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Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

There needs to be accountability for those who broke the rules and allowed this. That is the problem with government these days - do what you want, to heck with what the tax paying citizens want or their rights. This kind of behavior is not ethical, it is not sustainable, and it should never be acceptable. We need to demand accountability and responsibility NOW.

Posted by Sandra Knauf on 12/16/2017 at 11:31 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

The Garden of the Gods park was founded with this intent: known forever as the Garden of the Gods "where it shall remain free to the public, where no intoxicating liquors shall be manufactured, sold, or dispensed, where no building or structure shall be erected except those necessary to properly care for, protect, and maintain the area as a public park." This should never have been allowed to proceed. It is detracting from the natural beauty of the park and destroys a beautiful view all in the name of the commercialism of our city. No task force or group should be allowed to deface public lands. Additionally, it has been said it will be reviewed in 2018. Why do we have to keep "undoing" projects leaders in this city think are best for the citizens? This needs to be removed immediately and recalls started for anyone in leadership who allowed this. At this rate, we should simply brand our city nepotism crony springs.

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Posted by Vikki Walton on 12/16/2017 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Do you feel:

This art/sculpture frame adds to the beauty of the park and should remain, or

Detracts from the beauty of the park and should be taken down?

http://projectoneunity.homestead.com/Garde…

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Posted by Staci6 on 12/16/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

While the G, being a daily, broke this story earlier (I believe?), the INDY (as always) is doing the heavy lifting to keep this on the front burner. Kudos also to Jill Gaebler who had the tact to nicely request the removal and the guts to suggest what the citizens were liable to do if not heard.

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Posted by John Cunningham on 12/16/2017 at 8:05 AM

Re: “Undercover officers take the stand to explain infiltration of local Socialists

Conspiring to "shut down" another group's lawful assemblies, in a violation of title 18 usc Section 241 "conspiracy against right"

Posted by Troy cates on 12/16/2017 at 6:57 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

A shameless commodification of a national natural treasure. A boneheaded mistake in all respects.

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Posted by Zen on 12/16/2017 at 2:56 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

This is tacky and doesn't belong inside the park. Maybe if they wanted to put it in the parking lot it would be less of an eyesore. The beauty of Garden of the Gods is in the natural glory of the scenery. This looks like something you would expect to find on the old boardwalk in Atlantic City NOT in one of our cities most popular tourist attractions.

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Posted by rms on 12/15/2017 at 8:10 PM

Re: “Venetucci Farm's future up in the air

I wonder what Hannigan has to say about the current decisions of the foundation he started at his kitchen table.

If I were to remain silent Id be guilty of complicity. - Albert Einstein

Posted by RickyBobby on 12/15/2017 at 7:22 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Venetucci farmers laid off as contaminated water spoils finances

Id be interested in what Hannigan has to say about all this. https://www.csbj.com/2012/09/21/aspen-valley-ranch-provides-cultural-renaissance/

It shouldnt be a surprise that the same person making decisions on the PPCF board came up with the idea for that hideous blue picture frame at Garden of the Gods thats getting such great reviews.

Posted by RickyBobby on 12/15/2017 at 7:08 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Related to former councilwoman Martin's comment:

"Jan Martin says the way the frame was handled demonstrates why it's important to get public input on such matters."

When Ms. Martin was on council, with Scott Hente, Randy Purvis, Tim Leigh and others - going way back to even when Margie Vasquez was on city council, 'public input' was something more than just a buzzword phrase. There were events, I really believe, that would have had different outcomes had 'public input' not been considered important and considered by those councils of their time.

Today, is 'public input' really worth even as much as a bucket of warm spit? To quote John Nance Garner?

The public input was to allow recreational marijuana. How is that working?

The public, when they finally heard about C4C that is now possibly C2C, gave their input and if I recall, 'public input' did not favor C4C at all!

The Stawberry Patch drama that is still ongoing. Public input was definitly against the swap.

How is that working out?

We stopped using the word 'fountain pen' years ago because it was somewhat irrelevent in that hardly anyone actually uses a fountain pen.

Perhaps the word 'public input' is one that should no longer be used? Hell, it's a word that gets used 120 times a day or so but it is like a pen with no ink coming out! There but useless.

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Posted by R Wehner on 12/15/2017 at 6:41 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

This so much reminds me of the early 50's - - when Colorado Springs had nothing going for it but it's beautiful scenery for revenue - - and people depended on tourism only from May to October hoping to be able to squirrel away enuff nuts and bucks to make it though the winter.

Fort Carson was here. Ent Air Force Base was here. And Peterson. But they were small and provided 'keep the heat on' revenue only for the locals. Norad was not. That did not come till around 54 or so as a solid, squat block windowless building located at what is now the SW corner of the parking garage at Memorial Hospital facing Boulder street.

Then, with the Interstate coming, there was opened a quarry to dynamite rocks and make gravel. Leaving that immense ugly white scar on the side of the mountains - the very mountains that people drove and flew hundreds of miles to see - and to enjoy - and to spend the money the tourist town people had to live on as their only source of revenue. Potentially threatening what was their only source of making a living at the time! Really!

