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Re: “How the alt-right normalizes hate

If anyone normalizes hate and division it is the left with your constant smear and bogeyman tactics. Talk about fear mongering. You are an idiot if you think Trump is a white supremecist get off it.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 10/24/2017 at 10:13 AM

Re: “Reader: I want to live where people respect each other and the environment

The author is right, anyone can walk down Shooks Run and see how bad it is. It's not just McDonald's wrappers and big gulp cups, it's piles of clothing, feces, AND food wrappers. The homeless population here has grown exponentially over the past few years. 10 years ago you'd never see anyone camping in the parks. Now we have "resident" 20 somethings living in the local parks. It's hard to help someone who is openly smoking weed or going out of his way to intimidate women/elderly/disabled people, or who is stealing from my yard. I can't let my 11 year old daughter walk to the playground because of all of the creepy people who call Shooks Run park home. I've been threatened and accosted multiple times over the past few years.

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Posted by Random Citizen on 10/24/2017 at 8:52 AM

Re: “Reader: I want to live where people respect each other and the environment

Neh, not buying any of this. People drifting all over the place; least they can and should do is be picking up as they go along.

Dorchester park has a three yard commercial dumpster. And, trash all over the place. Yes, the wind does blow stuff out of the dumpster; put it back in and close the lid. Happens to homeowners when the raccoons get into our bins; stop; clean it up; move on. Stop with the OMG the wind! OMG the city doesn't pick up the trash bags we leave on the bike path and the police told us we could do that and then nobody picked it up and but the police told us we could leave it there and blah blah blah. We no can pik up trash! Just stop. The excuse train needs to stay back in the shed. Now!

All the stuff came from somewhere. Easy solution :0 Pack it in, pack it out. This has worked for outdoors people quite some time. The fast food cup came from somewhere; take the empty back. The plasticware came from somewhere; take it back. All this crap that is all around the campsites; it all came from somewhere. Take it back. All the unwanted and abandoned all over the place clothes came from somewhere; take them back. There are no complexities involved in this concept.

If somebody is so damn tough and ingenious that they can live outdoors in Colorado year round; yet they can not handle this concept of take trash : to trash container ... eh; ummm; seriously? And the blame goes to where? To who? To what? To people that are sick of it and write an editorial? Really? "You wrote a letter and this is your fault". Uh, I too want a medium rare steak, loaded baked potato, salad, and a coke. Awww crap; you mean I have to earn this stuff by living properly! That's not fair!

"Hi. I live outdoors. In Colorado. Nope, can't handle this put the trash in the trashcan stuff. Too difficult for me. Just can't figure that one out" #Fail.

"The police will arrest me if I put an empty soda cup and a hamburger wrapper into a residential neighborhood trash bin". What is this crap? How does somebody even write bs like that. "I can't do anything with my trash because I'll be arrested if I put it in somebodies trash can" Pfffff. Next excuse; please.

Antlers park has three trash cans, usually overflowing; with the plates cups and napkins that people are charitably fed on there. But somehow; there are also the same plates cups and napkins all over Antlers park. Why? Why can this stuff not be taken away by the people providing such a generosity to the people that partake of it? Do none of the people of Antlers know how to simply do a jump up and down on the overflowing trash cans?

If the community of homeless can't figure this stuff out; and people don't like it; good Lord; don't blame the rest of the populace for having a problem with the environment of trash that seems to typify 'homeless'. Most of the discrimination against the homeless is an item that starts with the homeless, and it needs to be ending with the homeless.

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Posted by Stain K. Hensley on 10/23/2017 at 8:23 PM

Re: “Reader: I want to live where people respect each other and the environment

Rick Snyder- I've walked around this town for 20 year unarmed and still go downtown at night for music. I spend a great deal of time downtown and find people over exaggerate their issues with pan handlers and people laying on side walks. I think you over exaggerated your interaction with the police.
LMAO - that you wrote in to claim you are left leaning. I live near a park and the college and HS kids all with nice cars and homes leave their trash every night. The people park and eat their lunch leave their fast food containers.

