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Re: “Bruce battles on, drug take-backs scheduled for Saturday, more

I am glad that Mr. Bruce continues to monitor these ballot writers and tax proposals. More people should have cared when Sally Clark worded the ballot to give her a 3rd term to squeeze the tax payers out of a bigger salary and retirement package. More voters should be angry about being talked to into this worthless strong mayor. More voters should see through that the PPRTA tax doesn't sunset just the project list.

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Posted by TruB on 09/27/2015 at 4:29 PM

Re: “Bruce battles on, drug take-backs scheduled for Saturday, more

In Tuesday’s Gazette front-page article regarding the mayor’s feasibility study to determine if private money will fund the “controversial sports and event center”, the Gazette did not use the word “stadium”, not once, not ever. Is it now official Gazette policy to avoid the word “stadium”, seeing how inflammatory that word is, inciting as it does a flurry of angry emails to the mayor and council members from citizens opposed to spending scarce public dollars on a useless stadium instead of on potholes?

A feasibility study is not needed. City Leaders know – and have known for 2 years – that no private investors or benefactors will put THEIR dollars into a stadium, no matter how effective it may be as a catalyst for the building of much desired – by City Leaders and developers – downtown skyscrapers.

Another objective of the study is to determine what types of sports groups might use the stadium and how much revenue it would generate. Again, City Leaders have had 2 years to figure this out and the result is, there are no known users and no known revenue.

OTOH, it is possible that if the $300M stadium was eliminated, private investors or donors might fund a $25M something or other to take its place. Entrepreneur/developer Sanders sees a need for a convention center to help fill his hotel rooms and he might be willing to build a convention center next door to the iconic and visionary Olympic museum – using his own dollars, of course. Maybe billionaire Anschutz would be willing to split the $25M cost with Sanders. Or maybe not, since the Anschutz owned Broadmoor has its own convention center, which will be competing with Aurora’s convention center, and from Anschutz POV, more competition in the convention biz is understandably undesirable.

The best solution to this problem with no viable solution is to put the stadium to a vote of the citizens, who can be relied upon to vote No to taxpayer funding, which will be the end of the matter.

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Posted by curious on 09/25/2015 at 12:16 AM

Re: “IA scrutinizes sergeant, expanded bus service coming, Dems get new director, and more

$43K down the drain. $43K squandered for no purpose. The Gazette reported last Friday that Council President Bennett said, "It's a huge waste of time and money, because all we can do is say, 'Don't do it again.'"

$43K isn't the end of wasted taxpayer dollars. The Council will seek another judge and continue on to their bitter goal of publicly chastising Collins. Ironically, the City Code of Ethics is only concerned with City employees/officials behavior while conducting business for the City. The Code does not apply to Collins since the property transfer was a private - not a City - transaction. There was no criminal act. There was no unethical act.

The purpose of the Ethics Code is to intimidate City employees and officials who are deemed to be disloyal to the City and unsupportive of the goals of City Leaders. The Ethics Code does nothing to protect citizens from genuine wrongful behavior of public servants. The Code should be abolished.

Posted by curious on 09/21/2015 at 8:57 PM

Re: “Klingenschmitt blasts gays, Maketa investigation moves, and more

The two faces of Pam Zubeck on display.

In her original article, Pam stated that Klingenschmitt said "it's better to drown gay scoutmasters than allow them to participate in Boy Scouts of America". I called her out on that lie immediately. Now in this article, she somehow fails to mention the words that Klingenschmitt never said, but formed the basis of her smear-mongering headline and article.

We're still waiting for the time stamp of the video segment pointing us to the words you reported coming from Klingenschmitt. What gives, Pam?

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Posted by PacksA9 on 08/21/2015 at 3:43 PM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

COnative59- Then what did you mean by 'getting hit with the social and legal system impacts of legal pot'? I read that as you acknowledging recreational MJ's negative effects on society.

Sounds like we will both vote against the Mayor's flawed tax increase.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 08/21/2015 at 3:22 PM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

PacksA9 -- obviously, I don't consider Manitou Springs decision to be the irresponsible one between our two municipalities. Colo Spgs is the irresponsible one, and ignoring the will of the voters as well as ignoring the potentially generous tax revenue stream that could alleviate many of the problems the mayor and counsel want a higher sales tax for, is just plain ignorant. I really hope the citizens are smart enough to vote down the sales tax increase request, again.

