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Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

An except from 2015 EPA report cited in the EPA lawsuit that speaks to how seriously the City takes stormwater issues:

"Of the 105 projects on the CIP [Capital Improvement Program] list, it appeared that four stormwater oriented projects were included and slated for funding in 2015:
Companion Drainage Projects $412,000
Drainage Basin Planning Studies $150,000
Emergency Drainage Repairs High Priority $500,000
Infrastructure Damage Repair $80,000."

Though the City couldn't seem to find a high enough priority for much stormwater spending in 2015's Capital Improvement Budget, here's what the City DID find funding for on that list (taken from 2015 Budget):

Downtown Streetscape Project $864,000
Museum Exterior Renovation $299,550
Museum HVAC Upgrades $200,000
On-Street Bikeway Improvements $411,970
Summit House Design $1,500,000
Fire Station Bathroom Remodel: $517,625 (2019)

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/30/2017 at 12:07 AM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

With ten days to go (as of this posting date) and with only 9% of the ballots returned as of the 19th - - do you think the stormwater measure will PASS or FAIL with the voters in a low turnout election with multiple tax measures on the ballot?

Posted by Robert Gentry on 10/28/2017 at 2:19 PM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

issued needs to be addressed but charging $5 to large and small is not right, fee doesnt have to be
exact proportion, but some fairness , set Tier levels of property , such as small $2, medium $4, large $6, huge 8
small - apts, medium lot size to 5000, large lot size to 10,000, huge over 10,000 .

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Posted by apathetic on 10/28/2017 at 10:54 AM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

Man Suthers sure loves fees. I noticed he also must love him some Anschutz, odd his buddy at the Broadmoor doesnt get a big tax increase? You mean all of his land is exempt form our big city tax or fee or whatever they are trying to call it. So we get a rain tax and the Broadmoor and developers who owe huge portions of this city get nothing!!! Wake up people, odd the Gazette and the editorial staff is all for this tax ( oh yea they are owned by Anschutz/ Broadmoor) duh!

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Posted by el jef'e on 10/28/2017 at 7:58 AM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

Issue 300 passed by the votes of Colorado Springs citizens. Issue 300 did not preclude collecting stormwater "fees." What it prevented was collecting those "fees" for stormwater and letting the stormwater enterprise use those "fees" to write big fat checks to the City to be used for whatever it wanted.

After the passage of Issue 300, City Council at that time was faced with two options:

1) "Keep the fees within the stormwater enterprise to do stormwater work (instead of collecting the fees for stormwater and passing the money on to be used for whatever the City government wanted); or

2) Disband the enterprise.

Ultimately, Council disbanded the enterprise because...what's the point of collecting taxes diguised as fees if you can't put them into a city slush fund and use them how you want?

Issue 2A is openly creating a slush fund. The mayor, Skorman and others are saying, "give us stormwater money and we'll shell game the money for whatever we feel like using it for."

http://www.NoOn2A.com

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/27/2017 at 2:31 PM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

I'm sick and tired of City Counsel & the Mayor wanting more money in Fees and or Taxes and the bait and switch that is going on. When the former mayor gave away MILLIONS to Mayor Bach's buddies who retired early and now you keep telling us you need more and move money for the city budget? Now you say we don't have the money to cover for this when you already increased storm water fee before. I am a single paycheck homeowner and I refuse to pay another $5 a month or any more money for school taxes.

Also, If it is for storm water improvements, then why is the money also going to the Police funding? Why is the Marijuana tax money not going for school improvements and needs? Those taxes were added to the school budget, and then Governor diverted the State budget money designated for schools to other things. This is so WRONG!

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Posted by guruD on 10/27/2017 at 11:10 AM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

rm lady is a teabagger that would prefer to live in a third world country city if it saved her a few pennies.

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Posted by happyfew on 10/27/2017 at 9:55 AM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

Blogger Happy Few is a developer. Of course, he wants to scam lower income folks and seniors out of more money to put in his pocket.

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Posted by RM Lady Liberty on 10/27/2017 at 8:26 AM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

"bait and switch" sounds good on a bumper sticker or yard sign (i'm sure your slumlord buddy will have many of these printed) but the money will get spent one way or another. It can come from the 2A funds or it can come out of the general fund. we either pay up or screw over our cops and firemen. a 2001 increase... really... teabaggers are such cheap wads, but will be the first to bitch about things not getting taken care of. If we do not find a suitable source of funding the EPA fines will only increase so we could throw more money away that way if the teabaggers have their way... come on old fart teabaggers think long term for once.

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Posted by happyfew on 10/27/2017 at 8:18 AM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

Our water bill was ridiculous last month. Seems like CSU has plenty of our extra money already to cover that $5/month per residence.

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Posted by mizzo on 10/26/2017 at 11:16 PM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

Thanks Helen. Sounds like we need to get rid of some of these crooks in city council.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 10/26/2017 at 8:28 PM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

No way to rely upon public transportation, so the CARS crumble the infrastructure. CARS do it, cars pay! Fuel tax!

Drop the pretense of democracy.
Skorman said on the radio" when the measure fails, council will impose it anyway..."

You spent half a million for nothing!
Where can we get a benevolent dictator that doesn't waste our time and money with fake elections?

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Posted by londen on 10/25/2017 at 2:59 PM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

The mayor and even Mr Skorman admit: the money collected will pay for other things--not stormwater. Openly bait and switch.

It can also be raised as easily as the City settling the lawsuit and agreeing to higher amount or amending the "promise" made to Pueblo. [That promis amounts to a debt that should have been submittited to voters as required by the City Charter] The agreement with Pueblo even has a clause allowing for politicians to "agree" on an amount the City must pay to fund the Fountain Creek Watershed district with no upper limit.

Would you write a blank check to anyone in your family? Would you write one to politicians who mislead you daily?

The lawsuit cites the City's failure to hold developers accountable and its propensity to grant waivers to developers, some resulting in tens of millions of breaks to developers. Yet neither Council nor the administration have proposed any changes to the City ordinances or policies that allowed these things to happen. And it is the very developers who benefited from the City's unwillingness to hold them accountable who are most fervent about you, Colorado Springs citizens, paying for it with
no changes about how business is done.

Much on the myths and truths of Issue 2A here with links to actual documents, not just obtuse referral to big scary storms:

http://www.NoOn2A.com

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/25/2017 at 11:44 AM

Re: “Twelve false claims about 2A

Thank you, Helen!

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 10/25/2017 at 11:18 AM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

There is no way the problems from 40 or more years of neglecting our regional stormwater system will be solved by complaining about why the solutions might cost some of us more money than others - fact is we are all in this together. To do nothing or continue this shuffle inadequate amounts of money from one City funding source or another has not and never will work. We must start somewhere. We had a good start once and then the no rain tax group headed by Mr. Bruce and the never saw a fee they didn't call a tax voters in this community repealed it. The City Council at the time caved to the vocal but loud resisters, Now we are years down the road and the problem has only gotten worse. It is now or never - continue to argue about how to fund this needed infrastructure maintenance and the cost will still continue going up and up. it is time for us as a community to take responsibility for our runoff.

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Posted by rms on 10/25/2017 at 10:45 AM

Re: “Let’s fix stormwater now

it was a mistake when slumlord bruce stopped the previous stormwater funding. lets fix the mistake and start being a responsible future looking city.

now the short sighted teabaggers can bitch and moan about why they are so cheap and don't want to pay a few pennies...

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Posted by happyfew on 10/25/2017 at 8:37 AM

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