoting his brand. Then there is his trouble with the truth.

Can't trust Hazlehurst either because he seems to promote what ever the Mayor and the republicans are doing. Along comes Colorado Concern with their Oil and gas Industry money. There is a push from republican funded groups like them to make it difficult to pass ballot issues. They supporting raising the bar.

It is especially important this election season to ignore all TV and radio ads because there is no truth in advertising at all. When a ballot measure isn't liked it should make you examine it especially if Suthers is upset because it isn't his latest new tax initiative.

Posted by TruB on 09/16/2018 at 9:17 AM

Re: “El Paso County needs a needle exchange

Well dude; there are plenty of needles to be picked up in and around a lot of the cities parks; go at it; lead the way.

Posted by NIMBY McSuede on 08/14/2018 at 4:49 AM

Re: “El Paso County needs a needle exchange

I love you guys, but... I can't be chasing every kid screeing down high drive with a bungee and a helmet.
Every single person who shoots up KNOWS they might die! Many do. This is reckless maniacal behavior! It is good to bury them, as an example to the rest. Sooner the better. Let them rot a few days in the driveway to send an accurate message to the kids.

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Posted by notfersissies on 08/01/2018 at 8:56 PM

Re: “El Paso County needs a needle exchange

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Posted by sherio on 08/01/2018 at 8:00 PM

Re: “Parks belong to the city’s citizens, not tourists

John we could decrease traffic in GOG by building a trolley again. We need to direct our tourists where there need to go, and it`d be nice to do it without cars. Also, work on a trolley system would make a lightrail to Denver more practical, as intra and inter city transit systems rely heavily on eachotherfor success. As for citizen parks, the bathrooms at Memorial Park/Prospect lake have been closed for years now. That is a community park and there are many like it in the city. The city does what it does with them and they are great parks, but still lacking in basic necessities. Good question John. So let's start asking g about this City of Chumps Olympic Museum!

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Posted by KyleJS on 05/20/2018 at 8:49 PM

Re: “Parks belong to the city’s citizens, not tourists

Open to the public does not translate to unlimited access. Restrictions already apply - for example, you may not enter the areas near the major rock formations unless you are a climber with a permit. Most reasonable people agree that this is both necessary and reasonable to preserve the park.

To quote RMFI:

"Given the park's relatively small size (1,300 acres), the visitation density far surpasses any similar site in the region. Decades of high use have taken a heavy toll on the park, leaving the natural integrity of the Garden of the Gods at serious risk."

During peak season, the parking already available fills the park to densities that feel more like a music festival than natural park. Are we meant to accommodate even more guests, even if this means sacrificing more valuable land to cars? What about our duty to protect and preserve the Garden for future generations?

In my opinion, far too much ground has already been given up. This is one of the most beautiful sites on earth, and yet we feel obligated to let loud, polluting cars (and motorcycles) idle through it while the drivers take shots for instagram from behind the wheel. The central garden is paved over and plaques bolted to the beautiful sandstone! Rather than pave another parking lot over our paradise, maybe it's time to consider that cars aren't people, and nobody guaranteed vehicles the right to go anywhere in the Garden.

Dig up that ugly blacktop and let the people enjoy their Garden.

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Posted by Jason R on 05/17/2018 at 3:19 PM

Re: “Parks belong to the city’s citizens, not tourists

Try Lewiston, Idaho next door to Clarkston , Washington.

The big rivers of the Northwest drain to the area. Snake river w Hells Canyon, the salmon river-three hundred miles w/o a dam, and the Clearwater. 30 miles from Washington State U and U of Idaho.

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Posted by What's the Word? on 05/16/2018 at 7:16 PM

Re: “Parks belong to the city’s citizens, not tourists

well it is beginning to feel like, for me at least, that if you are not from someplace else or homeless - you have no rights in Colorado Springs these days. When public easements, sidewalks and open spaces are turned into unsanitary homeless camps and every natural park and attraction exists only to make a profit for someone else - tell me what is left? Certainly not a place where ordinary people want to come and raise a family.

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Posted by rms on 05/16/2018 at 3:10 PM

Re: “Parks belong to the city’s citizens, not tourists

Stratton saw Cheyenne Canon as a place for the working class to recuperate from its labors, not as a tourist attraction. To that end, he built an inexpensive street-car line out there and a pavilion for dances, picnics, etc. I have no problem with the idea that Colorado Springs was built for tourists but let's keep our facts straight.

In fact, one would be hard put to find anything Stratton built with the tourist trade in mind. He thought it was important to take care of the poor elderly and orphans of what was then El Paso County (now El Paso and Teller counties).

I am pretty appalled at the idea that everything in the city has to be for sale. Meanwhile the city expands at lightning speed to the east. Services are needed there, particularly in the southeast, rather than accommodations on the west side for the tourism business. Yet there seems to be little concern among the powers that be.

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Posted by Clara McKenna on 05/16/2018 at 12:27 PM

Re: “Parks belong to the city’s citizens, not tourists

Long before 1981 and advent of Airbnb...Colorado Springs was founded by General William Jackson Palmer as a tourist resort town.

The city has a long and colorful history that is steeped in tourism. The city was junction for 7 railways and railroads brought tourists here from across the U.S. and abroad attracted by the area's natural beauty and climate.

Funding for many of our parks that we enjoy today originally came from Spencer Penrose, William Jackson Palmer and Winfield Scott Stratton.

Garden of the God's was gifted to the city of Colorado Springs by the children of Charles Elliot Perkins in fulfillment of his wish that it remain open and free to the public. The key word is public. Not residents of Colorado Springs. Garden of the God's was gifted so that is may be enjoyed by the public. Can you imagine if that land were privately held and no one except the owner could enjoy the beauty of that park?

