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Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

To say that 3% groups defend Nazis is pretty indicative of a biased slant. A lot of the oathkeeper and 3% groups actually are pretty anti-nazi and defended colored protesters against Nazis in Charlottesville.

And when you consider that this is their second time training and most three percenter groups have hundreds if not thousands of hours underneath their belt, well, just saying.

Anyone anytime in American decides to understand firearms and defend themselves as a good thing in my eye. But to be so intensely divisive is just feeding into the hegelian dialectic of the ruling class.

Their divide and conquer is working all too well.

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Posted by Joel Aigner on 09/29/2017 at 6:54 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

First of all it's $250 Kel Tec Sub2000 Gen1 he is so ostentatiously holding in his paws. Quite laughably to begin with... Not mentioning the airsoft scope that redhead has on her AR.
The heroic language this article is written in is worrying. Now these leftists are actually pushing for armed, poorly equipped and poorly trained groups to mingle with crowds against whoever they disagree with.
A recipe for disaster

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Posted by Frederic Baker on 09/29/2017 at 6:30 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

First of all what is a white supremacist? NO ONE TO DATE has defined it. Its a term the left has "coined" and it is thrown around willy nilly. Second, they practice in a basement? I hope they have hearing and eye protection and some way to get rid of the lead from the shells. What about richochets? Misfires? Third, Why did Lamborn lock her out of his office? Being obnoxious or what? These groups while having the empowerment that comes from "being prepared in case of civil unrest" do no good for themselves. I highly approve of the female getting trained but she should make sure she trains her kids on what to do if ever attacked. thanks for the article and if this group wants to organize, I say GOD BLESS THEM!

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Posted by HSabin on 09/28/2017 at 6:50 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

A basic principle of consciousness is that you can't solve a problem with the same mentality that created it. Fighting violence with violence simply creates more violence. The reason for this is the ego's tendency to escalate when it feels threatened, which results in a spiral of increasing escalation. People will die if this course of action is taken, and we have to ask ourselves if killing fellow Americans for our cause is better than if necessary, dying for it. Literally, you cannot promote equality with a gun, the ultimate symbol of inequality, where the ego behind the gun has decided it needs to be the overdog and the person in front of the gun, the underdog.

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Posted by Eric Novikoff on 09/28/2017 at 5:00 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Am I seeing a trend here. There are no likes on anyone's comments. Does everyone that reads the Independent just dislike everything and maybe this is the source of divisiveness in our community?

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Posted by Norrin Radd on 09/28/2017 at 4:45 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Those magazines don't look legal in Colorado. I think El Paso County Sheriff should pay them a visit.

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Posted by schotts on 09/28/2017 at 3:55 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Dear Nat,

Socialists + violence = Communist Revolutionaries (Bolsheviks)

What part about that don't you understand? These people are not alt-left or whatever term the left invents to hide what their goal really is. THEY ARE COMMUNISTS. They want a violent revolution. Look! they even wear the red Che bandanas.

History repeats. You are living through an incredible point in world history. So maybe go study 1920's Russian history and then re-write your story to present facts instead of propaganda. Then we can take what you write seriously.

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Posted by Can O'Korn on 09/28/2017 at 12:35 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

HEY ... LOOK ... it's Kenny from South Park!!!

"If they look scary"??? No ... they look like a joke, a bad one at that.

Being a veteran doesn't automatically make you a warrior. An Air Force supply clerk at a shed in Iraq doesn't automatically qualify you to lead a bunch of misguided civilians into armed combat. Being able to shoot a gun (that scares you when it goes "POP") doesn't automatically qualify you to function in an actual fire fight (gunfire, that is).

These are people who need a safe space when someone uses a word that hurts their feelings. They're not equipped to survive the PTSD after the "targets" are shooting back at them. I'm sure that they all slap each other on the back (after asking permission, of course) about how they're bad-ass killers now, but I'd be willing to bet none of them has a clue about how dark the place is that they want to go, or about how dark those that have actually been there can be.

The most telling aspect of their clownery is the bandanas ... are you effin' kidding me? You've got the stones to walk around armed with a weapon, and want people to believe that you're ready and willing to use it, but you don't have the nads to show your face???

I really hope ... for their sake ... that they never get what they're bargaining for.

I give Mr. Hair Product no more that 5 minutes against a skilled adversary ... he better fight only at night, because the shadow thrown by those ears would be a sniper's delight.

