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Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

Do some research! The Morrill act was the primary cause of the Civil War. Not Slaves. In fact Lincoln and Sherman had Slaves. Jefferson Davis did not. When Lincoln could not gain support against the South...he used slavery as a selling point. However, even after the Horrid war against the South was over. The North KEPT their slaves until YEARS later! HISTORY has been rewritten to serve the purpose of the Northern Government...same way they whitewashed the genocide of the Native Americans.

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Posted by Melanie B Jennings on 06/08/2017 at 4:17 PM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

Wyman is correct. In 2013 Walter Williams, a black economist, whose forebears were slaves, in a 2013 column exposed Lincoln's beliefs toward blacks and illuminated the reasons for the Civil War. Lincoln was actually a racist whose main war objective was preserving federal revenue and NOT freeing the slaves.…

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Posted by curious on 06/08/2017 at 2:00 PM

Re: “Molly Boyles returns to the Springs with Blue Moll

Excellent! Who here remembers 929 shows at the Underground?

Posted by Jah Dave on 06/08/2017 at 12:02 PM

Re: “Strawberry Fields argument filed with appellate court

Thank you Pam Zubeck and the Independent for this timely update. The fight to save Strawberry Fields is far from over. As this case moves through the judicial system, its importance as precedent grows ever more clear. A win for Save Cheyenne will mean a step up for people who now have little voice when attempting to prevent the loss of public lands to privatization in their hometowns. From Indiana to California, Massachusetts to Georgia, the outcome of this case here in Colorado will have enormous ramifications across the country. Make no mistake, a loss will put publicly-owned parkland at much higher risk of commercialization - from sea to shining sea. Please consider a donation to the legal fund at

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Posted by doonya on 06/08/2017 at 9:49 AM

Re: “Douglas Bruce properties in Denver at issue

Zen obviously has no "FACTS" on the political targeting of Douglas Bruce. Citizens of Colorado have no idea of the corruption in Denver.

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Posted by LadyLiberty on 06/08/2017 at 9:35 AM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

I understand that the substitute only saw a snapshot of the overall instruction going on but I think the response --this is what we always teach or we are just teaching what many schools across the country teach about this subject--just speaks to underlying issues in general. Wow!

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Posted by Sam1789 on 06/08/2017 at 7:14 AM

Re: “Commissioner Littleton proposing planning for the worst

Ham radio, while a quaint and reliable 'old school' communication method, could not possibly meet the requirements of communicating to a population that is cell phone and television oriented. In fact it would have the effect of channeling information through voice relay, the least reliable form of communication (remember the telephone game?).
The existing reverse 911 voice, data and text system with support from local cell service providers, who already have emergency power generation for their systems is a more robust solution, and youre most of the way, if not all the way there already. A solar flare or similar electromagnetic radiation incident with the energy to knock out the electrical grid is going to impact all RF communications for days or weeks anyway.
Blizzards are rare and may cause problems, but only for two, maybe three days, especially here, where the climate will sublimate the problem away in short order, and we are not as vulnerable to coal delivery delays as we once were. The infrastructure already exists and emergency management already has the tools to implement a communication plan which I am sure a city and county of this size must have. If there are still comms. issues, and there were many identified during the Waldo Canyon and Black Forest wildfires, they should be addressed, but a 1950s civil defense plan is not the answer. Finally, the last thing the county needs to do is hire another gofer to Interface, liaise, analyze, or study some ill-defined non-existent problem.

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Posted by rangesaf on 06/08/2017 at 12:23 AM

Re: “Douglas Bruce properties in Denver at issue

Boo hoo. Maybe if Bruce wasn't such a pig he wouldn't have such a problem. Clean up your crap, Doug.

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Posted by Zen on 06/08/2017 at 12:20 AM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

Bob Wyman please seek immediate medical attention. You seem to be having a stroke and are typing incoherently.

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Posted by TruB on 06/07/2017 at 8:54 PM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

Kudos to Joseph Kaplan. Thank you for bringing to the attention that a school is teaching inaccurate history. So often conservatives want to claim that it is liberals who are indoctrinating students and teaching inaccurate history in schools.

