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Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Mr. Pirri

Never met Mrs. Bennett. Seriously doubt if she qualifies to be included in that category described in the adjective you used above. Have seen Uncle Wilbur. He seems to be a kindly old gentlemen.

One who represents what we try to do to bring ourselves up from the level of just being cavemen and elevating our selves to the point that we place things like Uncle Wilbur in our downtown parks as a fun and entertaining place to take our children for fun and relaxation and to be around other children you know, just play and splash and go around the corner for an ice cream. And the homeless who are there and what we might do to accommodate their needs also kind of brings us up from the caveman level.

But this homeless thing bothering Mrs. Bennett - - Mrs. Bennett may just have to stay home with the grandchildren and order in some pizza if the homeless bother her until Mervs wife talks serious with Mervs wifes husband about the fact that he is just not getting the job done he was elected to do. All the chains got some good coupon deals going on.

Rather than sit up there on the dias gushing all over himself about how wonderful everything is and passing out all those delightful and glitzy award plaques, Merv could jump on this homeless situation and come up with some solutions that involve more than the city getting sued. Like leading a real effort to create a real place where the homeless can legally be - - and pitching in to see what the city can do to create a temporary tent place to act as a warming shelter.

Before more people die; not after.

Those who are truly the compassionate, conservative Christians like the social service organizations and churches have stepped up to the plate and created a large number of emergency shelter beds to assist in the hardcore homeless from freezing to death.

But they are all still overwhelmed by the shear numbers from the magnet effect of having so many homeless services downtown.

Those who continually throw that "compassionate conservative Christian" label on their election campaign material to get votes are creating roadblocks to assisting the service groups in providing enough emergency shelter beds when overflow conditions exist.

Look at the county politicians. All during the 30s and 40s and the 50s and into the early 60s the county maintained a poor farm over off 21st street. This was before political correctness when poor people were just poor. They were not referred to as homeless or accommodation challenged, hell, they were just poor!

Now, with a herd of commissioners all throwing that "compassionate conservative Christian" stuff all over their websites and bringing it up at each meeting, they actually passed an ordinance making it against the law for the homeless to park their vehicles on county property. Yes they did. Between Thanksgiving and Christmas.

WJHDT? (Would Jesus have done that?)

Compassion my ass!

For many, those cars are the only place they have to stay out of the cold! It is their 'affordable housing' the county and city officials spend hours talking about. And elected officials are taking away the one thing the poor people can count on as a place they can retreat to spend the night relatively warm and safe.

Pretty damn compassionate there, folks! Probably need to take Longinos over to the Famous and celebrate that ordinance. Out of sight of the poor folk.

The option would be to work to find a place where the homeless could actually be allowed to stay. If the city and county are going to tell people where they cannot be, does that not require an effort to create a place where they can be?

Was that done? Hell no.

The churches and social service agencies do a remarkable job in working to help feed, clothe and temporarily house the homeless.

So good in fact, Colorado Springs has become an an attraction magnet for homeless from all over the southwest! Excellently prepared meals 7 days a week, 365 days a week from Catholic Charities Soup Kitchen. Any number of needs fulfilled by ESM. Right down in the heart of downtown on either side of Uncle Wilbur and the building where Merv gushes and grins.

A remarkable job has been done by Springs Rescue Mission; yet great effort being overwhelmed by the shear numbers of homeless. Again, within walking distance of downtown. The magnet has been created now, controlling the flow is an issue.

This kind of work is what compassion is all about. What the city and county have done is not compassion. It is political expediency!

One does not accomplish great things by listing all the reason it cannot be done.

Great things are accomplished by doing those things that can be done.

Merv: If your wife is going to complain about not being able to visit Uncle Wilber, why dont you get off your ass and lead the campaign to solve this problem and leave your elected office having actually accomplished something other than a boatload of simpleminded and gratuitous comments?

Would take 30 days to set up a temporary shelter for the overflow of those needing to be out of the weather on below freezing nights.

Can you get it done?

My money is on no.