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Posted by RW Burns on 09/28/2017 at 12:09 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

There are racists in this town.
The people who went for a photo shoot with their guns are not going to stop a person if they are wanting to run people over. ANTIFA found ONE flyer downtown and has stopped one 'nazi' in a park. There is racism but it can't be fought with guns by a few people who think they are the white black panthers.

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Posted by TruB on 09/28/2017 at 9:46 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Things became divisive when Bush Jr. took office and the leftist media went on a war of Us vs Them. This my team vs your team crap has spiraled since. If you don't like the hate, then stop hating. I refuse to play this game of being divided by our elected and the media. I ask you to refuse to subject yourself to it as well.

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Posted by TheDudeAbides on 09/28/2017 at 8:11 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

I agree with the comment that folks don't appreciate that fascists are here in our beautiful city. This article identifies four of them as evidence.

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Posted by TheDudeAbides on 09/28/2017 at 8:08 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

"when Democrats held a supermajority in Congress during former President Barack Obama's first term"

The question they need to ask themselves is how this ended and why?

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Posted by alesia on 09/28/2017 at 7:55 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

The left already has their violent militia - the KKK. That worked out well for them, didn't it?

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Posted by intheaspens on 09/28/2017 at 7:55 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

As a real redneck out in the sticks, you folks have no clue how the CW2 could evolve and wreck your little lives in the urban beehives. Your supply chain of life is a joke, as is your preferred artificial man-god created habitat.
We, out here, are tired of being labeled varied names, so much so that we are now accepting your designations with resigned pride and will start to act accordingly with gusto. [The misapplied names such as fascist for example are similar to the dousing a fire with accelerants and you folks thusly being surprised with the results. Public schools much?]
Too much dancing at some point is tiring.......... lets get after it and giterdone.

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Posted by milliron on 09/28/2017 at 7:54 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

The unfortunate reality that most of these commenters seem to be missing is that Nazis and white supremacists are in our town, they are increasingly emboldened, and they are armed. Our elected officials are doing nothing. Do we wait until someone drives a car into a crowd to acknowledge reality, or do we peacefully allow them to take over our town? These are our options, folks, like it or not. This is where we are.

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Posted by Candi Frank on 09/28/2017 at 7:11 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Are we going to fight over whose flavor of Koolaide tastes better?

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Posted by TheDudeAbides on 09/28/2017 at 5:19 AM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Recently I've come to believe that our country is headed for a Second Civil War. Recently was two years ago and I believe that such an event was to happen within 10 years. This article gives credence to that assessment as two sides have now said they are willing to take up arms against each other in the cloaked Spectre of security. America is divided like never before. We now have the 2018 and 2020 elections coming up and the division will only deepen. We all realize our elected officials Democrat and Republican have failed us and our nation. We citizens with conflicted ideologies and agendas wish to take our liberties and freedoms back. Peacefully taken back would be the best outcome for all however, the reality is quite the opposite. We have doomed ourselves to repeat what we said would never happen again 152 years ago. I am a proud American and I love my country with all of her faults and imperfections...and while I hope for the best, the writing on the wall tells me to be prepared for the worst. I secretly hope for an invasion by some interplanetary force who wishes to destroy us all. Maybe then, like Independence Day, we'll all forget about the color of our skin and cultural differences and join together to save our people and planet. I just don't see us getting past the Second Civil War beforehand though and it's quite disheartening.

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Posted by Norrin Radd on 09/27/2017 at 8:02 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

Don't tell me how to protest is fine but it comes with the attitude that you are against us if you don't agree with us. The emotional caddiness shown and guns don't mix.

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Posted by TruB on 09/27/2017 at 3:50 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

The majority of "Left" I know are not okay with the idea of guns and violence. That is not what we stand for, now or in the future. I can't speak for everyone, but bringing a gun to a rally implies that violence is expected or okay. It is very uncomfortable to be in the presence of weapons. This group may say they are there to protect us "Liberals" but maybe they should ask us how we feel and not assume that we need to be protected. I am not in support of their mindset.

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Posted by yellowdogdem on 09/27/2017 at 3:45 PM

Re: “The left's answer to emboldened white supremacists? A militia of their own.

I am another lead organizer for COS CAN. I do not share the belief that guns are an olive branch or that progressives need to arm themselves.

Political rallies and protests are already a fraught environment, and open/advertised carry of weapons sends a very strong and deliberate message of willingness to commit violence. I dont think appearing threatening will result in the social justice the progressives have been pursuing.

By all means, defend yourself or feed your family. Dont scare people on purpose.

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Posted by Jillian Freeland on 09/27/2017 at 2:21 PM

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