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Posted by COnative59 on 08/21/2015 at 9:46 AM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

Sorry, but this new tax for five years of road maintenance is a no go for me, for a couple of reasons:

1. The city seems to have no LONG TERM plan for maintaining our roads. Until it has such a plan how can it possibly know how much tax money is needed and for how long?

2. Until C4C is brought up for a vote how can we be sure that general fund money that should be going to road maintenance and other purposes isn't being re-allocated to C4C projects?


We let them gut the parks and rec department. We let them shut down the majority of our bus routes. We let them sell-out the hospital. We let them turn off the street lights.

Enough is enough. It is time to hold people accountable for running this city for the long term, not just let them careen from crisis to crisis by asking for handouts.

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Posted by CSIndyReader on 08/19/2015 at 3:15 PM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

COnative59- How is adding even more 'social and legal system impact' to Colorado Springs the right course of action? Perhaps the better choice would be for Colorado Springs to invoice Manitou for the social and legal system impact of THEIR irresponsible retail MJ decision.

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Posted by PacksA9 on 08/15/2015 at 11:06 AM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

Our City Council voted 5-4 in 2013 to prohibit recreational marijuana sales. In September 2013, the council voted against putting the issue on the ballot for voters to decide in April. With Manitou Springs reaping the benefits from Colo Spgs recreational pot purchases, we are getting hit with the social and legal system impacts of legal pot without realizing any of the revenue benefits from sales tax collections.

The voters in Colo Springs passed Amendment 64 in 2012, narrowly, but it did pass. Until this city’s mayor and council put an issue on the upcoming ballot to allow the sales and taxation of recreational marijuana in the city, I don’t think any of us should vote for an increase in our sales tax. Why aren’t they looking at a potentially large tax revenue stream to help increase our budget for our crumbling roads and infrastructure – BEFORE asking us again to pass an in-general sales tax increase????

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Posted by COnative59 on 08/13/2015 at 10:54 AM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

I remember this like it was yesterday. Within weeks of the proposal being shot down after the vote it was reported on all the news stations that El Paso county was going to continue to build the jail addition and where the money would be taken from. Hello? Anybody notice in last 8 years there aren't as many buses? Anybody notice how are roads have all become worse for wear? Funny how the story changed from then till now. Now its "We used COPS to pay for the jail addition and no money was ever taken from public programs" yet thats exactly what was reported and it is those very same programs which are crap today. Coincidence?

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Posted by Randall Flagg on 08/12/2015 at 3:36 PM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

Randall Flagg, To be clear, the jail addition was built by El Paso County using certificates of participation. COPs have been declared legal by the courts but are considered by some as an end-run around the Taxpayer's Bill of Rights, which requires all debt and tax increases to be approved by voters. COPs don't require voter approval. County commissioners decided to use COPs after the ballot measure failed. So, there was no city money used to build this addition. The city didn't take money from road maintenance, public transportation and parks to help fund the jail.

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Posted by Pam Zubeck on 08/12/2015 at 11:07 AM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

I want to hear someone come out and tell us what Bach and the previous City Council did with our tax money that was previously earmarked for roads. I want to know SPECIFICS of where every dime of that money went. Bach, a Republican, as is every City official, dropped the ball! He and the Republican City Council COMPLETELY ignored the roads which is why we are in this mess. I suggest that every other project now, be put on the back burner (as road maintenance was) until all roads are repaired and repaved. Thanks for this mess, Bach!

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Posted by Marilyn Bomash on 08/12/2015 at 10:54 AM

Re: “Homelessness easing, potholes tax headed to ballot, and more

The city of Colorado Springs is once again trying to pull one over on it's residents. If any of you remember about 8 years ago El Paso county wanted a tax increase to build the addition on the jail. The tax was on the ballot and it was promptly voted down (I know because I voted no on it) but they built it anyways. Do you know where they got the money? They got it from ROAD MAINTENANCE, Public transportation (Buses) and other public works programs like parks and rec. Now it is 7 years later and our roads are in dire shape? Well of course they are and its because of that stupid multi million dollar addition on the jail!! The roads didn't fall into immediate disrepair, it took 7 years and now the residents of Colorado Springs are being taxed for over $50 million which is more then the original cost of the jail addition that the road maintenance fund was raped for.

