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Re: “Reader: "Make America a Democracy again"

Progressives have been doing a better job at phrases that Conservatives have...and done it much longer. Elanie was projecting...not necessary lying.

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Posted by Don McCullen on 05/25/2017 at 9:53 PM

Re: “Reader: "Make America a Democracy again"

Don sounds like a result of the 'moral majority' who has spent years claiming liberals are all evil.
Conservatives love to use phrases that are actually describing themselves. Elaine ain't lying.

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Posted by TruB on 05/25/2017 at 12:14 AM

Re: “13 authoritarian jokes on America

"Every day the Media makes up a new story..." George Bernard Shaw once observed, the punishment for being a liar is not that no one will believe you, but you cannot believe anyone else.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/24/2017 at 10:43 PM

Re: “Everybody bikes, or can

What a fabulous read, you nailed it!

I look forward to many rides like you described and truly, there is nothing like experiencing the beauty of Colorado Spring from the seat of your bike, at a very human speed.

Pedal On!

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Posted by Allen Beauchamp on 05/24/2017 at 6:26 PM

Re: “Reader: "Make America a Democracy again"

Elaine, you just projecting the hate and bully tactics onto us. You just don't want to push back on your goals to fundamentally transform America. The real Oligarchy are those who push the progressive agenda on those who oppose it...especially unaccountable judges and those who want us to affirm the sins that the progressives what to impose on people like me who oppose it. The left has been good at projecting their evil on their enemies.

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Posted by Don McCullen on 05/24/2017 at 3:50 PM

Re: “Everybody bikes, or can

Beautifully said Carrie!

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Posted by Michael Rigney on 05/24/2017 at 3:48 PM

Re: “Long live the landline

The FCC should remove the universal access fee. It has been since 1996 and meant to ensure all parts of the US have internet access. That should have been accomplished by now. I'd like a landline for emergencies. Remember back when the phone companies were going to allow a home phone # that rang in your house and you'd be able to pick up your cell and leave home with your home phone. Most of these internet phones all go out if the electric or internet goes down. A landline had a dial tone even in a blackout.

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Posted by TruB on 05/24/2017 at 2:51 PM

Re: “Reader: A civics lesson courtesy of American politics

You forgot 2.5: Bill is sneaked in to must-pass legislation as a rider.

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Posted by jy3 on 05/23/2017 at 12:01 PM

Re: “Region must be proactive on transportation, and here's how to do it

I have been saying for years that a continuous light rail from the Springs to Denver, even Ft. Collins, would be huge. Think of concerts, events, games, connecting to UnionStation, also with a connection to the airport. More jobs, less I25 congestion. It'd be great for University students to commute to Denver, too.

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Posted by rosi on 05/22/2017 at 8:24 PM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

Yes Clearly seeing it With the freedom comes responsibility. You cant yell fire in crowded room. It hurts others. Also you should not talk about your religion and expect respect if your not willing to here others and afford them the same respect. Freedom of speech is granted to all of us not just those that claim to be Christian for there own benefit.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 05/22/2017 at 2:27 PM

Re: “Region must be proactive on transportation, and here's how to do it

Gee wiz. "like solving obesity with a bigger set of pants". We need to stop the backwards thinking of the well-intentioned older generation which refuses to consider the innovations of the newer age. Wasting millions of dollars on an infrastructure which is already outdated- bad, bad idea, but the norm for COS. How about a common sense idea like a light-rail? How about actually moving towards an awesome solution to the problem? How about recognizing Denver and the region as one of the fastest growing areas of the country, and moving to address the issue like a modern city would? Gee wiz the leadership and influence of this area are simply as backwards as can be.

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Posted by KyleJS on 05/22/2017 at 1:45 PM

Re: “13 authoritarian jokes on America

#2 protesting Trump isn't a crime starting fires and breaking windows is.

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Posted by rocket625 on 05/22/2017 at 11:32 AM

Re: “13 authoritarian jokes on America

Every day the Media makes up a new story about Trump and Russia. Will you sore losers ever get over the rejection?