Of course the confederacy should be taught. It is a part of History. The statements in this article seem to have a great deal of bias within the lessons. Kaplan has caught d-11 over stepping history and the Dept. of Ed should review the curriculum.

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Posted by TruB on 06/07/2017 at 8:50 PM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

happyfew , Let them succeed at what?

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 06/07/2017 at 7:24 PM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

My grandpa said it was not about slavery but keeping the Union together. Is he right or wrong? He was from North Carolina.

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 06/07/2017 at 7:23 PM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

E.g. Schwetje:
Can you explain how the war came about? Did Congress pass legislation outlawing slavery and certain states refused to obey so a war started? Union soldiers felt so strongly that they enlisted and risked life and limb to save slaves? How did it happen that a line was drawn that indicated on this side they want slaves and the other side of the line they do not?
Is maligning US citizens still to this day, those that live in southern states part of the surrender agreement?
The Confederate Battle Flag is being called a "symbol of hate" so that means that people in southern states that seceded hated Africans so much that they actually went to Africa to capture them and bring them here to be slaves so they could be hated openly? Why did they hate people they never met and was it southerners that invented slavery?
When the south surrendered what were the slaves told to do? Were they told "You are free, run along now. Here is some cash for a room"?
Were slaves paid anything to be slaves or paid anything to be free? Is being paid one dollar a day for say, 10 hours of labor considered slavery? Or is a wage a wage no matter how little and would support that kind of pay for people today?

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 06/07/2017 at 7:20 PM

Re: “Police left buried under a mountain of marijuana and red tape as weed laws change

The police are just feeling the DTs coming down off that drug war high they had going over the last 5 decades. They'll get clean in a few years when the hard core addicts start retiring.

Posted by Nobody Special on 06/07/2017 at 3:15 PM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

Since Don McCullen can't find his own ass with both hands, it's really nice to see so many citizens handing it (his ass) to him, no strings attached. Bravo!!

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Posted by Jeff Hirtle on 06/07/2017 at 3:14 PM

Re: “D-11 sees legal threat over Confederate lesson

racist rednecks still to this day deny full citizenship to African americans by creating voting obstacles in most of the south. these states are still a money pit for our country... perhaps we should let them succeed...

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Posted by happyfew on 06/07/2017 at 2:43 PM

Re: “Cops can destroy seized marijuana, even if you're growing it legally

If police can't return improperly seized marijuana then they must be required to obtain a warrant prior to seizing ANY amount of marijuana to ensure due process. Allowing them to seize first and then have no mechanism for returning it means that the due process afforded by the amendment would be null and void. If Colorado judges have any brains this will hurt the police more than help them.

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Posted by Nobody Special on 06/07/2017 at 2:38 PM

Re: “Judge slaps political committee in local metro district with record high penalty

To this end Mr. Pace wants to go on record and thank the following for their tireless assistance and at great risk to themselves and jobs.

Colorado Department of Public Health and Environment
El Paso County Regional Building Department and records section
Colorado Department of Local Affairs.
Colorado Secretary of State (not Wayne Williams)
Some EPSO staff and you know who you are, LOL
State of North Carolina
State of Texas
Pam Zubeck (got it right this time)
Lindsey Harrison (New Falcon Herald)
Andy Koen (KOAA News)
Judge Chittum
Mr. Miller my lawyer
Special District Association
My Public Defender who is a fighter
My friends at US Bank
There are more but they didn't want the notoriety

12+ ex-employees of Woodmen Hills who risked their jobs to speak to me over the years in fear of retaliation by one ex-board member who controls Woodmen Hills behind the scenes.

Special thanks to Matt Arnold of CIW for his tireless effort to expose corruption.

A recall of all board members is coming soon enough to Woodmen Hills and it's time to wipe the slate.

