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Re: “One chronicle of street (and other sexual) harassment in Colorado Springs

I think what i find frustrating here is that it feels like this savior-fetish that a lot of men are feeling right now. It's like street harassment and workplace assault and all other abuse we endure is now a genre of pulp fiction that is always explicit, titillating, and then ends on a note of sanctimony. You say you're trying to understand- and I'm going to take you at your word, but if so, can we look together at where you need to work? First, like much pulp fiction, you have a weird fixation on her physicality here, whether you meant it that way or not. Sure, it provides a theme, but I'm 5'8" and I've been raped twice by age 39 and experience the exact same crap on the street despite being well past my prime as the standards go - as do my friends who both fit and don't fit the fantasies of the male sexual gaze of little and innocent (do you think you might be fixating on this as a factor as a result of your own gaze?). Do you think if I was a few inches taller I could've pushed him off me more easily? Sure, it can be true if you happen to have a visible identity that coincides with a porn category, you're extra screwed (pun intended) if you try to exist in public, but there's no shortage of dudes that literally harass every woman who walks by. Even old ugly hags like me. Second, stop it with the self-congratulatory humility here. You're probably feeling pretty great that you brought this to our attention... newsflash: women already know this. And guess what? So do men. You just don't know if we know that you know, so of course, you gotta publish your woke-ness so we know you're one of the special men, one of the good guys. Well, we know that too. Look, nobody thinks all men are rapists, or that you're all culpable on a personal level for the patriarchy and misogyny that creates rape culture. But we also know there is a lot of gray area that our good guy allies walk around in. And we can't tell you where you need to draw the line - because we aren't in those spaces, at least not the full us. If you really wanted to do something to stop and change all this, (here's my Third point) do this: Instead of a salacious description of all the dirty things we encounter on the street as reported by a definitely-not-turned-on-boyfriend-asserting-his-territorial-claim, give us an honest, vulnerable assessment of the ways YOU have failed us. Tell us that you're conflicted with (it's probably in your porn history) and the ways you worry you've failed us. Tell us what you think is unfair. Ask us what we want you know. Ask us to help you be better and share your failures and your remorse. Don't speak for us. Don't explain the shit we deal with to us or for us. Dont save us. Save yourself my friend. We been out here for years and we're working on saving our damn selves. You do that.

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Posted by Olympe de Gouges on 11/08/2017 at 11:31 PM

Re: “One chronicle of street (and other sexual) harassment in Colorado Springs

Powerful. Sobering. Shocking. And all together too real, for too many, for far too long.

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 11/08/2017 at 8:39 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

"Citizen of this planet" "World citizen"


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Posted by Stain K. Hensley on 11/08/2017 at 7:50 PM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

Hey let me add LCpl USMC (BadASS), because I'm a Marine!

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Posted by Rob Hicks on 11/08/2017 at 7:27 PM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

That is an opinion, but it is not shared by all veterans or those still active. I never understood why Light Colonels are always the ones to include their rank in any correspondence even in retirement.

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Posted by Rob Hicks on 11/08/2017 at 7:10 PM

Re: “Reader: Trump's not worthy of military respect

I didn't like serving under President Reagan and Mr. Trump is the personification of why I despise the G.O.P. in general. They're happy to send young men and women into harms way but we're forgotten once our hitch is up .

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Posted by Thomas Van Cleave on 11/08/2017 at 4:27 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

"Exactly thank you. I think its around 600 dollars to file for citzenship. " -- Mikeb45

If you are a legal resident. If not, you cannot apply.

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Posted by Odin on 11/08/2017 at 1:08 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

First Patience Kabwasa said:

""Rosalina," who left Honduras when she was 14, and has lived here as a "good law-abiding citizen/immigrant for over 20 years.""

Well, to begin with, if she came here without following the legal processes, then she is here illegally and therefore by the very definition of "law abiding", she is not.

And then, if she is a citizen, then she has nothing to fear from ICE. ICE does not deport citizens.

So Patience really needs to learn what the heck she is talking about.