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Posted by TruB on 10/23/2017 at 6:00 PM

Re: “Reader: I want to live where people respect each other and the environment

Unfortunately, the writer of this letter reveals exactly the lack or respect towards the poor and homeless that puts the lie to the title "I want to live where people respect each other and the environment ". Calling less fortunate people bums and treating them like they are somehow less human is not respectful and does nothing to move forward what should be a very important conversation in our community.

Why is there trash everywhere? maybe because the city has removed many of the trash cans from the parks and areas downtown where the homeless gather. Why do homeless people go to the bathroom outdoors? Perhaps its because there are almost no public restrooms available anywhere. Businesses are restricting use of the restrooms to customers only or even closing them to the public altogether. The city has been keeping bathrooms in the parks locked and without other alternatives, where exactly are the homeless to go. Why are there so many homeless people in the first place? Perhaps we should look at the loss of high paying jobs over the last ten years and the dramatic increase in the cost of housing over the same period.

Additionally, what are the current viable alternatives for homeless people to panhandling? As a city, we need to explore creating low barrier work opportunities for homeless people as an alternative to panhandling. Perhaps we could find a way to pay homeless people to clean up our parks and open spaces. carrying a gun is no more the answer than giving money to a panhandler is the answer. We need to find ways to provide for the basic human needs of our most vulnerable populations and find alternatives to panhandling that serve to make our neighborhoods safer better places for everyone.

Some people in our community are working to find answers to these questions instead of complaining about them. One such program can be seen at http://www.hisurbanpresence.org/uplift-.html. By working together and learning to really respect every part of our community, we can truly turn this city into a place where everyone is valued and treated equally.

Edwin "Pastor FedEx" Aldrich
Executive Director,
His Urban Presence Ministries

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Posted by Edwin Aldrich on 10/23/2017 at 5:02 PM

Re: “Reader: I want to live where people respect each other and the environment

My kids pick up trash on our way to and from the park in our neighborhood off Circle Drive . We also volunteer to assist the homeless and shut-ins. I'm far more concerned with the apathy towards the homeless and families in poverty than in the problems homeless people cause. I've given free haircuts and food to the homeless and have only had one negative experience versus the many negative experiences I have had with rich people. I'm a 28 year old woman and have no need for a weapon. Maybe the writer should befriend a homeless person and use his writing skills to assist a homeless person in completing a resum. Having been homeless in the past, a helping hand was all it took to get me back on my feet.

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Posted by Mandy Riggle on 10/23/2017 at 4:41 PM

Re: “How the alt-right normalizes hate

Milo is not a white supremecist you jackass he is married to a BLACK MAN. I love how popular Milo has become thanks to scolds and nannies like YOU. Keep lying about our President and Milo you only make them STRONGER!

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 10/23/2017 at 2:37 PM

Re: “Reader: I want to live where people respect each other and the environment

Its been like this for many years. Its a backward state and an even more backward city.
This person is a classic bs whiner who obviously doing nothing to help others than bitch and shop online for fear of being "begged".
I believe his also lying in that "all" of his shopping is not just online.
Also he does not actually describe his encounter with the "bums" as he calls all homeless that now makes him feel the need to now arm himself.
I challenge this outlet/media site to ask this man to work with one of the grpups who provide services/outreach to the homeless, or as he likes to call them "bums" instead of just leaving it as is so there might be less of a chance of someone getting shot and more of a chance that he and this outlet dont look passively on a serious situation going on in this city.
To get at the root of a number of problems rather than just post a readers obvious disdain for the very poor perhaps this outlet could show us in this city some effort to inform the citizens of this community what it knows and what it can fimd out.
The alternative is nothing but a form of sensationalism with no form of editorial input.

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Posted by William Rodriguez on 10/23/2017 at 10:59 AM

Re: “Reader: This much is unclear on stormwater

Those are great points. The storm water fee is to create a revenue stream that some fool put in the Southern Delivery contract and now want to act like there is n emergency.

Suthers is another fool who thought he could get this fee and promised a fix to the EPA.

