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Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Actually Maeve, the reason they weren't prosecuted and executed for treason was logistics. It simply wasn't possible to put them all on trial. Lincoln was criticized for this failure and because there was no accounting made at trial for people like Lee and Jefferson, and other Confederate leaders, later generations started to laud them as heroic. Gen. George Thomas predicted in 1868: "The crime of treason might be covered with a counterfeit varnish of patriotism, so that the precipitators of the rebellion might go down in history hand-in-hand with the defenders of the union."
Battle flags do not make soldiers brave, and losing a war doesn't make you a winner, and false equivalence doesn't change historical fact.

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Posted by rangesaf on 06/03/2017 at 12:10 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Colorado Springs turns to reserve fund for $3.4 million bailout of forecast error

If you like, I can forward my posts to you for approval and subsequent posting. Do you do spelling and punctuation checks?

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Posted by R Wehner on 06/02/2017 at 4:27 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Colorado Springs turns to reserve fund for $3.4 million bailout of forecast error

Dear TruB:

A) I use my real name. Not a Pseudonym.
B) I was making a point.
C) And rudely, yes.

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Posted by R Wehner on 06/02/2017 at 4:19 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

The South-hating trolls are out here to dispute those of us who believe what the vast majority know, and have known fo r150 years. "Losers"? I've bet you say that to Native Americans and those who Remember the Alamo and Goliad/La Bahia, for two examples. The brave honor the brave. As to what the Confederate Battle Flag symbolizes, Union General Joshua Chamberlain (the guy portrayed by Jeff Daniels in Gettysburg) said later in life, "The sight of the Confederate Battle Flag always reminded me of the immense bravery of the men who served under it." Chamberlain paid tribute to his foe at Appomattox. This viewpoint is dismissed by those who want to attack the memory of men who served to protect their homes and families. The CBF is a soldiers flag - the naysayers are happy to learn hate and disrespect of American veterans, but not respect and honor - and this reveals them. I do not allow serial murderers to determine my opinions of things, nor race agitators who need fundraising dollars no matter whom it hurts, nor politicians without any genuine statesmanship skills who have more genuine principles and policies upon which to campaign. No Confederate was ever tried for treason by those against whom they fought - and now persons 150 years later hurl names? Puh-leeze. Its people who want to debase real history, and those spreading "offense" as a reason to do something (amusing after a century of Leftism) who are the threat to our country.

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Posted by Maeve Magdalen on 06/02/2017 at 3:48 PM

Re: “Stay inside or get outdoors — 5 events for this weekend

There's also the 2nd Annual Get Outdoors Day at Memorial Park. Free fishing poles for kids and a lot of fun activities at the park and on the lake
https://coloradosprings.gov/GetOutdoors

Posted by Jackie Reynolds on 06/02/2017 at 1:40 PM

Re: “Local anti-war activists persist through decades of intimidation and repression

$523.9 billion is the Pentagon's Budget for 2017. Imagine what benefit a 1/2 trillion dollars might bring to Americans rather than "defense" contractors and a standing military presence throughout the world.

Only 4 guys showed up to question that? How dumb are WE THE PEOPLE to fall in line with this thinking?

Jeez, perhaps 9/11 was something we cooked up via back channels with Saudi Arabia, who fund 9 out of 10 Islamic terrorist deaths that occur. Thought that conspiracy theories were asinine but it starts adding up after a while.

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Posted by Colorado Shu on 06/02/2017 at 1:28 PM

Re: “Colorado GOP announces new flack

what does this dumass think that flack means.... look it up you old fart.

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Posted by happyfew on 06/02/2017 at 1:10 PM

Re: “Colorado GOP announces new flack

Does the use of the word "flack" in the headline indicate bias or hate? If so, Nat Stein needs to add this to his database of "hate events".

