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Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

I didn't like serving under President Reagan and Mr. Trump is the personification of why I despise the G.O.P. in general. They're happy to send young men and women into harms way but we're forgotten once our hitch is up .

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Posted by Thomas Van Cleave on 11/08/2017 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

"Exactly thank you. I think its around 600 dollars to file for citzenship. " -- Mikeb45

If you are a legal resident. If not, you cannot apply.

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Posted by Odin on 11/08/2017 at 1:08 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

First Patience Kabwasa said:

""Rosalina," who left Honduras when she was 14, and has lived here as a "good law-abiding citizen/immigrant for over 20 years.""

Well, to begin with, if she came here without following the legal processes, then she is here illegally and therefore by the very definition of "law abiding", she is not.

And then, if she is a citizen, then she has nothing to fear from ICE. ICE does not deport citizens.

So Patience really needs to learn what the heck she is talking about.


Then Doug Roman wrote:

"Then Why has Rosalina occupied this country for over 20 years and not applied to become an American citizen?"

Because if Rosalina is here illegally, she cannot apply for citizenship. There is no path to citizenship in DACA.

"People cannot just cross borders illegally and work, pay taxes, etc., and also then choose not to go through the proper naturalization process that millions of others have in becoming citizens."

If they come here illegally, they cannot go through the naturalization process. Only legal residents can do so.

" Either assimilate and become Americans, or get out."

It is perfectly acceptable for legal residents to stay here without becoming citizens.

So Doug, like Patience, really needs to learn what the heck he is talking about.

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Posted by Odin on 11/08/2017 at 12:49 PM

Re: “One chronicle of street (and other sexual) harassment in Colorado Springs

Reading your column send shivers up my spine and made my stomach turn. ... Very visceral reactions to what many woman have endured and have been disgusted, frightened, maddened by. Not many men understand as you seem to be trying to ... it has been brought home to your door. Good for you and good column.

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Posted by Michelle Mourges Marx on 11/08/2017 at 11:20 AM

Re: “Inequity in city’s parks and open spaces must be addressed

Oh Ghost's of Palmer and Stratton be with us ... do *not* walk Shooks Run N or S of there; and do *not* walk the near or around the bridge over Shooks Run to the South of the Leon Young Pavillion.

Creek Week won't even touch this particular zone of the city - would you? Needles, five gallon buckets of feces, tents surrounded with collections of garbage (Ski boots? Really? Five or six dismembered bike frames? Single shoes? Useless baskets, torn luggage, wheel less shopping carts?).

Ok, if you would like to see a small scale version of the newest Mad Max movie; take a walk! Enjoy a literal canyon of trash, garbage, plastic, busted up furniture; and more. PS: Watch your step!

Yah, let's pack it out if you can pack it in! Three years ago it was a small forest, full of trails and bike paths; then about 30-45 transients moved in; caught it on fire; dropped about half a foot of trash on the forest floor; and ta-dah! The only thing the RR could do was to bull dozer it all to the ground.

I could care less about where and how people live; but if all they can do is ruin an area with the garbage they bring in (and somehow are unable to bring back out); it is *not* the responsibility of other people to be cleaning up after them. Disgusting environmental manners, disgusting!

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Posted by Stain K. Hensley on 11/07/2017 at 6:11 PM

Re: “Inequity in city’s parks and open spaces must be addressed

Wonderful article Patience, and so true.

For those that would like to know where the Leon Young Picnic Pavilion is, its right along the southern most stretch of the Shooks Run Trail in the Hillside Neighborhood.

Here is a map link:

Dropped Pin
near 907 S Corona St, Colorado Springs, CO 80903

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 11/07/2017 at 5:14 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

Well, first of all, if they apply they will be deported, if they live under the radar they likely will not. Second, they pay in to social security which they can never collect, helping to support citizens that do. Third, not everybody wants to be a US citizen, some are just trying to feed families in their native countries. Finally, why do so many care whether someone is a US citizen, they are a citizen of this planet, and like everyone else they had no choice of where they were born. Maybe everyone should be a better world citizen.

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Posted by rangesaf on 11/07/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Within minutes of the shooting in Texas, Sen Bennett starting calling for more gun control without even waiting for any facts to come in. One of his faves -- universal background checks, which take the existing background check system and applies it to private sales.

Except the gunman in Texas passed several background checks because he bought from a dealer. Same for the Vegas gunman. And the Navy Yard gunman, and the Tucson/Giffords gunman, and the Aurora gunman, and so on and so on. And this is why gun controls have very little credibility. They pass laws that are just plain $tup!d.

Take for instance the current proposals to ban "bump stocks". Instead of having the BATFE revisit their Obama era decision that such devices were legal, all the knee jerk reactionaries are trying to pass bills that ban "any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic rifle". The problem is that such language could end up unintentionally banning all kinds of things including aftermarket springs, precision trigger kits, etc. that are normal gunsmithing items used to improve the trigger pull of firearms.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/07/2017 at 4:25 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

"Actually he had been dishonourably discharged from the military" -- Frank Speaking

Actually it appears it was a BCD, not a Dishonorable.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/07/2017 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

"Dave,In the 18 years before Port Arthur (1996), Australia had 13 mass shootings, defined as shootings in which five or more people were killed. In the 21 years since, there have been none."

