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Comment Archives: stories: Columns: Hiking Bob

Re: “Give bears their space

It would be interesting to know how many people have been physically harmed by our little bears here. My experience with our bears is that they are no threat to humans, particularly if you use some common sense. Do nothing to enrage the bears, just turn and walk away. They don't want to mess with you any more than you do them. Secure food and garbage. Don't tempt them. Don't leave food in your car. And remember, we are living in their territory. If you don't like it, you may want to relocate.

Posted by coloradosprings on 04/17/2018 at 2:53 PM

Re: “Give bears their space

Many backpack waist buckles have whistles built in. Take a close look and you might find you already have one with you.

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Posted by jrbd on 04/14/2018 at 7:15 PM

Re: “Give bears their space

Yep, bear generally want nothing to do with hikers. Hunters are more likely to run across one.

Agree, a safety whistle (What? You don't carry one? You should always have one when hiking.) is a great deterrent. Not a big fan of bells (noise polution). But one of those small disposable air horns will definitely do the trick.

I also run into far too many people who want/insist on carrying a handgun for bear protection. I am about as pro-firearm as people are ever likely to encounter, but I have to tell them, bear spray is far more effective than a handgun. And multiple studies agree. If people want to carry, so be it (but please carry safely), but if they are using bears as an excuse to do so, they are deluding themselves. And for those carrying those Judges and Defenders -- um, no -- if you are going to carry, carry something more useful and appropriate. Still, people are better off leaving the firearm at home and packing the spray.

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Posted by Dave H on 04/14/2018 at 2:11 PM

Re: “Incline Friends ante up for Barr Trail and RMFI

One thing which was overlooked is the promised new downhill trail for Incline users. What is the status on that? It's no surprise that the lower Barr Trail has suffered abuse. Anybody could see this coming, and it was discussed in the initial meetings years ago, then promptly ignored. We're all going to find out that it costs a lot more money to attempt to fix a trail than it would have been to protect it in the first place! Especially when the trail continues to get pounded by too many people and switchback-cutters.

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Posted by Nicole Rosa on 04/07/2018 at 9:45 AM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

One of the excuses touted by the Broadmore was the inavalability of parts and equipment. Stradler Rail took over the rack railway business of the Swiss Locomotive Works and manufactures new rolling stock and parts for the Abt rack system used by the Pike's Peak Cog Railway. The Abt rack system is the most common in use. On the other side of things the Mount Washington Cog Railway is the oldest rack railway in the world and uses it's own home brewed Marsh rack system. Everything on this operation was home made and built in house.

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Posted by Roger Mitchell on 03/18/2018 at 4:31 PM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

John Duprey,

The city HAS a mountain top gift shop. And small eatery. I guess you have never been up there. There are several buildings up there. What the city is planning on doing is replacing some of the old buildings with a newer, more attractive building.

As for Anschutz trying to control the concessions, this move would certainly not have that effect. Instead, it will force more people to take the toll road and drive up -- and Anschutz doesn't control the toll road, the city of Colorado Springs does.

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Posted by Odin on 03/18/2018 at 1:52 PM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

This has a bad smell to it already, and it smells like Broadmoor blackmailing City (that means US) into coughing up the cash for a new train or costly refurb of the existing track & rolling stock. We've seen this movie before. Remember when the hotel decided to fold Ski Broadmoor? City Council responded with "Haruump! Haruump! Ski Broadmoor is a city 'gem'---, we must save it, damn the cost!" And COST it did! Here we go again, folks...

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Posted by JayJay on 03/18/2018 at 1:40 PM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

So why swap the land?
The COG is an awesome tourist attraction and I wouldn't swap land now. Not for access to where people will no longer be parking. All the things a company does for free most likely becomes a tax deduction somewhere.

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Posted by TruB on 03/18/2018 at 9:21 AM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

So wasn't the city planning to build a new mtn top gift shop? Is this a play by Anschutz to control the concessions? I hope the plan to build atop Pikes Peak is scrapped with this closure!

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Posted by John Duprey on 03/18/2018 at 9:16 AM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

What if BILLIONAIRE owner, Phillip Anschutz, was magnanimous, and spent a TINY portion of his MASSIVE fortune to fix and renovate The Cog Railway to the benefit of all?!? Wouldn't THAT be SOMETHING!?! But, after attempting to grab our public land in the rotten Strawberry Fields debacle, possible attempt at grabbing Rosemont Reservoir, etc, etc, don't hold your breath... Sadly, The Broadmoor is no longer a "Good Neighbor"; nor has it been for quite some time...

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Posted by John C. Spengler on 03/17/2018 at 6:51 PM

Re: “Road trip hike: Trail 717A Loop; and the North Cheyenne Cañon Park master plan

Bob, SO MUCH of the Master Plan stinks!!! How much of it are you in favor of "Mr. Volunteer Expert"?!?

