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Re: “My white privilege, my brown grandchildren

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 09/10/2017 at 9:10 AM

Re: “My white privilege, my brown grandchildren

Paul, is there any evidence that could convince you that white privelege doesnt exist?
Privilege comes from socioeconomic factors, not racial makeup.

The concept of white privilege assumes that all white people grow up under the same circumstances, in the same way it assumes that black people do as well. If you grow up with a white single mother in a housing project in Holyoke, youre not going to have access to the same type of guidance and resources at home as a rich kid (white or black) from Longmeadow. Poor white students will never be able to qualify for minority scholarships, and thus have no privileges, while upper middle class black students have a plethora of opportunities that would not be available to them if they were white.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 09/10/2017 at 9:09 AM

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I am native American no one knows my language, no one respects my religion or even recognizes the fact that you are all immigrants to
My country

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Posted by Shannon Simmons on 09/09/2017 at 4:18 AM

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Thanks to all for your comments.

For those who do not believe that white privilege exists, is there any evidence that would cause you to change your minds?

For example, if I found out that criminal sentencing outcomes were the same for all races, I would change my mind about the existence of white privilege.

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Posted by Paul Yingling on 09/06/2017 at 8:09 PM

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I see that many have already ridiculed this horrible column. I am so sick and tired of liberal arts grads pulling out a crying towel. One ticket is a meaningless statistic. Absurd. Oh, I have had plenty of tickets and fines and no salutes. One data point is absurd. My five kids went to public schools and have learned that they get no advantage from being white... I was visiting one son at college and a friend of his walked in..blonde haired.... just enough Indian tribe in him for free tuition. My kids didn't get any of these culture give-aways. Now that kid had been given a priv. I have met several white men in the last year full of WP. In every case, they were fortunate to have luck in their lives thousands of others never had. If you went to all private schools and were given a job, and nobody I know got that, then maybe you should feel guilty. Maybe you should pay back in service and not cry in the towel.

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Posted by TominColorado on 09/06/2017 at 4:51 PM

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William Snell's dumbass comment supports this letter's existence in the first place!

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Posted by Judith Posch on 09/06/2017 at 4:33 PM

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TruB - Are you on drugs? Yes, please people - search my name. You're not going to see any support for white nationalism, and in fact will see the opposite. You are lying.

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Posted by William Snell on 09/06/2017 at 3:04 PM

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If anyone cares to search William Snell he believes in white nationalism and spends a great deal of time gas lighting that the left is oppressing him. I find that when conservatives go big in a rant it is because no one has the time to dispute every last incorrect item in that rant.

William - you don't notice your privilege because you don't want to admit that your Irish ancestors just walked off a boat. Thinking that the cops following you around is anything like being pulled over because of the color of your skin is showing your privileged. The hours you spend on breitbart (which also leaves a trail) talking about how the right isn't violent proves my assumption. You seem to believe there is something called a 'black privileged card' which is why you believe you are being oppressed.

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Posted by TruB on 09/06/2017 at 1:57 PM

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I'm white Irish, and yet I'm seemingly unaffected by this "white privilege" I'm told about. In my 20's cops would frequently tail my car, as they did with many young drivers, and that was annoying. Now I'm older and married and drive a min-van, so this doesn't happen anymore, but I do face other issues. I'm a little under average height and am stocky with muscle. Something about my look guarantees that I'll be selected for "random extra screening" at every stop at every airport I fly through. Happens every time, and I'm a jeans and t-shirt kind of a guy.

I want to address your two "dog whistles". First, about white people being an oppressed minority or some such. White people are not a minority in Western countries, so that's out right away. It's very hard to argue with the fact that blatant and hostile racism against white people is considered completely acceptable on most media, as well as YouTube, which will yank a video that even obliquely criticizes a minority group. It's common to see outright calls for violence against white people, without the slightest pushback from anyone on the left.

It's also difficult to see how you could contest that points in the Oppression Olympics are prized by leftists. This is a demonstrable fact. You know how I know I'm dealing with a leftist? Their bio is filled with information about their race, sexual orientation, gender status, preferred pronouns, etc. Conservatives don't do this. When listening to ANY leftist speak, the most common phrase is something like, "As a woman of color..."

But I also really want to address your idiocy about white people not being denied a voice in discussions about social justice. This is also a demonstrable fact. It's common for white people to be told they can't speak on issues because they're white. It isn't even difficult to find hours of videos showing exactly this kind of behavior on the left. Your contention that historical politicians were white is so stupid I hardly know where to begin. I'm assuming you're not really this stupid, and understand exactly how flawed your point was. What a President's skin color 100 years ago means absolutely nothing in a discussion about current social justice issues. Or more to the point, the abandonment of personal responsibility for group responsibility the left has embraced.

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Posted by William Snell on 09/06/2017 at 9:19 AM

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Gray:

"Being born in a country does not, by itself, suffice to make the birth country an individuals country of origin for purposes of being included within a designated group."

It's a rebuttable presumption, not a guarantee, to those in these groups.

Are you saying 13 CFR 124.103 is "subversive to White privilege?" I haven't seen a lot of white entrepreneurs pushed out of government contracts by citizens of the Tonga Islands. Did I miss something?

As for the $740K in assets, I think that's probably a reasonable minimum for a government contract. It's not good policy to enter into contracts with someone who has $50 in the bank.

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Posted by Bill W. on 09/06/2017 at 6:21 AM

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This section of a US Federal Regulation seems to be subversive to White privilege?This is a section of the Federal regulations listing people who, by virtue of racial groupings get a step up for government contracting purposes.The next section, 104, will say these preferred people can have assets of 740,000 dollars and still be considered disadvantaged.

740K is a lot of disadvantage.

From the Code of Federal Regulations.
13 CFR 124.103 Who is socially disadvantaged?
(a) General. Socially disadvantaged individuals are those who have been subjected to racial or ethnic prejudice or cultural bias within American society because of their identities as members of groups and without regard to their individual qualities. The social disadvantage must stem from circumstances beyond their control.
(b) Members of designated groups. (1) There is a rebuttable presumption that the following individuals are socially disadvantaged: Black Americans; Hispanic Americans; Native Americans (Alaska Natives, Native Hawaiians, or enrolled members of a Federally or State recognized Indian Tribe); Asian Pacific Americans (persons with
origins from Burma, Thailand, Malaysia, Indonesia, Singapore, Brunei,
Japan, China (including Hong Kong), Taiwan, Laos, Cambodia (Kampuchea),
Vietnam, Korea, The Philippines, U.S. Trust Territory of the Pacific Islands (Republic of Palau), Republic of the Marshall Islands, Federated States of Micronesia, the Commonwealth of the Northern Mariana Islands, Guam, Samoa, Macao, Fiji, Tonga, Kiribati, Tuvalu, or Nauru); Subcontinent Asian Americans (persons with origins from India, Pakistan, Bangladesh, Sri Lanka, Bhutan, the Maldives Islands or Nepal); and
members of other groups designated from time to time by SBA according to procedures set forth at paragraph (d) of this section. Being born in a country does not, by itself, suffice to make the birth country an individuals country of origin for purposes of being included within a designated group.

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Posted by Gray Liddell on 09/06/2017 at 5:39 AM

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