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Re: “Tarana Burke on race, violence and #MeToo

"By the way, the movement isnt a witch hunt, she says, with a list of men we are trying to take down.

Curious statement. Why not? If the whole movement is supposed to be about stopping this violence against women, why are we not making our main focus the people who are doing it? Like gun violence, we seem to be making the focus the guns, and not the criminals who are committing the crimes. Why?

Posted by Katy Lynn Davis on 05/22/2019 at 9:53 AM

Re: “We shouldn’t need hero kids at our schools

"The law is somehow controversial. " - Mike Littwin

It is extremely controversial and for several very good reasons. But Mike, who is a staunch gun control supporter who fawns over every law Michael Bloomberg proposes won't actually LISTEN to the problems with the law as written and vehemently opposed every reasonable attempt to fix the glaring problems in the bill. He is not even remotely interested in sitting down and having an honest discussion.

"The red flag law wouldnt have affected the STEM shooting. The police say the shooters weren't on their radar."

The shooters did not own any of the firearms, so it is unlikely the law could have been applied even if the shooters had been on their radar. But thanks for admitting that this would have been yet another case where the myriad of gun controls that have been passed, failed or would have failed.

" In Colorado, you have to be 21 to own a handgun. "

False! The ages for owning/possessing in Colorado are 18 for handguns and no age requirement for long guns. The ages for purchasing FROM A DEALER are 21 for handguns and 18 for long guns. Legally, the age requirements for a PRIVATE transfer are the same as those for owning/possession; however, the Universal Background Check law requires that many such transfers go through a dealer, therefore the dealer age limits are in play even though NO ONE in the Colorado legislature ever voted on raising the age limit -- the exception being transfers to family members.

"Well learn someday how they got the guns."

Like the Sandy Hook shooter, they stole them from a parent.

" Always, guns."

Always, violence. Quit focusing on the object used. We have been focusing on the object for 85 years now and yet we keep having problems. One day, hopefully soon, Mike and company will wake up and realize that focusing on the object rarely works.

"Theres no waiting period in Colorado. "

Waiting periods are huge fallacy which do very little good and have been shown to actually do harm. It is exceptionally rare that a firearm is used in a crime within the first 30 days of possession.

"The fact that police stormed the building within minutes is a reflection of the post-Columbine training "

It is a reflection of post-Columbine THINKING and MINDSET. The previous thinking and mindset were to wait for reinforcements and try to negotiate. We also shifted the mindset from "hide", to "run, hide, fight". While "run, hide, fight" might save some lives, the better answer is "fight, run, hide". The best way to get the shooter to stop shooting is to counter them with force. In shooting after shooting, this is exactly what happened. But, Mike and company would rather be sheep.

"These are people who apparently havent looked at any data, like the 2006 study from the Rand Center on Quality Policing, which found that cops involved in a gunfight hit their target wait for it 18 percent of the time. "

Ignoring the studies, including by Rand, that armed citizens who respond have a higher hit percentage and lower miss percentage than do cops. But, that doesn't fit Mike's narrative.

But then again, I would expect little else from Bloomberg's mouthpiece.

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Posted by Dave Hernandez on 05/20/2019 at 4:58 PM

Re: “Trump: Making America Xenophobic again

Bob:

" The Independent is the playbook and diary of the hopelessly arrogant and purposely misinformed."

Yet you read it. Regularly. And you engage with it. Does that make you "hopelessly arrogant and purposely misinformed"?

Or is it just old fashioned masochism for you?

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Posted by Bill W. on 05/20/2019 at 6:09 AM

Re: “Trump: Making America Xenophobic again

jealousy of Obama? The voice of reason you call this column and include a statement like that?! The Independent is the playbook and diary of the hopelessly arrogant and purposely misinformed. I doubt this blind pig (The CSIndy) will ever find an acorn.

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 05/19/2019 at 9:11 PM

Re: “A mom demonstrates the power of forgiveness

oops typo
not that i would make the news but that it would make the news

Posted by Owen Reese on 05/19/2019 at 8:08 AM

Re: “A mom demonstrates the power of forgiveness

I prophecy forgiveness in colorado springs would be at the heart of the matter. as much as possible i hope my friend will come to believe in Jesus Christ so i told him my prophecy that something great will happen in colorado springs area (peton colorado more specifically) and that i would make the news. that is would be about forgiveness.