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Posted by CSIndyReader on 06/02/2017 at 12:19 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Colorado Springs turns to reserve fund for $3.4 million bailout of forecast error

Dear R Wehner, who the heck are you?
Asking questions is now 'inappropriate' until someone has marched down to the mayors office for an appointment? If you are so well informed then answer the dudes question.
You are just rude without making a point.

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Posted by TruB on 06/02/2017 at 11:25 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Colorado Springs turns to reserve fund for $3.4 million bailout of forecast error

I thought the reserves were for emergencies and unplanned disasters not a way to fund day to day operations because they used unrealistic growth projections. Then why did they wait a year to tell the public conveniently when it is time to begin planning the 2018 budget. Oops we made a mistake. Where is their accountability? Do they not have to report budget indicators on a monthly or at least quarterly summary and report it to the auditors? Who is getting dinged on their performance review for this? This is not transparency.

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Posted by rms on 06/01/2017 at 9:30 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

I find it interesting that many people from the south call the civil war the war of northern aggression. Who attacked who at Fort Sumter? If you guessed the North you need to go back to school. As far as old monuments are concerned, if the powers that be decide that getting rid of old symbols of rebellion will help calm people's obsessions with that rebellion I say melt them all down. Their is not one civil war statue that is worth someone's life. The war is over, get over it.

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Posted by Albe Johnson on 06/01/2017 at 9:21 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Maybe to some the flag represents non-emotional history, but as long as people do stuff like flaunt it from their pick-up truck as they chase pedestrians down, yelling racist chants, it has no chance of losing its terrible connection. It's up there with the swastika now, which was an ancient design used thousands of years prior to the creation of the Nazi party. Just too many ugly people associated with these pieces of "history".

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Posted by Lenora McAndrews Degen on 06/01/2017 at 9:16 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Let's take down Martin L King's statues. JFK's. Let's strip all history away. Let's burn the books on the south and the civil war.

Let's tear down Vietnam War Memorial. Lincoln's Memorial, the Washington Monument.

It's all the same folks. You opinion doesn't trump mine. Your rights are not higher or mightier than mine.

The vast majority of the comments here are wearing away the Freedom of Speech.

Maybe more tolerance folks.....

Dave :-)

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Posted by William David Beadles on 06/01/2017 at 9:14 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Hmmm, but you seem to be ok with the revisionist history of not even using the actual confederate flag as your historic symbol. Instead you rewrite history and use the Virginia battle flag as the confederate flag.

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Posted by Bryan Williams on 06/01/2017 at 8:31 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

You say that, but the monuments in new orleans have quotations about white supremacy on them.

The war was about state's rights, to free labor.

The flag is largely a symbol of hate.

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Posted by Steven Alexander Shaver on 06/01/2017 at 6:50 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Its got more to do with the groups that have adopted those symbols as there message of hate and bigotry that make them repulsive to many Americans in this day and time.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 06/01/2017 at 5:16 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Charlies Manson was also part of our history. Do you celebrate him? The confederates lost, just like England, Mexico, and Germany.

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Posted by te on 06/01/2017 at 4:38 PM

Re: “Transgender Air Force Academy cadet in holding pattern after graduation

Let Them Serve.
The Academy led them on when they allowed entrance and now points out a rule against them serving.

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Posted by TruB on 06/01/2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

For a "Daughter of the Confederacy," you seem to know remarkably little about it. You celebrate a flag designed by men who decided that owning their fellow human beings was more important than maintaining the integrity of these United States. It's a symbol of treason, hatred, and inhuman cruelty towards one's fellow man.

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Posted by thetruth1 on 06/01/2017 at 3:51 PM

Re: “Reader: I'm fed up with the hate being spewed at the symbols of our history

Diana Belles sounds like the history revisionist since she is wrong about what schools have been teaching for 150 years. To bad you didn't do anything to explain your position other than to tell people they are wrong.
Just yelling WRONG doesn't even work for #45.

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Posted by TruB on 06/01/2017 at 3:13 PM

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