Posted by R Wehner on 12/17/2017 at 3:41 AM

Re: “UPDATE: Sheriff's Office blocks reporter, Indy responds via attorney

Comments here sound like the reporter has exhibited heroism and bravery above and beyond the call of duty, uncovered the story of the century and saved 1000 children from 5000 mass shooters and made a citizens arrest of the 5000 shooters using only a bobby pin! Pulitzer Prize time. Imagine forcing Maketa to resign at the same time his term was up and uncovering the foul deeds...and charging him with... what did you call it? Oh yeah "messy scandals". I think.
Force this sheriff out too when his term expires but first take back all the nice things you were saying about hm during the "messy scandals" era...

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 12/16/2017 at 7:10 PM

Re: “Ex state GOP chair convicted of voter fraud

His ex-wife called the state(co) and asked how she could vote while out of the state. They looked her up and discovered she had already cast her ballot, which she refuted.

Your sec of state is a republican

Posted by Thomas Sullivan on 12/16/2017 at 7:02 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

This sound like when Bennett wife bitch she couldn't bring her grandchildren down front her mountain to enjoy Wilbur because off all the homeless in the park. Time for jerk suthers to get that out of the park.

Posted by Norbert Pirri on 12/16/2017 at 5:52 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

In the words of Ronald Reagan (paraphrased); bring down that THING!

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Posted by William David Beadles on 12/16/2017 at 3:26 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Not sure that the frame isnt a not-so-subtle revelation of how we perceive nature, how we've relegated nature to no more than a pretty picture or a source of revenue.
Then again, the ambiguity of this frame somehow provokes thoughts beyond its existential presence...how our views are constrained, managed by others, encouraged to disregard the big picture that can be seen simply by stepping back, or around.
It would be interesting to watch how individuals spontaneously respond upon encountering its unexpected presence, and what those responses could tell us about us.
After all, if the purpose of art is to stimulate a reaction, then, as we see, this is a pretty successful "work of art".
That said, I havent found any indication that any aesthetic considerations were put into the frame, or it's placement. Just as in nature, however, some art is unintentional.
I am reluctant to condemn such. I think I'll visit the FAC and look at some frames.

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Posted by asawatcher on 12/16/2017 at 2:39 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Move it to Memorial Park or ATB park

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Posted by VazzedUp on 12/16/2017 at 2:25 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

There needs to be accountability for those who broke the rules and allowed this. That is the problem with government these days - do what you want, to heck with what the tax paying citizens want or their rights. This kind of behavior is not ethical, it is not sustainable, and it should never be acceptable. We need to demand accountability and responsibility NOW.

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Posted by Sandra Knauf on 12/16/2017 at 11:31 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

The Garden of the Gods park was founded with this intent: known forever as the Garden of the Gods "where it shall remain free to the public, where no intoxicating liquors shall be manufactured, sold, or dispensed, where no building or structure shall be erected except those necessary to properly care for, protect, and maintain the area as a public park." This should never have been allowed to proceed. It is detracting from the natural beauty of the park and destroys a beautiful view all in the name of the commercialism of our city. No task force or group should be allowed to deface public lands. Additionally, it has been said it will be reviewed in 2018. Why do we have to keep "undoing" projects leaders in this city think are best for the citizens? This needs to be removed immediately and recalls started for anyone in leadership who allowed this. At this rate, we should simply brand our city nepotism crony springs.

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Posted by Vikki Walton on 12/16/2017 at 10:06 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Do you feel:

This art/sculpture frame adds to the beauty of the park and should remain, or

Detracts from the beauty of the park and should be taken down?

http://projectoneunity.homestead.com/Garde…

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Posted by Staci6 on 12/16/2017 at 8:41 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

While the G, being a daily, broke this story earlier (I believe?), the INDY (as always) is doing the heavy lifting to keep this on the front burner. Kudos also to Jill Gaebler who had the tact to nicely request the removal and the guts to suggest what the citizens were liable to do if not heard.

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Posted by John Cunningham on 12/16/2017 at 8:05 AM

Re: “Undercover officers take the stand to explain infiltration of local Socialists

Conspiring to "shut down" another group's lawful assemblies, in a violation of title 18 usc Section 241 "conspiracy against right"

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Posted by Troy cates on 12/16/2017 at 6:57 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

A shameless commodification of a national natural treasure. A boneheaded mistake in all respects.