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Posted by rocket625 on 05/22/2017 at 11:02 AM

Re: “Region must be proactive on transportation, and here's how to do it

Hmmm - she lied to voters on the PPRTA ballot issue about it sun setting and that it would require NO paid staff. If anyone really looked at the PPRTA they have hidden how they over estimate the cost of a project so it will always come in under budget and then move the excess funds to the next project. She tricked voters into removing term limits so that our ballots now need to list that voting no means yes. She turned her back when Maketa gave her a complaint. I've got no idea why Ralph thinks she should be allowed in a position to lie to the public again.

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Posted by TruB on 05/21/2017 at 7:27 PM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

There's really no such thing as free speech. What you say and where you choose to say it can cost you plenty.

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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 05/21/2017 at 4:32 PM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

I noticed that Don McCullen lies quite a bit and claims to be a Christian! Hilarious!
"Progressivism is the threat of the day. They don't want us to push our faith on them but they have no problem pushing it on us...and their friends and allies approve." -- absolutely false.

"We have to bake LGBT wedding cakes and support and bless their LGBT weddings." -- a business does. Welcome to America. No LGBT can walk into a church and demand a specific Christian bake them a cake.

"Also we have to pay for abortions for women what act like harlots, and affirm their decition to abort cause after all they are women and them some. Never mind that half or more than half of the pre born babies that are snuffed are GIRLS!!! But the woman's loose libido is far more important...just look at Cosmo and you will see what I mean. They may not like seeing nude men but they love to talk dirty. Unlike the guys who do love to look at the T&A...or not if you go with Maxim. " -- total bullshit lie. You don't spend one penny on anyone's abortion. You sir, are not a Christian.

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Posted by jimhinco on 05/21/2017 at 9:10 AM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

"They [progressives] expect us to shut up..."

Yet, here you are raving and ranting to your heart's content. This must be a new definition of the phrase "shut up" that has not made it into the dictionary yet.

"...and they [progressives] get to act like animals."

For examples, progressives have paid good money to provide you with this free forum to air your imaginary grievances and gratuitous insults.

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/20/2017 at 9:11 AM

Re: “13 authoritarian jokes on America

"I have others if you'd like to read them."

No, thanks. Not interested in Russian propaganda and fake news,

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Posted by Mr. K-- on 05/20/2017 at 7:46 AM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

I have some question's Mr. McCullen You say in a response that the left is pushing for a" National Police Force" Dont we already have that? Its called the Justice dept they are the ones with the task to protect us from misuse of that Constitution that you bring up.Is it not the document that gives us the right to practice or not practice any religion in any way we want? I was under the thought our founding Fathers were escaping persecution when that was added to the document that started this great Country. So please explain how peoples own personal beliefs are a threat to that document? Its pretty clear to me its not. I consider myself a Christian man and when I was young the Bible I read said Jesus was crucified for fighting persecution from the Church and Leaders of that day and time.One reason I dont go to Church any more is it seems to contradict what Jesus was trying to teach us. So please explain to me and if you cant maybe your Pastor can. How can a Christian Church or Christian organization preach exclusion, damnation and hate when all Christ taught was Love and inclusion? I would really like to know where in Jesus's words did he say certain people were not welcome. I understood him as saying all who seek him were welcomed.

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Posted by Rocky Smith on 05/19/2017 at 10:20 PM

Re: “Reader: Free speech is for everyone except Christians

"Tom, keep on speaking out. I don't necessary always agree, but the way these leftists talk they have an agenda and in the long run they will discriminate against anyone who does not uphold their Progressive ideals and faith."
Our agenda is getting you to leave us alone. You don't get to push your religious doctrines on us and treat us as subhuman just because your dogma says we're all sinners (but you're saved).

"Progressivism is the threat of the day."
Spoken like a true fearmonger. Life involves change, pal - there is no choice but to progress. That which does not adapt WILL DIE eventually. You don't have to embrace change but don't expect us to be sympathetic when you whine about it.

"They don't want us to push our faith on them but they have no problem pushing it on us...and their friends and allies approve."
None of us are saying you can't worship your god or pray or follow his commandments for yourselves. We're not asking you to change what you believe for yourselves (if you don't like gay marriage, fine, don't marry someone the same sex as you - nobody's going to force you. If you don't like abortions, don't ever have one. Don't like punk hair colors? Don't dye your hair). We just don't want to be forced to conform to your beliefs in a legal setting when we don't share them. The First Amendment even prohibits this. What's the problem? Trying to legislate your beliefs onto others is like saying "I'm on a diet, so you can't have that chocolate cake." No. It's your diet, not mine.

