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Re: “Reader: County Dems are underrepresented

"none of the five commissioner seats in El Paso County is occupied by a Democrat"

Commissioners, like all elected officials, are elected by geographic districts, not by political party ratios.

"not one district is even competitive for a Democrat to run in, much less win"

Districts are laid out by geography and population, not by party density.

What you are really advocating is gerrymandering based on party density.

"The best way to address the Democratic threat is just to redraw the lines,"

The BOCC meeting I went to and the Clerk and Recorder website had plenty of maps and gave very solid reasons why the redistricting was happening and why the proposed changes were being made. They had everything to do with population growth and geography, balancing the number of people per commissioner (which is long overdue), and nothing to do with political parties.

"Perhaps if there had been a Democrat county commissioner, he or she would have smelled "the rat in the henhouse" and stopped Maketa before he was allowed to become a liability to taxpayers."

Highly unlikely that such a person would have done any such thing.

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Posted by Odin on 07/06/2017 at 4:33 PM

Re: “Reader: County Dems are underrepresented

rw shoemaker,

"The KKK had a hold on the city and county, and even the state, to the point that there was at least one KKK governor of the state at one time. "

Not the city. https://www.csindy.com/coloradosprings/wel…

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Posted by Odin on 07/06/2017 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Reader: County Dems are underrepresented

I agree with your sentiment, Cindy. Unfortunately, El Paso County has a long history of being "conservative." Steel mill owners lived in Colorado Springs, the workers lived in Pueblo. Mine owners lived in Colorado Springs, the workers lived elsewhere. The KKK had a hold on the city and county, and even the state, to the point that there was at least one KKK governor of the state at one time.

Massacres of striking workers cloud our history. The monied interests in El Paso County still control the city and county. Nothing is done without their approval. The city fathers saw fit to attract evangelical/fundamentalist businesses to the point of the city becoming known as the Evangelical "Vatican."

Most democrats moved here from other places. The party has no real power, and never has in El Paso County. Even though the state has had several Democratic governors, Colorado remains a right to work state.

Only Barack Obama's candidacy in 2008 stirred the Democrats we have to show up, attracting more than 12,000 to the local convention and overwhelming the accommodations. Although Colorado has become a purple state, El Paso County, being the most populace county in the state, keeps it red by a landslide. It will be a long time before the powers that be care what the Democrats want here.

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Posted by rw shoemaker on 07/06/2017 at 3:47 PM

Re: “Reader: County Dems are underrepresented

Great letter Cyndy!

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Posted by sherio on 07/06/2017 at 1:39 PM

Re: “Reader: maintain bicycle infrastructure where the rubber meets the road

I would love to see more bike lanes

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Posted by Matt 2 on 07/05/2017 at 10:14 AM

Re: “Reader: Poop, graffiti and noise is the Barr Trail norm

Yes and thank you for asking, Close the Incline once and for all. The process that legalized it was flawed. It is not ecologically sustainable, etc. Check out my Facebook page titled COS Land Swap and you will understand.

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Posted by Carl Strow on 07/04/2017 at 7:05 PM

Re: “Reader: There is no longer intent to inform and educate

Thank you Mr. Mische for this well thought out letter. How about if we all stop dehumanizing those who do not share our views? We'll all be better off for it.

Posted by John Howell on 07/04/2017 at 6:01 PM

Re: “Reader: Poop, graffiti and noise is the Barr Trail norm

Carl Strow and Joseph Cree, would you care to offer any solutions or do you just want to bitch?

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Posted by John Howell on 07/04/2017 at 5:57 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

Here Ill throw some more reality out there. Yall say the rich should pay for it all. That there the only ones using the resources of our Country that taxes pay. Well I guess the China way of life is just what you want. No vote, No voice,No taxes, No health care. Just the big wigs telling you what, when, where and how. Ill bet if you strap on your water wings and hit the West Coast you might can float there. The only way to get the fairness you guys are seeking is Vote for like minded people, demand they represent you not themselves and get the money out of Washington. You cant just sit on your backsides grip and complain about others not paying there share if your not willing to pay yours.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 07/02/2017 at 1:32 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

The rich got rich by taking from america and it only makes sense that they play it forward and give back to those that made them rich in the first place. how can the economy work if the rich keep what they have and the rest of us pay ,pay, pay. that is definitely NOT a two lane road.