Then Doug Roman wrote:

"Then Why has Rosalina occupied this country for over 20 years and not applied to become an American citizen?"

Because if Rosalina is here illegally, she cannot apply for citizenship. There is no path to citizenship in DACA.

"People cannot just cross borders illegally and work, pay taxes, etc., and also then choose not to go through the proper naturalization process that millions of others have in becoming citizens."

If they come here illegally, they cannot go through the naturalization process. Only legal residents can do so.

" Either assimilate and become Americans, or get out."

It is perfectly acceptable for legal residents to stay here without becoming citizens.

So Doug, like Patience, really needs to learn what the heck he is talking about.

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Posted by Odin on 11/08/2017 at 12:49 PM

Re: “One chronicle of street (and other sexual) harassment in Colorado Springs

Reading your column send shivers up my spine and made my stomach turn. ... Very visceral reactions to what many woman have endured and have been disgusted, frightened, maddened by. Not many men understand as you seem to be trying to ... it has been brought home to your door. Good for you and good column.

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Posted by Michelle Mourges Marx on 11/08/2017 at 11:20 AM

Re: “Inequity in city’s parks and open spaces must be addressed

Oh Ghost's of Palmer and Stratton be with us ... do *not* walk Shooks Run N or S of there; and do *not* walk the near or around the bridge over Shooks Run to the South of the Leon Young Pavillion.

Creek Week won't even touch this particular zone of the city - would you? Needles, five gallon buckets of feces, tents surrounded with collections of garbage (Ski boots? Really? Five or six dismembered bike frames? Single shoes? Useless baskets, torn luggage, wheel less shopping carts?).

Ok, if you would like to see a small scale version of the newest Mad Max movie; take a walk! Enjoy a literal canyon of trash, garbage, plastic, busted up furniture; and more. PS: Watch your step!

Yah, let's pack it out if you can pack it in! Three years ago it was a small forest, full of trails and bike paths; then about 30-45 transients moved in; caught it on fire; dropped about half a foot of trash on the forest floor; and ta-dah! The only thing the RR could do was to bull dozer it all to the ground.

I could care less about where and how people live; but if all they can do is ruin an area with the garbage they bring in (and somehow are unable to bring back out); it is *not* the responsibility of other people to be cleaning up after them. Disgusting environmental manners, disgusting!

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Posted by Stain K. Hensley on 11/07/2017 at 6:11 PM

Re: “Inequity in city’s parks and open spaces must be addressed

Wonderful article Patience, and so true.

For those that would like to know where the Leon Young Picnic Pavilion is, its right along the southern most stretch of the Shooks Run Trail in the Hillside Neighborhood.

Here is a map link:

Dropped Pin
near 907 S Corona St, Colorado Springs, CO 80903

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 11/07/2017 at 5:14 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

Well, first of all, if they apply they will be deported, if they live under the radar they likely will not. Second, they pay in to social security which they can never collect, helping to support citizens that do. Third, not everybody wants to be a US citizen, some are just trying to feed families in their native countries. Finally, why do so many care whether someone is a US citizen, they are a citizen of this planet, and like everyone else they had no choice of where they were born. Maybe everyone should be a better world citizen.

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Posted by rangesaf on 11/07/2017 at 4:37 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Within minutes of the shooting in Texas, Sen Bennett starting calling for more gun control without even waiting for any facts to come in. One of his faves -- universal background checks, which take the existing background check system and applies it to private sales.

Except the gunman in Texas passed several background checks because he bought from a dealer. Same for the Vegas gunman. And the Navy Yard gunman, and the Tucson/Giffords gunman, and the Aurora gunman, and so on and so on. And this is why gun controls have very little credibility. They pass laws that are just plain $tup!d.