"We have to bake LGBT wedding cakes and support and bless their LGBT weddings."
1) nobody's forcing any church to perform gay weddings. There are some Christian denominations that welcome gays, and I'm pretty sure most gay people who want to get married will be happy to go where they're actually welcomed.
2) Selling someone a cake does not mean you condone their marriage any more than selling guns means you condoned a murder and armed robbery by the person you sold a gun to. If you can't bring yourself to do your job fairly and equally, then keep YOUR religious limitations in mind, and find a different job. Don't expect the world to conform to YOU because you believe your religion forbids you something. Where in the bible does it say "thou shalt not bake cakes for gays or do them any kind of service", anyway? Is it by the passage that says you can't wear mixed fiber clothing, or the one that says you can't eat pork or rabbit or shrimp?
3) you might have to legally acknowledge a gay couple, but that doesn't mean you must approve of the relationship. It means you accept it - however grudgingly - like property taxes and car insurance. I don't approve of some of my straight friends' relationships but I understand that what they do is NOT MY BUSINESS and not my choice.
4) the whole "waaaah we have to bake cakes for gay people" thing sounds SO much like the places in the 1950s that didn't want to serve "colored" people, it's just crazy. I guess you missed a lot of the deeper meaning in the parable of the good Samaritan. Here's a hint: Samaritans and Jews HATED each other, it was a deep loathing that probably rivaled that between Palestinians and Israelis today. But Jesus advised treating those you hate with respect and care, and to go the extra mile for them. He even SAID to do that. That which you do for the least of them, you do for him. Love your enemy. Turn the other cheek. If he asks you to go with him one mile, go two. He wasn't asking for proof of income and need when he fed the 5,000 - everyone got some, didn't they? (wow, Jesus sounds a lot like some communist hippie...) But, American Evangelical Christians fail MISERABLY at this all the time. They're the ones asking if the little children REALLY DESERVE the cup of cold water, or of the poor really deserve to be given anything at all. No doubt they'd want a confession of faith from the Samaritan and to make sure he's not gay, before they take him back to the hotel and bandage him. It's cruel and sick, a pathologically psychopathic twist of Jesus' best teachings on kindness.

"Also we have to pay for abortions for women what act like harlots, and affirm their decition to abort cause after all they are women and them some. Never mind that half or more than half of the pre born babies that are snuffed are GIRLS!!! But the woman's loose libido is far more important...just look at Cosmo and you will see what I mean. They may not like seeing nude men but they love to talk dirty. Unlike the guys who do love to look at the T&A...or not if you go with Maxim."
Ahh this old red herring. Completely ignoring, once again, the actual statistics of who gets abortions.... that over 60% who get an abortion are in a committed relationship (40% are outright married), that 3/4 of them already have children (and 50% have more than one), that around two thirds of them WERE USING birth control when they got pregnant because no form of birth control including tubal ligation is 100% effective. Almost nobody aborts because they don't want a girl here, either. That's a very east-Asian thing, and it's culturally related to how girls are seen as lesser value than boys.
Hey, how's Colorado's birth control program doing for ya? It reduced the abortion rate in this state by a whopping 42%! I think someone estimated that it was a $6 savings in maternity and food stamp costs for every single dollar spent on the birth control program! Don't try to tell me that's not a victory! (at least if you're just anti-abortion. But if your goal is just to force people not to have sex so they can abide by your religious morality regardless of whether they're believers.....)
I love how you brought up "women's" loose libido, too. What about men? Don't men have some kind of responsibility for their own chastity, or are we really meant to be our brother's keeper? Even in the Bible, men have been blaming women since Adam. God asks what happened, and Adam tries to combo-blame both God and Eve by saying "the woman YOU gave me, told me to eat this" as if he didn't have a choice! Tale as old as time, blame the woman for everything and ignore your own choices... leave her with as many consequences as you can, never take any personal responsibility for your own bad decisions.
Also, God has never said he was against abortion. Sure, "don't murder", blah blah blah, but the problem is, the bible actually explicitly says that a human life begins at the first breath. Unborn fetuses are treated like PROPERTY in the Bible, not like people. The punishment in Leviticus for causing miscarriage by striking a pregnant woman, is not the death of the offender like it is for murder - it's a FEE. When a woman is put to test for infidelity in the Bible, the "bitter waters" cause a miscarriage - an ABORTION! God also killed plenty of babies in utero, what with all the pregnant women being ripped open... so I don't think he really cares that much about fetuses.
Oh yeah, and then there's the fact that *your religious book* is what's telling you it's immoral to have sex outside marriage/for pleasure. Guess what, other people aren't bound by your religious teachings! Get it through your head... stop pushing your religion on others and forcing them to conform to your religious morals! Two adults having sex is between those two people. They shouldn't have to have the approval of a church if they haven't chosen to partake in that religion.