Posted by Owen Reese on 05/19/2019 at 8:07 AM

Re: “We shouldn’t need hero kids at our schools

Kendrick and the others at the school who engaged the armed assailants are heroes. The best thing we can do is repeat that over and over and over until people realize that it takes heroism to combat horror.

Instead, your piece mentions the tragedy, aligns it with guns, and complains that "something" must be done.
I bet most people would welcome ANY specific suggestions that would have prevented this, but will ignore any blanket "do something about guns" blather, because it usually ends up in the same refrain:

"Ban Assault Rifles!" = Wouldn't have effected this outcome.
"Longer Wait Periods!" = Wouldn't have effected this outcome.
"Extensive Background Checks!" = Wouldn't have effected this outcome.
"Reduce Magazine Capacity!" = Wouldn't have effected this outcome.

There is no heroism in any of those ideas, in fact, the opposite is true. The people making those claims are ignorant to the different motives driving the killers.

Like a key in a lock, there are different "tumblers" that must be turned to unlock a killing mentality. Desensitizing violence is one, by way of movies, television, and video games glorifying killing (i.e. graphic violence, being shot in the head is a common theme in crime shows, and kill ratios in games).
Another is aberrant moral behavior being elevated in the same aforementioned mediums. Being an "outsider" is something to be sought after, yet leads to ridicule that the killers would describe as "bullying".
Additionally, having an unstable relationship in the home and with family leads to sullen depression and despair, and subsequent shocking acts for attention.

Research the killers/school shooters and you will find the combination fits in almost every case, regardless of their "weapon of choice". The fact that they use guns to kill people is obvious - they are trying to kill people, and that is what guns are used for.

Let's instead admit that guns are used to kill people, and we live in a country where you are allowed to own guns. Since these killers violated all the gun laws in their effort to VIOLATE THE LAW (i.e., murder), what makes ANYONE think that another law is going to change anything?

Bottom line: If you want gun control, repeal the 2nd Amendment. Until then, cease your tired talk of "do something about guns" and instead do something about our ultra-violent media that is creating these killers in the first place.

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Posted by Sonoran Gringo on 05/15/2019 at 12:19 PM

Re: “Time to De-Bruce

Mr. Wyman:

Since you are incensed by the CS Indy, perhaps you should stop reading it. Nobody is forcing you to pick up a copy and read it.

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Posted by Bill W. on 05/15/2019 at 7:19 AM

Re: “Time to De-Bruce

If I were Douglas Bruce I would take you to court for libel and defamation. That statement would make me unpopular but only with the people I do not care to be popular with-they are immature, vindictive, and lying power mongers. And always needing some white guy to hate while telling others not hate. As if nobody can see right through that.
Trot out your governor and you applaud and write about his 'free' all day kindergarten for $175 million. I will not explain that to you but I do not want you teaching in any class, so you have no class.
And if any of you want to pay the state more money for whatever then send them some cash. Whatever they do with the tax revenue it certainly is not spent on highways, roads, bridges which are what taxes are collected for.
Aren't the people who started the hate campaign against Bruce several decades ago all dead by now? And nobody in their right mind considers government to be teeming with intelligence. But why worry, your governor will make thinking and voting obsolete in no time flat or at least make it pointless. You want 10 year old children to vote but I think they should be learning American history first. It is seemingly obvious the governor or you all ever heard of James Madison or The Constitution. But you are filling the need for experts on marijuana and homosexuality to go with the incorrect history lessons about The Civil War. Calling yourself a 'newspaper'
The articles and stories and ads dealing with legal marijuana were published here with such a fury it seems you all knew too much and so soon as if you had been using it when it was illegal. Is that a red flag on your resume? As long as you are not caught then you are not guilty?
You bunch of peckerwoods...

