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Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

the cover up is as bad or worse than the crime... when are people going to realize this? admit mistakes, don't order people to break the rules. go after these cover uppers. we may not know for sure if the notary is required but we do know this cover up was against the law... c'mon law enforcement... enforce the law!! this good ol' boy attitude in law enforcement has lead to much of the disdain they are experiencing.

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Posted by happyfew on 11/09/2017 at 8:45 AM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits


Yes, the people who ordered them to unlawfully notarize the forms are guilty of a crime, to wit:

18-8-306. Attempt to influence a public servant.
Any person who attempts to influence any public servant by means of deceit or by threat of violence or economic reprisal against any person or property, with the intent thereby to alter or affect the public servant's decision, vote, opinion, or action concerning any matter which is to be considered or performed by him or the agency or body of which he is a member, commits a class 4 felony.

And they SHOULD be charged with the above crime. Coercing a public servant, which a Notary is, to perform an unlawful act out of fear for their jobs is a perfect example of why the above statute was written. But.... will anyone in a position of authority do anything about it? That is the problem here. People seem to just get away with everything.

You probably remember when Maketa's scandal blew up. Everyone noted that there were signs of problemS, even an article here on the Independent a year prior, and everyone asked "Why was nothing done earlier?" Well, people should ask themselves that exact question today. There are plenty of signs that things are evil at the Sheriff's Office.


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Posted by Mike Randall on 11/09/2017 at 7:49 AM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

you would rather have Clinton bombing Syria and the rest of dozens of countries by drone? I don't know which of the two is better- but the least the Army and Air Force could do is stop wearing their goddamn combat uniform out in public.

Thanks, from another Service Member--

Eat it

Posted by KyleJS on 11/09/2017 at 1:36 AM

Re: “One chronicle of street (and other sexual) harassment in Colorado Springs

I think what i find frustrating here is that it feels like this savior-fetish that a lot of men are feeling right now. It's like street harassment and workplace assault and all other abuse we endure is now a genre of pulp fiction that is always explicit, titillating, and then ends on a note of sanctimony. You say you're trying to understand- and I'm going to take you at your word, but if so, can we look together at where you need to work? First, like much pulp fiction, you have a weird fixation on her physicality here, whether you meant it that way or not. Sure, it provides a theme, but I'm 5'8" and I've been raped twice by age 39 and experience the exact same crap on the street despite being well past my prime as the standards go - as do my friends who both fit and don't fit the fantasies of the male sexual gaze of little and innocent (do you think you might be fixating on this as a factor as a result of your own gaze?). Do you think if I was a few inches taller I could've pushed him off me more easily? Sure, it can be true if you happen to have a visible identity that coincides with a porn category, you're extra screwed (pun intended) if you try to exist in public, but there's no shortage of dudes that literally harass every woman who walks by. Even old ugly hags like me. Second, stop it with the self-congratulatory humility here. You're probably feeling pretty great that you brought this to our attention... newsflash: women already know this. And guess what? So do men. You just don't know if we know that you know, so of course, you gotta publish your woke-ness so we know you're one of the special men, one of the good guys. Well, we know that too. Look, nobody thinks all men are rapists, or that you're all culpable on a personal level for the patriarchy and misogyny that creates rape culture. But we also know there is a lot of gray area that our good guy allies walk around in. And we can't tell you where you need to draw the line - because we aren't in those spaces, at least not the full us. If you really wanted to do something to stop and change all this, (here's my Third point) do this: Instead of a salacious description of all the dirty things we encounter on the street as reported by a definitely-not-turned-on-boyfriend-asserting-his-territorial-claim, give us an honest, vulnerable assessment of the ways YOU have failed us. Tell us that you're conflicted with (it's probably in your porn history) and the ways you worry you've failed us. Tell us what you think is unfair. Ask us what we want you know. Ask us to help you be better and share your failures and your remorse. Don't speak for us. Don't explain the shit we deal with to us or for us. Dont save us. Save yourself my friend. We been out here for years and we're working on saving our damn selves. You do that.

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Posted by Olympe de Gouges on 11/08/2017 at 11:31 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

My guess is that the people who ordered the notaries to sign are guilty of some crime. Holding out something of value to force a public officer to exercise his duties unlawfully is probably some sort of corrupt influencing or public intimidation . The notaries should have refused, taken the consequences, and sued the ever-lovin' out of the sheriff and his corrupt-influencing , public intimidating staff. I'd say the sheriff and his staff are guilty if there is a criminal statute on the books dealing with their behavior in this case.

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Posted by ArchieB on 11/08/2017 at 11:20 PM

Re: “Notary duties by the book

It seems all that which Pam Zubek has so excellently reported (as is usual for her) will be ignored by those being exposed.
This truly proves to me the wrong folk are controlling COUNTY OF EL PASO inc., with the "elected" puppets doing as their handlers direct them. Satan's municipal corporate system of governance needs to be dissolved ASAP, as it is clear they won't follow their own statutory policies and will fake whatever is necessary to continue the plunder of the populace.

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Posted by gregaj7 on 11/08/2017 at 11:09 PM

Re: “One chronicle of street (and other sexual) harassment in Colorado Springs

Powerful. Sobering. Shocking. And all together too real, for too many, for far too long.