We are all fortunate to live here and should be mindful that tourists have been welcomed to Colorado Springs by many many generations before us...long before 1981, even before 1881.

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Posted by PikesPeaker on 05/16/2018 at 11:17 AM

Re: “Choose unity through tragedy

Compared to the rest of the city the SE has been neglected . The city lets the homeless camp down here but they run them off from the NW the W side of town. There is trash every where no clean up by the city. No safe parks for th kids to play in. Shameful

Posted by Holly Ferguson Wright on 05/01/2018 at 8:26 PM

Re: “A call to reject the Banning Lewis Ranch Annexation Agreement, lest it leave us worse off

Follow the money behind the Gazette and the Colorado Home builders Assoc who desperately want to line the pockets of the developer. The Gazette even misquoted Dave here because they didn't mis-understood the type of sustainability with which he works.

Posted by TruB on 04/25/2018 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Bigots, racists and Dominionist Christians rejoice in Trump presidency

What a strange article.

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Posted by Joe Campbell on 04/18/2018 at 6:41 AM

Re: “The NRA’s devolution, spineless politicos and the battle to end mass shootings in America

I love the U.S. Constitution, I really do. It gives explicit instructions on how to change the Constitution. To eliminate the 2nd Amendment you need to call for a "Convention of States" and propose an amendment to remove the 2nd Amendment from the Constitution, and while we're at it lets eliminate the religious portion of the 1st amendment. Then we get Congress to vote on it and then the states get their vote. and that is how you override the 2nd amendment. You will have to call for a "Convention of States" to pull an Australian style "Gun Grab".

The question then are similar to those of the prohibition era, who bribed whom so they could keep their guns.

Posted by Cletus on 04/11/2018 at 6:36 PM

Re: “The North Cheyenne Cañon plan must respect public

Sorry, the citation for the latter quote regarding shuttles should say (p. 67)

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Posted by suesun on 04/08/2018 at 9:58 PM

Re: “The North Cheyenne Cañon plan must respect public

First, apologies because I know this is long....

Thank you, Ruth, for expressing so well the reasons why this NCC Master Plan is a blank check instead of a real plan of recommendations, and why it is important to keep the Canyon open to all people. One of the items in the Parks Department's "toolbox" is the idea of entrance/parking fees. Another is the reduction of pullout parking from 43 to 12, and specifically closing ALL the pullouts in South Cheyenne Canyon. The parks department is, effectively, with this plan, telling its own citizens that it values tourists and the Broadmoor over the public that they should serve. Here's why:

From the Master Plan, page 67: "Of the conceptual site plans considered only 8.3 fully unifies South Caon to the rest of the Park as well as addresses all the concerns and recommendations outlined for the Park Use Areas." Here is what Conceptual Plan 8.3 has in it: 1. The destruction of the Mesa Picnic Pavilion behind Starsmore to build a giant parking lot for shuttles, 2. Closing/gating of Mesa Rd. at Evans so that ONLY Broadmoor shuttle buses to Seven Falls (and Strawberry Fields if Save Cheyenne's lawsuit is unsuccessful) may use it, thus also closing down the public pullout parking picnic areas along Mesa as well, 3. The closing of S. Cheyenne Canyon Rd to all traffic. It would make a path up S. Cheyenne Canyon along the creek, but not everyone wants to (or is able to) hike half a mile to have a picnic.

Another thing I would like noted: The Master Plan says that "Support for Park shuttles, either summer-only or year-round, was the strongest among the October workshop groups, relative to their support for the other four ideas to address traffic and parking" (p. One of the other choices was a gondola! Seriously. Your parks department, who can't even maintain open restrooms and trash cans at picnic sites, asked if we wanted a gondola to take us from Starsmore to Helen Hunt Falls. Who's gonna pay for that?! When they give you such choices, and say "Vote for Two", you will undoubtedly get skewed statistics. Other options were a two-way road but with significant widening, limiting car access, and a one-way road.

Ok, done now. Except, go here and sign the petition:…

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Posted by suesun on 04/08/2018 at 9:55 PM

Re: “The North Cheyenne Cañon plan must respect public

It is up to us now, just as it was in the 1880's, to stand up and fight for our parks and open spaces. It was easy peasy to rally against the Big Blue Frame because it was right there in front of our astonished eyes. The insidious over-make-over of North Cheyenne Canyon Park will not be apparent until it is far far too late. I would ask that you to read over the master plan carefully, then go to the canyon, stand at its entrance just behind The Starsmore Nature Center - itself a testament to nature by the way it nestles so naturally beside the snow-fed creek and among the cottonwood and lichen-covered rocks. Now close your eyes and picture in your mind how it will look and feel with the recommended "improvements". I would tell you to do that indeed ... except that the aforementioned master plan has mysteriously disappeared from the city's website as of this writing. Please help Save Cheyenne rescue NCCP. You will find us out there with information and encouragement both in the south canyon and at the Ridgeway Trailhead of Stratton Open Space every weekend that we are able. History is repeating itself and you can be part of it!

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Posted by Donna Strom on 04/04/2018 at 11:22 AM

Re: “The NRA’s devolution, spineless politicos and the battle to end mass shootings in America

There's that terminology again "Semiautomatic Assault Weapons." Writers and reporters love to use the scariest, fictional words to get their point's across. It's like reading this article and reporting it as a "syphilis infused dichotomy of undefined terminology." Just doesn't quite fit the narrative.

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Posted by Silky Johnson on 03/14/2018 at 1:44 PM

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