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Posted by gimmie a break on 06/07/2017 at 12:31 PM

Re: “Judge slaps political committee in local metro district with record high penalty

For those who are lying and hiding the truth is coming out about bought and paid for elections by millionaires who have a financial stake in Woodmen Hills.
What isn't being put out is the name of the person who has been telling these "wealthy men" about Mr. Pace to begin with, they are board members and ex- board members in the local community as shown in their own admissions on several social media sites thru the years. They would tell the real owners of Woodmen Hills that one person asking questions isn't a "team player" and isn't for sale.
My site exposed the names of who got monies and assistance by these "wealthy men" and others over the last 4 elections. Those same people spent over 200,000.00 to keep Mr. Pace off their board.
As for my financial issues, most are a direct result of defending Woodmen Hills actions and one is from trying to stop the flyers and other such claims and civil actions over the years. They hauled me and my family into court on countless occasions directly and via employees.
As the record shows tried in vain to have me jailed by EPSO who were more than happy to help them out. We came here debt free and now after filing BK still over 125,000.00.
These Oscar winners smeared my children's and wifes name in the community all for the express purpose of winning elections. I simply fought back and they called me every name in the book.

How bad did it get well after one issue where they tried to start a fight one employee got in my face and wanted to fight and ordered me off the property. Property we were paying to use. She is another Emmy winner. She sent my information to one of the developers to alert them I was running for the seat. She's a real winner.

One elected official told community members I was a stalker, no kidding! She is the one who controls Woodmen Hills as shown to the public at meeting who is the person who is one of the CRRRG board members.
Want to know the name of the Emmy award winning loser? Go to my web site and read who she is and how she controls Woodmen Hills. Don't take my word for it get the facts. It will piss you off to know it still goes on to this day.
Buying elections is NOT how democracy works. Woodmen Hills by and though its generous contributors bought elections for the express purpose of hindering CORA requests and financial affairs of Woodmen Hills under the ruse I was a "problem" and a "danger" to their way of doing business.
Mr. Pace asked a questions in 2009 about salaries and who owns and runs Woodmen Hills the answer is in the bonds and financial records Woodmen Hills tried to keep from Mr. Pace. In Colorado Open Records Act denials. That information that showed a direct link to those who financially contribute to the past 4 elections.
Woodmen Hills has refused to surrender other public records about its financial operations and Mr. Pace did contact law enforcement agencies but they turned a blind eye to repeated attempts to put the law violations on record. Not only that I went to BOCC meetings to put it out in the publics eye.
Woodmen Hills even hired a spin doctor to put the kibosh on anything that is negative about Woodmen Hills.

Thanks Pam Z for the great story and if you want to know about Mr. Pace try asking him directly instead of asking some puppet of the district. Youll be surprised to learn who the real Mr. Pace is.

As for Mr. Paces records his law enforcement involvement it is partially tied to Woodmen Hills and their employees. Check out my site to get the facts
My web site is backed up with records and documents retrieved on my own accord.
Buying elections under false pretenses is NOT how democracy works. Woodmen Hills by and though its generous contributors bought elections all for the purpose of keeping Mr. Pace off the board because he could not be bought. My vote isn't for sale. I exposed the water and other issues with investigating reports. They didn't want the information out in the public.

The more Mr. Pace kept asking questions the more push back Woodmen Hills kept building.
The truth is Woodmen Hills district and board members as testified to in court didn't want Mr. Pace asking questions and went after him and family as shown and testified to.
Want to know who the center of it is and who kept it up over the years? Get the facts without the "spin".
How bad has it gotten? Woodmen Hills recently hired Mr. Bendelow a lawyer to handle CORA matters and since 95% of all CORA matters related directly to financial issues sought have stopped.

How worried is the board? So worried that Woodmen Hills hired a spin doctor to put the kibosh on anything that is negative about Woodmen Hills. Get the facts not the spin at the no spin zone.

Thanks Pam Z for the great story and if you want to know about Mr. Pace try asking him directly instead of asking some puppet of the district. Youll be surprised to learn who the real Mr. Pace is. Just ask Mr. Andy Koen of KOAA.

Posted by gimmie a break on 06/07/2017 at 11:51 AM

Re: “Sakura secret bar to open inside downtown ramen shop


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Posted by Lalahartma on 06/07/2017 at 10:53 AM

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