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Posted by TruB on 10/21/2017 at 7:53 AM

Re: “Stepping aside: Routon moves to retirement role

Thank you Ralph for a great run. I've enjoyed the Indy since moving to the city 12 years ago. I'll miss you and Rich Tosches but Pam and Adrian will do a great job going forward, as they have all along.

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Posted by OldCrank on 10/19/2017 at 11:35 AM

Re: “Leave your stinkin' drone at home

What about all the Harley Davidson motorcycles riding through the national and state parks. Way louder than any drone. The FAA officially controls the airspace not the parks or the city or anyone else.

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Posted by Scott Heinz on 10/18/2017 at 1:19 PM

Re: “Reader: Vote "yes" for the children

They can't afford to turn the heat on? But they can afford to sponsor the "EBSCO" and "Explora" databases that have been in the news all over the country for streaming p*rn and hundreds of "sex toy" advertisements into K-12 databases? Don't give them another cent until they get rid of EBSCO!!! Imagine the mismanagement of taxpayer money, leaving kids without basic needs, while peddling p*rn. See the National Center on Sexual Exploitation for more information, also see CBS4, Education Week, Fox Birmingham (EBSCO's hometown! ... EBSCO has publicly admitted the problems, but D-11 just keeps peddling the EBSCO...what kind of kickbacks do they get??) http://endsexualexploitatio...

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Posted by Dean Teagan on 10/17/2017 at 8:28 AM

Re: “Hiking Waldo Canyon then and now

Bob, although I appreciate your report (and I enjoy bushwhacking from time to time myself), isn't this report, in such a public format, going to encourage excessive damage from myriad social/rogue trail production? Shouldn't we work toward the establishment of "official" trails to minimize further destruction? Thoughts?

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Posted by John C. Spengler on 10/16/2017 at 9:31 AM

Re: “Reader: Did we forget what a disaster is?

WOW the incline? Really? Not a disaster from where Im looking. Disaster funds come in two ways. Emergency and then later Grants. I think that pretty much says it all. The first to rescue ya the second to put ya back togethe. But not for Recreation the Incline is recreation.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 10/13/2017 at 9:36 PM

Re: “Reader: Did we forget what a disaster is?

Ask the City and the USFS if the first stage of repairs conducted on the Incline are already failing, meaning that ties that were reset in soil that has not been properly compacted are already coming loose again. Ask them if the required safety standards for the Special Use Permit demand that no ties move at all. Ask them if these issues were disclosed in the grant applications from FEMA and HUD. They will lie to you. Once the underlying bed of the Incline started to loosen, the only way to repair it is to tear it out completely and start over. Has our City committed grant fraud? Close the Incline once and for all.

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Posted by Carl Strow on 10/13/2017 at 1:53 PM

Re: “Reader: Did we forget what a disaster is?

I havent done the incline since they raised the parking to ten bucks. No thanks.

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Posted by Mikeb45 on 10/13/2017 at 11:04 AM

Re: “Reader: Consider the environmental impact

I just want to bring up the impact of doing nothing. Thats whats got the city in the legal mess there in.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 10/12/2017 at 4:15 PM

Re: “Reader: A new antebellum period

Great letter.

Posted by Judith Posch on 10/11/2017 at 11:02 AM

Re: “Reader: Peaceful protest are for peaceful people

While not an advocate of guns I am of the opinion that there is a time and place for citizens to carry guns. Not all protests are peaceful. Guns were carried to a protest against White Supremacy because of the threats that were issued by the Hate Groups. You should note that these Hate Groups did not show their cowardly faces because the people who were fighting their hate chose to bring their guns. It took quite some bravery for these people to show up with their guns and not only face the Hate Groups, but the hate from those who they were there to protect. Since Trump was elected and we have had a free for all when it comes to these racist groups many citizens have realized that peaceful protests are no longer viable. You can have your own views on guns, as I do, but I take exception to the comment that they are cowards.

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Posted by Patty Chavez on 10/10/2017 at 3:48 PM

Re: “Reader: Get over it and win 2018 together

The Constitution is somewhat more ethereal than Eric's blather. The primary needs for the salvation of this nation do not include "sexual orientations" but rather humility before creation

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Posted by Joe Morin on 10/10/2017 at 1:25 AM

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