Not quite true, but even so, like I said, Australia didn't really have much of a problem before they passed their insane laws.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/07/2017 at 4:03 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

But seriously Rocky you have to know your enemy. Which group wants to remove God from society? Which group hates old fashioned values and Americana? Why does hollywood and MTV push race divisions, Godlessness, debauchery and selfishness? Why have we fallen so far from God? Why are humans so easily manipulated and corrupted? The left are our enemies and they will not back down so easily.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 12:51 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

No rocky its all the republicans fault for being cowards and not taking everyones guns away it worked in austrailia.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 12:46 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Well here we are again another nut got his hands on a gun and killed innocent people. Now were right back to the same old B.S. Some say more guns in the hands of those that may protect others say no guns. The lawmakers sure have no ideas. The ones that scream protection are offering no ideas and those that scream no guns have no ideas. More ant the answer and not having any is not the answer. The problem people is society I grew up in a family and a time that taught right and wrong not laws but morals. Dont lie, cheat, steal and hurt others wasent taught in Church or at School but by a single mother in the 60s with 4 mouths to feed. Now days every where ya go and everything ya do someone is out to rip ya off or hurt ya. Marriage is a joke to be taken lightly families dont back each other kids are taught with a TV and video games and theres so much selfishness that its come to stupidity is the norm. Yes it sounds awful like liberal hippy crap but some where along the way we got to start caring and thinking about each other. If ya know someone that is not quite right help them if your kid or a neighbor is obsessed with video games go throw a ball with them. Teach dont preach most know how ya just got to put down the dollar bill and reach for the real prize. When your dying and alone that fat wallet wont comfort you. If this society put as much effort into our family and friends as we do making money think of how great we could get along. Mike B. politics ant got a thing to do with it. Its the full break down of giving a shit. The only thing all those wack jobs have in common is they didnt. And thats all our fault.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 11/07/2017 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

Exactly thank you. I think its around 600 dollars to file for citzenship. Our immigration laws have been disrespected and ignored for far too long.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 7:21 AM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Nidal Hasan Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter black liberal/Obama voter
Seung-Hui Cho Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
James Holmes the Dark Knight/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occupy guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.

Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas Leftist Democrat

James J. Lee who was the green activist/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel progressive liberal Democrat.
Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter Leftist, Marxist.
dem mass murder Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber Leftist Democrat.
Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat killed Kennedy

Rep. Steve Scalise shot by a Bernie supporter.
Rand Paul attacked by his socialist neighbor.

Excuse me for jumping to conclusions about his possible political affiliations. Oh and theres about a 95% chance he was on some pyschotropic dissassociative medication but lets give our friends big pharma the benefit of the doubt shall we?

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 7:16 AM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

"On a LinkedIn page, notes, Kelley signified that he cared about civil rights, animal welfare, arts, social action, human rights and children."
Hmmm and he was an avowed atheist. Sounds like yet another left wing mass shooter to me. Shall i list some more left wing mass shooters?

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 7:01 AM

Re: “TABOR author on question 1A

It is evident that personal vendettas seem to prevail over reason. Allowing the County to keep $15 million more per year OVER the already growth-adjusted TABOR limit is a BLANK check yes-voters are writing from their own wallets and those of their current and future fellow citizens for their politicians to use how they see fit. It is absurd. Talk about GULLIBLE!

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Posted by Joel C. Miller on 11/07/2017 at 5:27 AM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Actually he had been dishonourably discharged from the military for beating up his wife and child. He was having domestic issues and he had been sending threatening texts to his mother in law who attends that church.
No record on line or any other way of connection with any group whatsover apart from visiting many loony right fake news sites such as you appear to visit as that is where that false meme you are repeating comes from

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Posted by Frank Speaking on 11/06/2017 at 4:02 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

"A note to all NRA members: "

You do realize, I hope, that NRA members are only a fraction of the people who own firearms and even among those with concealed carry permits, the majority are not NRA members. Also, be aware that the NRA is hardly the only effective Second Amendment lobbying organization and the NRA is not the organization which have been winning court case after court case overturning bad firearm laws.

"I understand your fears about being attacked by criminals or lunatics. "

Probably not, based on your posting history.

"It must be comforting and even a little macho to check that pistol you carry concealed."

Rarely do we "check" them while carrying as it is a tell. And you are clearly delusional if you think it has anything to do with being macho -- especially considering the millions of women who carry.

"You can bet that a number of people sitting in that movie in Aurora were carrying concealed. "

You probably lose that bet. The theater was a posted gun free zone -- in fact it appears that the gunman may have chosen that theater for that specific fact.

"It wouldn't have done any good anyway, since the shooter was wearing protective gear"

His "protective gear" was the outer carrier and stuff that looked like body armor, it was not actually body armor.
Even a person in protective gear will instinctively duck when being shot at. And many people wearing body armor have been killed or seriously wounded when they were shot in areas that were not protected such as sides, arms, groin/pelvis, neck, face, etc.

" if the police came into a scene of a gun battle, they would not know who were the bad guys."

The bad guys are the ones not following police orders and are the ones shooting at unarmed people.

"No one in the Las Vegas massacre fired back;"

Probably because none of them were armed due to the highly restrictive laws in Vegas..

"And imagine walking down a crowded sidewalk, talking to your friend, when suddenly a car or truck mows you and others down, crushing them and you. Your pistol will do you no good."

Apparently you are unaware that bullets go through glass. Police shoot at people using vehicles as weapons quite frequently and often kill or severely wound the driver.

"My practical advice is to follow the success in Australia. "

Well, considering how badly you have mangled things so far, your advice isn't really worth a tinker's damn. But since you bring up Australia, their experience is hardly a shining case for gun control.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/06/2017 at 3:50 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Dave,In the 18 years before Port Arthur (1996), Australia had 13 mass shootings, defined as shootings in which five or more people were killed. In the 21 years since, there have been none.

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Posted by Steve Young on 11/06/2017 at 3:34 PM

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