Take for instance the current proposals to ban "bump stocks". Instead of having the BATFE revisit their Obama era decision that such devices were legal, all the knee jerk reactionaries are trying to pass bills that ban "any part or combination of parts that is designed and functions to increase the rate of fire of a semi-automatic rifle". The problem is that such language could end up unintentionally banning all kinds of things including aftermarket springs, precision trigger kits, etc. that are normal gunsmithing items used to improve the trigger pull of firearms.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/07/2017 at 4:25 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

"Actually he had been dishonourably discharged from the military" -- Frank Speaking

Actually it appears it was a BCD, not a Dishonorable.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/07/2017 at 4:05 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

"Dave,In the 18 years before Port Arthur (1996), Australia had 13 mass shootings, defined as shootings in which five or more people were killed. In the 21 years since, there have been none."

Not quite true, but even so, like I said, Australia didn't really have much of a problem before they passed their insane laws.

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Posted by Dave H on 11/07/2017 at 4:03 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

But seriously Rocky you have to know your enemy. Which group wants to remove God from society? Which group hates old fashioned values and Americana? Why does hollywood and MTV push race divisions, Godlessness, debauchery and selfishness? Why have we fallen so far from God? Why are humans so easily manipulated and corrupted? The left are our enemies and they will not back down so easily.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 12:51 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

No rocky its all the republicans fault for being cowards and not taking everyones guns away it worked in austrailia.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 12:46 PM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Well here we are again another nut got his hands on a gun and killed innocent people. Now were right back to the same old B.S. Some say more guns in the hands of those that may protect others say no guns. The lawmakers sure have no ideas. The ones that scream protection are offering no ideas and those that scream no guns have no ideas. More ant the answer and not having any is not the answer. The problem people is society I grew up in a family and a time that taught right and wrong not laws but morals. Dont lie, cheat, steal and hurt others wasent taught in Church or at School but by a single mother in the 60s with 4 mouths to feed. Now days every where ya go and everything ya do someone is out to rip ya off or hurt ya. Marriage is a joke to be taken lightly families dont back each other kids are taught with a TV and video games and theres so much selfishness that its come to stupidity is the norm. Yes it sounds awful like liberal hippy crap but some where along the way we got to start caring and thinking about each other. If ya know someone that is not quite right help them if your kid or a neighbor is obsessed with video games go throw a ball with them. Teach dont preach most know how ya just got to put down the dollar bill and reach for the real prize. When your dying and alone that fat wallet wont comfort you. If this society put as much effort into our family and friends as we do making money think of how great we could get along. Mike B. politics ant got a thing to do with it. Its the full break down of giving a shit. The only thing all those wack jobs have in common is they didnt. And thats all our fault.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 11/07/2017 at 12:35 PM

Re: “Reader: Either assimilate, or get out

Exactly thank you. I think its around 600 dollars to file for citzenship. Our immigration laws have been disrespected and ignored for far too long.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 7:21 AM

Re: “Reader: Prayers and concealed guns won't change a thing

Nidal Hasan Ft Hood Shooter: Registered Democrat and Muslim.
Aaron Alexis, Navy Yard shooter black liberal/Obama voter
Seung-Hui Cho Virginia Tech shooter: Wrote hate mail to President Bush and to his staff, registered Democrat.
James Holmes the Dark Knight/Colorado shooter: Registered Democrat, staff worker on the Obama campaign, #Occupy guy,progressive liberal, hated Christians.

Amy Bishop, the rabid leftist, killed her colleagues in Alabama, Obama supporter.
Andrew J. Stack, flew plane into IRS building in Texas Leftist Democrat

James J. Lee who was the green activist/ leftist took hostages at Discovery Channel progressive liberal Democrat.
Jared Loughner, the Tucson shooter Leftist, Marxist.
dem mass murder Ohio bomb plot derps were occupy Wall St leftists.
Harris and Klebold, the Columbine Shooters families registered Democrats and progressive Leftists.
Bill Ayers, Weather Underground bomber Leftist Democrat.
Lee Harvey Oswald, Socialist, Communist and Democrat killed Kennedy

Rep. Steve Scalise shot by a Bernie supporter.
Rand Paul attacked by his socialist neighbor.

Excuse me for jumping to conclusions about his possible political affiliations. Oh and theres about a 95% chance he was on some pyschotropic dissassociative medication but lets give our friends big pharma the benefit of the doubt shall we?

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 11/07/2017 at 7:16 AM

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