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Posted by Randall Flagg on 08/12/2015 at 9:53 AM

Re: “County board candidates, potholes, a new police substation, and more

"Manitou police said the fire posed a danger to others." And yet there was 0 victims and no one was harmed. Seems the threat doesn't exist in reality. So, in this conservative county, it's obvious your freedom of speech means nothing if they can charge you for a victimless crime that nothing happened at. Cha-ching. The Law Enforcement in this county is all about the benjamins.

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Posted by Jinxx32 on 07/29/2015 at 2:41 PM

Re: “County board candidates, potholes, a new police substation, and more

"More room for cops" - No wonder this city has no money for fixing potholes or cutting weeds, as they are constantly buy new land at top dollar and selling existing city buildings for pennies on the dollar. Paying 3 times the market value for the land is a sweet deal for the seller, not the taxpayer.

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Posted by CSIndyReader on 07/29/2015 at 10:06 AM

Re: “County board candidates, potholes, a new police substation, and more

"More room for cops" - so, you can't add-on to the existing building? and now that the city is admitting that the current site has drainage problems, your going to try and sell it - probably for a big loss.

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Posted by boomer47 on 07/29/2015 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Drones coming to Carson, plan for high-risk houses, and more

"In the meantime, you have not offered up a single link yourself."

You want a single link? Here's a single link (although, "you will pooh-pooh my sources..."):

Former Iraqi pilots training ISIS fighters to fly captured Syrian jets, rights group says…

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/25/2015 at 11:50 PM

Re: “Drones coming to Carson, plan for high-risk houses, and more

"Radical Islam was burning people alive and slashing throats long before Bush/Cheney and the oh so evil cheerleader pyramid they made at Abu Ghraib."

First of all, you are defending Bush and Cheney, so you are the "Abu Ghraib cheerleader!"

Second, when you use the phrase "Radical Islam" you ought to make it clear what you mean is that all of Islam is radical, that Islam is a radical religion--not that there is a moderate wing of Islam opposed to the radical wing.

By the way, Christians were also fond of burning people at the stake long before Bush/Cheney.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/25/2015 at 11:26 PM

Re: “Drones coming to Carson, plan for high-risk houses, and more

"You will pooh-pooh my sources because that's how lefties counter."

If and when that ever happens you will have a right to criticize me for it. In the meantime you are trying to stereotype me, which is how you ended up missing the fact that I actually agreed with you on the main point of US military spending. Furthermore, you are trying to bluff your way out of the corner you painted yourself into. If you have the evidence, cite it; don't waste electrons explaining how devastating your arguments could have been if you were not too lazy to produce them here.

"Then I could fill 12 vertical inches of comment space with direct quotes from the sources." And most of it redundant if not irrelevant. You did manage to mention one actual fact, from your wonderful sources. "...about the origin of the specific group known as ISIS. Did you know those roots go back to 1999?"

In 1999, Saddam Hussein still ruled Iraq and his military was tasked with suppressing groups like ISIS. It was not until after he and his military were thrown out of office that the former commanders allied themselves with ISIS, and not until the US left Iraq that ISIS broke out and started capturing territory. We know that ISIS fighters are equipped with sophisticated weaponry they captured from the regular Iraqi army, but where did they get their training on this equipment and where did they get their military discipline, in general, if not from the disbanded former military of Iraq?

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/25/2015 at 11:11 PM

Re: “Drones coming to Carson, plan for high-risk houses, and more

"ISIS was not the topic of this thread - US military spending is." ISIS was brought up by the first people to comment on the topic of US military spending.

"You have completely ignored my points on that." You really need to get reading glasses. Far from ignoring your points, I wrote, "As for your main point, I am in total agreement."

"Case closed." Indeed!

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 07/25/2015 at 10:48 PM

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