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Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

Honor comes in all shapes and sizes. This article is written with malice and ill intent. My prayers for all involved. Such young lives being ruined by adults. Like they do not have enough hills to climb and battles to fight. Such great examples to follow aren't you independent. Imagine these were your children, wouldn't you be more supportive. Shame on you tsk tsk.

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Posted by Lynne J on 07/10/2017 at 9:53 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

Bullshit! I totally agree with this article and thank the author for posting. I am so sick and tired of rules being bended and enforced "sometimes", depending on who breaks the rules. Actions SHOULD by all means have consequences and the consequence should be equal and not dependent on if you are or are not sleeping with a Commandant's (and previous AFA graduate's) daughter! Where is the honor and integrity in knocking up a woman you are NOT married to and planning on lying about it on a birth certificate? This "cadet" will soon be a future leader in the Air Force. This is a clear erosion of the Air Force core values. Integrity First, Service BEFORE Self & Excellence In All We Do. This cadet brings shame on honor of the AFA. And this is written by a 20 year Air Force Veteran!

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Posted by AirForceVet on 07/10/2017 at 7:43 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

No intent to deceive here. Clearly not lying about having a baby. Just making the law work for them. It really isn't that hard, by not putting his name on the birth certificate that baby is not his dependent. I don't know why this particular case is being so heavily scrutinized. Certainly not the first time this has ever happened to a cadet.

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Posted by PM on 07/10/2017 at 7:27 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

This article is completely one-sided and misinformed. First of all, having a dependent is disciplinary, and unrelated to honor. Secondly, the rules state that you cannot have dependents - therefore by relinquishing your parental rights you meet that standard. Third, how could USAFA possibly enforce this standard in the same manner for both males and females?! Of course females who choose to keep their baby have to take a leave of absence, they would be unable to meet their duties as cadets while carrying a baby to term! It would be a waste of the "taxpayer dollar" to allow females to skirt required duties while they're pregnant. Males physically are not constrained in the same way expecting mothers are. Both male and female have the option to stay or to leave. Yes, women who don't want to take leave will have to give up their baby. That is not an Academy problem, it is biological. By your logic, cadets shouldn't have relationships for four years so they can reap the "full benefit of the taxpayer dollar." This idea is absurd, REAL LIFE happens and Cadet Sutton will probably learn a lot throughout this experience. In all likelihood, this will allow him to help future airmen who find themselves in a similar circumstance. Lastly, "them" moving into the new apartment in August doesn't mean that Cadet Sutton is living in the apartment. Cadets are in fact allowed off base when authorized, and many choose to spend time with local friends, families, and sponsors. Him visiting Amanda on the weekend is no different than Cadet X staying at a hotel over the weekend with his/her family when they're in town. I promise, restricting cadet access to having meaningful relationships outside the Academy HURTS their ability to create meaningful relationships as officers.

Cadet Sutton's education costs roughly $400k of the taxpayer dollar. This is a drop in the ocean compared to the money the Air Force spends on a daily basis, so if you're concerned about the federal budget I would suggest you write your senator and propose an alternative to the use or lose policy which we operate in.

Most of all, I suggest you look in the mirror and imagine being Amanda or Cadet Sutton. Of all the things they should be dealing with right now, you blogging their personal lives should not be one of them. I pray for your empathy, and their strength, focus, and growing love during this time.

Sincerely, '16

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Posted by seriously? on 07/10/2017 at 7:18 PM

Re: “Sen. Cory Gardner is nowhere to be found during July 4 recess

The Republicans are making a mistake even touching the ACA. They should just let it collapse under its own financial mis-assumptions and use the "cruel and inhumane" treatment of former recipients as a 2018 campaign issue.

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Posted by UCanSeeClearlyNow on 07/10/2017 at 7:04 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

Am I the only one who is absolutely sick to death of "anonymous sources?" Anyone can say anything from behind a veil of secrecy. Not all who remain anonymous have the best of intentions, and neither do those who quote them.

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Posted by John Howell on 07/10/2017 at 6:26 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

I can't believe you would post something this personal on your sight. You know what? I bet this pregnancy came as a surprise. And I loved seeing that she and her fianc are respecting the life of their baby. I for one am excited for them, and Amanda if you're reading this know that there are so many cadets and former cadets who are rooting for you both. I know a few who have had children during their tenure, and it can be done. Will it be easy? No for both of you. But will it be worth it? Of course. (And the fact that you brought up the fact that Amanda's dad is a general is absurd, out of place, and attempting to be vindictive) Much love and respect for you both. Sorry that someone felt they had the responsibility to report this. They must not have had an all encapsulating life experience. Sending prayers!!
-USAFA '17

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Posted by HC on 07/10/2017 at 5:37 PM

Re: “Poll: Springs voters would approve new fee for drainage control

It's a really dented up can.