"They expect us to shut up and they get to act like animals. This is why we need to enact common sense into our culture and government and yes a lot of that does come from God's Law."
Shutting up is necessary in order to LISTEN. So if you're not interested in listening I guess it makes sense that you're offended by the idea of being quiet for a bit.
Last I checked, we still have non-religious laws against murder, theft and such, and people who do stuff like that can still be arrested. No need to be so dramatic. If I were an animal I probably wouldn't be wasting my time typing this.
Have you ever heard of the Code of Hammurabi? One of the first written law books in the world. Predates the written Bible, including the Pentateuch, by quite a bit (it may have been written around the time of Abraham, or before; if Moses wrote the Pentateuch, as is claimed, then Genesis through Deuteronomy came significantly after). The Code has those same basic principles about murder and theft being crimes, so that makes it a pre-Judaic code of law, which means that basic ethics definitely didn't start with recorded Christianity OR Judaism. Interestingly, murder and theft and such seem to be frowned on in most cultures, including those that never had any contact with Judeo-Christian peoples. It's a fairly universal thing for humans - even the ones who are "too primitive" to wear clothing - to agree that killing each other is bad.
Your "common sense" honestly seems pretty crazy to me. You're claiming a lot of things that you just have no evidence for and including a lot of talking points that either don't make sense, aren't Biblical (but are somehow frequently brought up in Evangelical circles), or are just flat unproveable.

"Jane O'Halloran is not your friend...she is your enemy. Sorry for all the crap you had to go through Jane but that does not give you an excuse to push your progressiveism on the rest of us...at least not without a fight."
There's another common fearmonger-Faux News tactic, painting the person you're disagreeing with as the ENEMY. I'm nobody's enemy. I think you're ill advised, sadly misinformed and have been hoodwinked into thinking you're under attack because we're not allowing you to inject religion unconstitutionally into law... but you're not my enemy. (I can't really blame you... if your talking heads are constantly telling you you're persecuted, under attack and a martyr-to-be at any moment, I guess it's just a matter of time until you start believing it.) You still have the right to believe as you please, for yourself. I'm not trying to take your Bible away from you (please. Keep it. READ it and try comprehending it better, maybe. Look into that sermon on the mount stuff - there's some good stuff in there - and take note how BADLY that aligns with Evangelical politics... then consider that anyone who's trying to sell you that distinctively twisted Evangelical political angle may be incorrect or deliberately deceptive about some of the "facts" they're selling you. Ask yourself what they might have to gain, if they ARE deceiving you. Learn to think for yourself!)
No, actually, I don't care if you stay Christian or not. I don't care what your beliefs are as long as you keep them to yourself. I'm just trying to stop you from pushing me into a Christianized Burqa, pal - there's a reason a lot of us joke about Evangelicals being basically the Taliban with a Bible instead of a Koran. As long as you keep trying to turn this country into a white-straight-Christians-only-everyone-else-get-out nation, I will keep fighting for the FREEDOMS of people to hold their OWN beliefs and live by them, and showing actual real-life compassion to other people who are different from me. I know there are some avowed Christians who also fight this fight. Let people be free to do as they choose, and God - if he's there - be the judge of who the real sinner is. Let him establish his own kingdom on earth. Humans are far too power-hungry - ESPECIALLY church leaders, as we've seen time and again with sex scandals and ripping off people by telling them they can buy their way to heaven and the cruel fruits of the lies of Prosperity Gospel that are now spreading their nasty seeds through Evangelicalism, telling the poor and the sick they deserve to suffer and miss out on basics, in direct contradiction to Jesus' own words.

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Posted by Jane O'Halloran on 05/19/2017 at 2:32 PM

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