Posted by John C. Spengler on 03/17/2018 at 6:38 PM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

The cog contributes hundreds of thousands of dollars per year in sales tax to Manitou and the tourists of course contribute a lot more. Manitou needs to embrace the outdoor recreation market even more now.

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Posted by DaveA on 03/17/2018 at 6:18 PM

Re: “Cog Railway closure could impact recreation on Pikes Peak

Many visitors to Pikes Peak take the Cog because they are concerned about the drive, either from a vehicle reliability aspect, heath/altitude issues, or just nervousness because of the steep drop-offs.

Many of those people will no longer visit Pikes Peak without the option of the Cog. And the Cog is an atraction in and of itself. It also brings a fair amount of business to Manitou Springs (though it also brings parking problems).

Those who do decide to drive up will no doubt increase the coffers of Colorado Springs, who owns the Toll Road and the Summit House (not sure who owns the gift shops at Glen Cove or Crystal Reservoir), however, the increased road traffic and limited parking at the summit will undoubtedly be a concern.

Add in the transportation concerns you mention: Hikers have long relied on it as a way back down after going up Barr Trail, its use to shuttle supplies to Barr Camp, it is how many from El Paso County Search and Rescue and Pikes Peak ARES get in position to support the Ascent and Marathon, etc.

Granted, the Cog is old and keeping it running is expensive. And the Broadmoor, who owns the Cog, is a for profit business that has to look at its bottom line. But the Cog is a regional, even state, treasure. Shutting it down permanently would not be a good thing.

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Posted by Dvalin on 03/17/2018 at 2:11 PM
Posted by Chas Saulsbury on 03/12/2018 at 1:36 PM

Re: “Leave your stinkin' drone at home

No one wants drones filling the skies Bob. But to blanket all drone users as you have done here is ridiculous. I have seen many professional drone operations pulled off without any issues and yes a few being used improperly as well. What about horses and motorcycles? they cause far more damage to the landscape. Lets ban them too.....

Posted by Chas Saulsbury on 03/12/2018 at 1:33 PM

Re: “Leave your stinkin' drone at home

IJC:

"One of the issues is privacy violation. I don't want to be filmed without consent by strangers from a buzzing device flying 50' away from me."

You have no right to privacy if you're in a public place. Security cameras are ubiquitous....and perfectly legal. They are recording your image every day. Drones in open public airspace get the same treatment. They do not need your consent.

Posted by Bill W. on 02/18/2018 at 8:23 AM

Re: “Leave your stinkin' drone at home

One of the issues is privacy violation. I don't want to be filmed without consent by strangers from a buzzing device flying 50' away from me. Would you feel comfortable if you were filmed getting into your car, going to work, and your family filmed too? It's the same thing. Invasion of privacy.

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Posted by Injecting Common Sense on 02/17/2018 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Hiking during hunting season, and free park access on Veterans Day

Fully agree: Stay on the trails, wear bright clothing. It is good advice any time of the year, but during hunting season, it is even more important.

Also, stay away from the animals. Do not feed them, don't try to get close to them for a selfie, don't try to pet them, etc. Not only is feeding them ILLEGAL, but you may also put yourself in the way of a hunter. Furthermore, you may be charged harassing wildlife AND for animals like elk and deer, hunting season comes around the rut and the animals can be even more dangerous than normal during the rut.

Hunters try to clearly identify their target and are responsible for making sure they have a clear line between them and their target and beyond their target. And for the most part, they do a very good job. The majority of gunshot deaths and injuries involving hunters involve shooting themselves or other hunters, not hikers, and normally are due to handling issues, not mistaken targets.

By simply wearing something bright, you can make it much easier for them to see you and identify you as a human.

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Posted by Dave H on 01/22/2018 at 1:14 PM

Re: “Hiking during hunting season, and free park access on Veterans Day

Good advice Bob. Had some hikers stumble right into the area where I was elk hunting this fall, with their dog running loose. No bright clothing, nothing. Didn't even have a clue it was opening weekend. I explained to them the risks they were taking and they turned around and headed out.

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Posted by Katy Lynn Davis on 01/16/2018 at 3:21 PM

Re: “Volunteer advisers, employees, and elected officials work together to administer parks

Bob, I appreciate your explanation in the Colorado Springs Independent regarding how policy gets made and who's responsible for decisions in the parks. One question that I don't think you answered; how did the blue frame get mounted in the park without any pre-publicity? When changes like that are proposed, wouldn't it be useful to have a public debate about it prior to having it mounted? Who has the power and gall to just give the order and have a thing like that mounted in the park? Is this not something that should not have happened in the first place? And what steps are being taken to make sure that such a thing can't happen again?

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Posted by coloradosprings on 01/07/2018 at 12:17 PM

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