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 11/08/2017 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

"Citizen of this planet" "World citizen"


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Posted by Stain K. Hensley on 11/08/2017 at 7:50 PM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

Hey let me add LCpl USMC (BadASS), because I'm a Marine!

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Posted by Rob Hicks on 11/08/2017 at 7:27 PM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

That is an opinion, but it is not shared by all veterans or those still active. I never understood why Light Colonels are always the ones to include their rank in any correspondence even in retirement.

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Posted by Rob Hicks on 11/08/2017 at 7:10 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

Way to pander to your Liberal base!! New low for Zubeck. Why mention Swasey? I know, to grab the readers attention as if it is relevant to Garret's service and sacrifice at Planned Parenthood! Shame on you CSINDY!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/08/2017 at 6:41 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

@MikeRandall ... Dan May is just as bad as Bill Elder. They are a match made in ... well, I think you know where I am going with that one! It's a shame that the elected "leadership" in this county is so corrupt. It is quite sickening.

Interesting note about the KRW report. So, glad you brought that one up!

Hey Pam ... let's get a copy!!!

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Posted by Asher777 on 11/08/2017 at 6:22 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

As so many of us know, Bill Elder actually has a black heart. He is driven by evil. He began to show his true colors when he and his boy band started their crap late 2013 before he even took office, but so many thought he was the almighty savior and here today we see another example that he is nothing more than a corrupt demon. He can't run forever. He can't continue to hide in the shadows or point the fingers at others and watch them take the fall. Regardless to the fact that he is an old fat guy, I can assure you, he cannot out run Karma.

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Posted by Asher777 on 11/08/2017 at 6:17 PM

Re: “Notary duties by the book

The Garrett Swasey reference is a low blow even for Zubeck. It's irrelevant and disrespectful! Shame on you Pam! It has nothing to do with Swasey's sacrifice. Disgusting!!

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Posted by Holmes on 11/08/2017 at 6:06 PM

Re: “El Pueblo History Museum’s Indigenous Film Festival explores themes of borderlands

Mau Piailug practiced Satawalese (Micronesian) navigation. Not Polynesian navigation. He taught these techniques to the Polynesian Voyaging Society, but they are not Polynesian techniques.

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Posted by diliaur on 11/08/2017 at 5:59 PM

Re: “Pikes Peak Market opens to public

The lack of production space is what will doom the folks trying to peddle their wares. That's the reason I decided not to put in a booth for our bakery. You have to sell alot of product in order to pay for the booth and the off-site production facility. I wish them the best of luck and hopefully it will allow them to get a much larger place and production facility.

4 likes, 1 dislike
Posted by Shawn Saunders on 11/08/2017 at 5:33 PM

Re: “The Air Force Academy’s committed to its academic booster program. But at what cost?

general jay needs too apologize too the student body @ the academy! with this kinda thing a person needs too load their brain before one shoots ones mouth! what will the general do when he spots a bunch of knellers @ any event at the academy?! an article 15 plus is what is warranted in 1966-70, and in to today. U.S.A.F., medic. and what do all the woman DO ALL AROUND YOU? IS THEIR A SORORITY THERE @ THE ACADEMY!? too diversity leads too much adversity. you cannot save all the losers General, no matter how hard you think you need too try.

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Posted by sensrbtch on 11/08/2017 at 4:41 PM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

I didn't like serving under President Reagan and Mr. Trump is the personification of why I despise the G.O.P. in general. They're happy to send young men and women into harms way but we're forgotten once our hitch is up .

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Posted by Thomas Van Cleave on 11/08/2017 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

How can anyone believes the El Paso County Sheriff's Office would changed if you elected a New Sheriff and he allowed the leadership of former Sheriff's Maketa to remain.Former Sheriff Maketa was not along in the alleged corruption within the El Paso Sheriff's Office.

Anyone who has served in a leadership role is aware of, if not all, most things the person above them is doing, especially if its been going on for almost twelve (12) years.

Most of Maketa's Senior Staff, Joe Breiste, Undersheriff, Bureau Chief Mitch Lincoln, Commander Rob King, Commander Tom DeLuca and Maketa's assistant, now Media Service, Jackie Kirby are still employed with the Sheriff's Office at their current position or has been promoted.

I believe the current situation at the Sheriff's Office is, Same Pig, Different lipstick. The alleged corruption you are seeing comes from the same old play book of the past. The same folks that played on Maketa's team is again playing on Sheriff Elder's team and corruption is in their DNA.

In the defense of Sheriff's Elder, I think he's a good guy, his heart is in the right place most time, but you can't keep the same folks that supported corruption under Maketa and expect them to change under your leadership.

The citizens of El Paso County are setting themselves up for a bigger scandal than Maketa's days. If the County Commissioners walk around with their head stuck in the sand, then you the citizens will donate again to potential legal actions.

Citizens and County Commissioners you can't defend those actions this time by stating you were not aware, Maketa left you with all the warning sign.

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Posted by Henry Allen on 11/08/2017 at 4:19 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

Several citizens have been disappointed the comprehensive audit promised by Sheriff Elder during his campaign has not been released. It's as if there was never an audit completed. The public tax paying citizens would like to know.

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Posted by RM Lady Liberty on 11/08/2017 at 3:17 PM

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