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Posted by Zen on 12/16/2017 at 2:56 AM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

This is tacky and doesn't belong inside the park. Maybe if they wanted to put it in the parking lot it would be less of an eyesore. The beauty of Garden of the Gods is in the natural glory of the scenery. This looks like something you would expect to find on the old boardwalk in Atlantic City NOT in one of our cities most popular tourist attractions.

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Posted by rms on 12/15/2017 at 8:10 PM

Re: “Venetucci Farm's future up in the air

I wonder what Hannigan has to say about the current decisions of the foundation he started at his kitchen table.

If I were to remain silent Id be guilty of complicity. - Albert Einstein

Posted by RickyBobby on 12/15/2017 at 7:22 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Venetucci farmers laid off as contaminated water spoils finances

Id be interested in what Hannigan has to say about all this. https://www.csbj.com/2012/09/21/aspen-valley-ranch-provides-cultural-renaissance/

It shouldnt be a surprise that the same person making decisions on the PPCF board came up with the idea for that hideous blue picture frame at Garden of the Gods thats getting such great reviews.

Posted by RickyBobby on 12/15/2017 at 7:08 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

Related to former councilwoman Martin's comment:

"Jan Martin says the way the frame was handled demonstrates why it's important to get public input on such matters."

When Ms. Martin was on council, with Scott Hente, Randy Purvis, Tim Leigh and others - going way back to even when Margie Vasquez was on city council, 'public input' was something more than just a buzzword phrase. There were events, I really believe, that would have had different outcomes had 'public input' not been considered important and considered by those councils of their time.

Today, is 'public input' really worth even as much as a bucket of warm spit? To quote John Nance Garner?

The public input was to allow recreational marijuana. How is that working?

The public, when they finally heard about C4C that is now possibly C2C, gave their input and if I recall, 'public input' did not favor C4C at all!

The Stawberry Patch drama that is still ongoing. Public input was definitly against the swap.

How is that working out?

We stopped using the word 'fountain pen' years ago because it was somewhat irrelevent in that hardly anyone actually uses a fountain pen.

Perhaps the word 'public input' is one that should no longer be used? Hell, it's a word that gets used 120 times a day or so but it is like a pen with no ink coming out! There but useless.

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Posted by R Wehner on 12/15/2017 at 6:41 PM

Re: “Framing the Garden of the Gods

This so much reminds me of the early 50's - - when Colorado Springs had nothing going for it but it's beautiful scenery for revenue - - and people depended on tourism only from May to October hoping to be able to squirrel away enuff nuts and bucks to make it though the winter.

Fort Carson was here. Ent Air Force Base was here. And Peterson. But they were small and provided 'keep the heat on' revenue only for the locals. Norad was not. That did not come till around 54 or so as a solid, squat block windowless building located at what is now the SW corner of the parking garage at Memorial Hospital facing Boulder street.

Then, with the Interstate coming, there was opened a quarry to dynamite rocks and make gravel. Leaving that immense ugly white scar on the side of the mountains - the very mountains that people drove and flew hundreds of miles to see - and to enjoy - and to spend the money the tourist town people had to live on as their only source of revenue. Potentially threatening what was their only source of making a living at the time! Really!

I remember sitting with my Dad at the BJ Tastee Freeze just 'lickin cones' in 1957 when he explained that ugly scar on the side of the beautiful mountain:

"Knucklehead, these people probably should not be allowed to govern themselves!"

(Same Tastee Freeze that is still there at Union and Palmer Park across from what was then East Junior High School)

Janet: you 'lick cones' at the Tastee Freeze? Maybe Dad saw you.
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Posted by R Wehner on 12/15/2017 at 5:58 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Sheriff's Office blocks reporter, Indy responds via attorney

Thank you Pam!! Colorado Springs is very lucky to have you here.

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Posted by Donna Strom on 12/15/2017 at 3:54 PM

Re: “Strawberry Fields appraisal needs fresh look, citizens say

We who live on the backside of the hotel were supposed to get beautiful Brownstones as a nice transition to their convention center back in 2004. But take a look at what is happening now. A seven acre dirt parking lot has existed since then and the nearby residents must deal with their trash and dirt, hear their trucks, shuttles and their chaos. Plans change and our city government does not care what happens to residents in the area. Acrimony exists and will continue to haunt that hotel. A residential neighborhood surrounds them that must not be ignored.

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Posted by NoMoBart on 12/15/2017 at 1:23 PM

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