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 05/14/2019 at 8:20 AM

Re: “Honoring local baseball legend Sam Dunlap

The only white supremacy action you could conjure up in your story was a teacher calling him a "black SOB"? Keep fanning your flames but it will grow tiresome especially when you make them up. Tripping a little girl is in fact a violent act but the name calling part is questionable considering the term "Black" was not used in that time frame. Or was it 1969 when he tripped a little girl?
What do you hope to achieve writing this sort tripe and do they pay you well?

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Posted by Bob Wyman on 05/13/2019 at 10:49 PM

Re: “Approval voting, restaurant community, and a downtown convention center?

Rocket guy:

" If these out of state jokers take down TABOR this state will get taxed into oblivion just like illinois and filled with losers from out of state trying to escape paying 55% of there money to the tyrants. "

Where above did anyone say anything about repealing TABOR? Or did you just make that up?

In 1992, Democracy put TABOR in the Colorado Constitution in a referendum vote. If the voters so choose, they can take it out any time they choose. If you don't like that, you don't like the government. Deal with it. Voters made the call on TABOR, and they can change their minds.

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Posted by Bill W. on 05/12/2019 at 7:05 PM

Re: “'Tis the time to reaffirm commitment to responsible outdoor activities

It is solid advice, but I can't remember the last time a cyclist has shown a little courtesy much less proper etiquette. Any ideas how to get a cyclist to feel some empathy to the walkers and horses?

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Posted by getoffmylawn on 05/12/2019 at 2:18 PM

Re: “Reader: Can we the people do something about the traffic signals?

UK Power Networks and Traffic Group tests smart traffic lights in Kent
https://technoidhub.com/technology/uk-power-networks-and-traffic-group-tests-smart-traffic-lights/15369/

Posted by sudha bhise on 05/12/2019 at 12:34 PM

Re: “Approval voting, restaurant community, and a downtown convention center?

The Left's pure evil taking away our defense against a totalitarian east coast type government is just a few votes away. If these out of state jokers take down TABOR this state will get taxed into oblivion just like illinois and filled with losers from out of state trying to escape paying 55% of there money to the tyrants. Tabor is a thorn in the side of all the thief's in denver and boulder that want to rip the money from hard working farmers and workers to finance a large police state. Anybody that votes for this needs to move back to the state they ran from.

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Posted by rocket625 on 05/12/2019 at 12:17 PM

Re: “Gov. Polis’ failure threatens Colorado with measles

this is more of the same clueless anti-science group that think scientists are out to get them... these nutjobs should not be allowed to live in a civilized society. their stupidity, greed and easily manipulated "opinions" should not jeopardize the health of the intelligent and caring believers of science and medicine. some states are getting it right... if you want your kid to go to school with others, vaccinate or you don't get to... period. your stupidity should only effect you and yours!!!

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Posted by happyfew on 05/09/2019 at 12:50 PM

Re: “Charters are public schools

i dont have issue with charter schools, 20 years ago said so - i have issue with those cheating developers like Shuck who ripped millions from taxpayers

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Posted by apathetic on 05/09/2019 at 12:38 PM

Re: “Impeaching Trump is the right thing to do

RNelson:

"Impeach then... Bill W--Clinton lied under oath. You are an idiot. Too old to be so stupid."

Insults and name calling are the last resorts of those who cannot argue the facts. I'll take your advice though, since you're obviously much smarter than I.

Impeach him.

Now.

Posted by Bill W. on 05/09/2019 at 11:08 AM

Re: “Gov. Polis’ failure threatens Colorado with measles

Oh give me a break. The problem is nutjob parents that won't vaccinate. Quit trying to blame the government for people's lousy decisions...they are to blame for quite enough already.

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Posted by T. Bakk on 05/09/2019 at 10:46 AM

Re: “Impeaching Trump is the right thing to do

Impeach then... Bill W--Clinton lied under oath. You are an idiot. Too old to be so stupid.

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Posted by RonNelson15 on 05/09/2019 at 10:31 AM

Re: “Time to De-Bruce

Haven't we gotten a couple things to vote on that ask us "can we keep the excess revenue and spend it on parks?"

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Posted by Matt 2 on 05/08/2019 at 1:26 PM

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