I remember sitting with my Dad at the BJ Tastee Freeze just 'lickin cones' in 1957 when he explained that ugly scar on the side of the beautiful mountain:

"Knucklehead, these people probably should not be allowed to govern themselves!"

(Same Tastee Freeze that is still there at Union and Palmer Park across from what was then East Junior High School)

Janet: you 'lick cones' at the Tastee Freeze? Maybe Dad saw you.
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Posted by R Wehner on 12/15/2017 at 5:58 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Sheriff's Office blocks reporter, Indy responds via attorney

Thank you Pam!! Colorado Springs is very lucky to have you here.

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Posted by Donna Strom on 12/15/2017 at 3:54 PM

Re: “Strawberry Fields appraisal needs fresh look, citizens say

We who live on the backside of the hotel were supposed to get beautiful Brownstones as a nice transition to their convention center back in 2004. But take a look at what is happening now. A seven acre dirt parking lot has existed since then and the nearby residents must deal with their trash and dirt, hear their trucks, shuttles and their chaos. Plans change and our city government does not care what happens to residents in the area. Acrimony exists and will continue to haunt that hotel. A residential neighborhood surrounds them that must not be ignored.

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Posted by NoMoBart on 12/15/2017 at 1:23 PM

Re: “Philip Anschutz's influence knows no bounds

Take a look at what the neighborhood looks like on the backside of the convention center. I was fooled into thinking the billionaire would make things beautiful. But it's all about them. Nothing else. Ever. The hotel was once a beautiful gem so many of us adored. Now we look at their trash, deal with their dirt on our properties, hear their buses and shuttles and their chaos. These are not good business practices especially while situated in a residential neighborhood. Our acrimony will deservedly continue to haunt them.

Posted by NoMoBart on 12/15/2017 at 12:44 PM

Re: “Undercover officers take the stand to explain infiltration of local Socialists

history is repeating itself - during the late 50s and throughout the 60s the fbi infiltrated groups that threatened the status quo - the purpose was to discredit and disrupt any challenges to the establishment. today we have a republican party that declares open class warfare with its tax cuts for the rich and a democrat party that seems satisfied with claiming a moral high ground thus providing the people with justifiable reason to pursue political parties which are the only opposition party in town therefore the state can be exhibited to use the same tactics as were used by cointelpro of the 60s. firing these officers is the tip of the iceberg.

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Posted by Yova on 12/14/2017 at 6:35 PM

Re: “Former El Paso County Sheriff’s Office notary says top officials ordered falsifying of hundreds of oath affidavits

Pam Zubeck, great job in following through with this. I hope the citizens of El Paso County put pressure on the sheriff and county officials including the DA, if he is implicated. I'm also pleased to see that your employers followed through with an attorney to back you up. The newspaper company I recently left never had my back!

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Posted by Paul Hurschmann on 12/14/2017 at 5:53 PM

Re: “Colorado Springs news: County pension checks a go; PERA head passes away; PPACG names leader; Memorial Hospital adds board members

"The last COLA just 2 percent was given in 2005. One-time bonus checks have been given in 1995, 2004, 2006 and 2007. Since then, retirees havent received either a COLA or a bonus payment. Thats why theyre struggling to make ends meet..."

Wow... sounds worse than living on Social Security!

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Posted by Mike Randall on 12/14/2017 at 4:35 PM

Re: “Undercover officers take the stand to explain infiltration of local Socialists

Hey Metro VNI Lt. Mark Comte - This "mark" of yours, as many undercover cops do, tried to entrap members of this group by suggesting violence and trying to get protestors to act out.

I say these 3 cops need to be fired!

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Posted by TruB on 12/14/2017 at 12:16 PM

Re: “Ex state GOP chair convicted of voter fraud

What's most interesting about this article is what it doesn't say. While he should be punished for doing what he did, the article doesn't say how the investigation got started in the first place. The do not do DNA and handwriting analysis on every ballot that comes in. So why was it done on his? Was he specifically targeted because of who he is?

You can't tell me he was the only person who did this during the election. But the article is right, he was the only one charged with doing so. Why was nobody else investigated? Kinda makes ya think this investigation was politically motivated, which is also bad.

Posted by Mike Randall on 12/14/2017 at 11:39 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Sheriff's Office blocks reporter, Indy responds via attorney

Kudos to Pam for chasing this guy down.

Pam has the protections of law. Elder's deputies don't. Colorado law says they serve "at the pleasure of the Sheriff" and he can terminated them at any time without cause. Bill's behavior as seen in today's article is only the tip of the iceberg in how he treats his employees. You don't agree with him? You are immediately a target. That is why the vast majority of his employees are so afraid to say anything. That is the reason why Maketa went on for so long getting away with his shenanigans. Elder is worse than Maketa.

So, thank you Pam. All of your EPSO employees (ok, sorry, only the honest ones) greatly appreciate your work to expose what is going on. We dearly need to get rid of Elder and get some honest leadership for the Office. Please don't back down. Please stay on this until, like with Maketa, the rest of the media is forced to recognize what you have been saying all along and something gets done!!!

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Posted by Mike Randall on 12/14/2017 at 10:18 AM

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