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Posted by Jay Whynotaskme on 07/01/2017 at 12:09 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

Gina, it's time for you to go to your local public library -- paid for by taxes -- and do some serious reading about the regimentation and restriction surrounding daily life in China. For one thing, you would no longer be free to write the letters to the Indy that you do.

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Posted by Clara McKenna on 07/01/2017 at 9:23 AM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

Gina, nothing makes me more angry than people like you who steal from others. 67% of the nation's taxes are paid by 2%.

Your letter is anti American and plain disgusting.

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Posted by William David Beadles on 06/30/2017 at 11:09 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

This is the best letter I have read. Beautifully written. Thank you.

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Posted by Lenora McAndrews Degen on 06/30/2017 at 8:11 PM

Re: “Reader: Incline traffic is out of control on Barr Trail

Carl is 100% right. What they did with the Incline is like building a new interstate highway with plenty of on-ramps and no off-ramps. People simply jump off wherever they please and the erosion on the hillside descending to the Barr Trail is horrific. The damage is irreparable. The downhill trail should have been in place first, before allowing hundreds of thousands to visit the incline. It's absolutely criminal.

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Posted by Nicole Rosa on 06/30/2017 at 6:43 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

Tru b And thats why I say a flat tax is the best way to go. The point was well taken rich or poor taxes can not or should not be one sided. If the rich had to pay for all then they would be the only ones with a voice but with the money thrown around Washington they about are now. But if the American people would stop bickering and get together listen and compromise our voice could get heard by our vote. But thats a lot to ask I guess.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 06/30/2017 at 6:42 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

Rocky missed the point that when it comes to taxes the poor are paying for services that rich assume will be there. The tax breaks keep going to the rich who recieve a great deal of compensations.

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Posted by TruB on 06/30/2017 at 5:44 PM

Re: “Reader: You're the one who wants your lifestyle protected, so you pay for it.

This I must chime in on. Theres a butt load that goes into paying taxes. Water, sewage, roads, education,traffic control a huge amount that benefits everyone. No one wants a cop around until ya need one, on your plan you wouldnt have one show up unless you paid the fee. Ya bring up Social Security well if they paid into it they should get it just like you and I,yes its a huge Ponzi game but think of the millions of Seniors that would have starved with out you, I and them paying into it.Nobody likes it until they need it. I personally think a flat tax on all is still the best way to go. Think if I make 20k and pay 15% and if that fella over there makes 3 million he pays 15%. If corporations have the voice in our elections they could chip in 8% of profits and if Churches want the same voice they could pay the same. No deductions, no shelters then everyone is paying there share. If you make more and own more then you have more needs and your paying more for them needs. The only way to keep SS alive for the young to be able to use it when they get old is get off your butts and vote for people that will keep there hands out of it pay your part and keep an eye on what your paying for. As far as China come on really? Those folk over there cant breath the air, drink the water or drive down the road. There told where and when to work and there Social Security is dependent on there children doing the same as they have done all there lives. Heck you may not even own the backpack if this were China let alone go live off yer wits and do as ya please. No Im thankful I was born American and with all thats nuts and unfair in this Country theres lots of places thats worse.I get to vote and even get on this site and spew about almost anything that comes to mind. Cant do that in China.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 06/30/2017 at 11:16 AM

Re: “Reader: Why not choose clean, sustainable energy anyways?

OK Jeff lets talk about already spent money. Money that cant be spent again, Money that was given and spent years ago. Money that was spent to give time to find and spend maybe 8 times that amount. HMMMM yea lets go see if we can spend it again. Good luck.

Posted by Rocky Smith on 06/28/2017 at 4:20 PM

Re: “Reader: We all know why the Civil War took place

No actually quite amused over the fact that it made you mad enough to act like an child. I like the enthusiasm though. Even though you still have no idea what happened but it is fun to watch you........... ROFLMAO!

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Posted by Jay Whynotaskme on 06/27/2017 at 11:49 AM

Re: “Reader: Why not choose clean, sustainable energy anyways?

Rocky Smith- You mean big, upfront money like that spent on the Neumann Systems contract? A $190M fleecing that would have been better spent on real GREEN technology, rather than expensively (and dubiously) prolong the lifespan of 19th century energy production methods? THAT kind of big money?

Posted by Jeff Hirtle on 06/27/2017 at 11:01 AM

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