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Posted by R Wehner on 07/10/2017 at 5:28 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

Apple and oranges here, or dick and pussies if you would. A male doesn't carry to term a child therefore he is able to complete all tasks required to stay. Easy enough to understand, moron?

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Posted by Steve Martinez on 07/10/2017 at 5:01 PM

Re: “Poll: Springs voters would approve new fee for drainage control

RW: Ever notice that the city never has enough money to do it right the first but, always has enough money to do it over? Opps! The city doesn't do it over. It just kicks the can down the road for the next generation of whoever that happens to be.
Cheers

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Posted by Gary Casimir on 07/10/2017 at 4:57 PM

Re: “Can Air Force Academy cadets become parents while enrolled? Apparently so.

It is incredibly hypocritical to say it is okay to break the code you agreed to, when being accepted, over thousands of other applicants, and attending a school (that taxpayers pay for) as long as you lie about it and omit your name on the birth certificate until after your graduation. And if they feel so strongly that it is OK to do this, don't go around so publicly sharing the news of the baby. Are we being asked to see this as "boys will be boys"? The Academy was designed to showcase the finest of our generation. If this is our finest, we are in a sad state. I am not saying they are horrible young people because of this, not at all. I am simply saying, Cadet Sutton should not be allowed to graduate from an academy where he chose to dishonor the honor code. Actions have consequences. If they feel they are ready to be parents, it is time for them to act like adults and accept the responsibility. His father-in-law-to-be should be the first to admit he should be required to leave the school. Harvard denied admission to students already accepted for this fall due to them breaking the honor code they had agreed to. Surely our military academies should hold their standards at least as high. I wish them well, just not on my tax dollars or representing the Academy.

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Posted by Shaking My Head on 07/10/2017 at 4:47 PM

Re: “Military property yields lots of game for hunters

Most large military installations allow hunting. Been this way for a long time. Big deal.

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Posted by Dave H on 07/10/2017 at 3:07 PM

Re: “Poll: Springs voters would approve new fee for drainage control

Come on now Gary. Facts piss off the Twinkees.

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Posted by R Wehner on 07/10/2017 at 1:02 PM

Re: “Poll: Springs voters would approve new fee for drainage control

Joel: Its nice to know that at least two of us have read the Federal Highway Administration specifications for road warranties.
A two year warranty is the "minimum" with no performance requirements. Performance requirements begin at 5 years and graduates at 10, 15, & 20 years. Detroit requires a performance warranty of 20 years. The Europeans are going for 35 years.
I've suggested that if there are no road building companies that will give 5, 10, 15, or 20 year performance warranty, the city should go outside the state for a contractor or two who can give the city a better warranty. Right now, it's throwing good money after bad and mathematically the roads will never be completed.
If you want to see a maintenance nightmare look no further than the Centinnial extension which is being built in a slide area.
Here's another one: The Summit House $50M. One year warranty.

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Posted by Gary Casimir on 07/10/2017 at 12:13 PM

Re: “Sen. Cory Gardner is nowhere to be found during July 4 recess

Hey Senator, who are your top 3 contributors and what do they expect in return for owning you?

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Posted by billd on 07/09/2017 at 1:40 PM

Re: “Sen. Cory Gardner is nowhere to be found during July 4 recess

Concernedcitizen, we call his office every day, and because they have stopped answering the phones, we go in person about once a week. If he has a town hall scheduled on the Western slope, please tell us where and when, because his office won't. Many constituents in the Springs and Denver would certainly take a road trip.

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Posted by Candi Frank on 07/08/2017 at 11:15 PM

Re: “Suthers wants more from Utilities after voters say no to payments

The online Gazette has a point/counterpoint (will be published in the Sunday paper) titled "Should CSU increase its payment to the city?" Steve Durham says No and Steve Schuck says let's talk about it first. Because the citizens are the owners of CSU, PILT should never have been instituted and increasing PILT is going from bad to worse. Durham makes the point that when PILT revenue goes into the General Fund, the dollars are spent on whatever the politicians want to spend it on, which means dollars are then available to give to developers instead of funding stormwater infrastructure and other essential needs.

Developers are incapable of developing anything without using the citizens money. And politicians are incapable of being honest with the electorate about what the tax or fee or ill gotten gains will fund because the citizens, being unreasonable as well as dummies, may say No to a tax increase. Let the mayor and Council members know what you think about accepting an additional tax burden via an increase in your utility bills while the politicians go on their merry way transferring tax revenue from the citizens to the developers.

allcouncil@springsgov.com
jsuthers@springsgov.com

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Posted by curious on 07/08/2017 at 8:19 PM

Re: “Sen. Cory Gardner is nowhere to be found during July 4 recess

We call and visit his offices everyday and ask for a meeting. None of them seem to know his schedule. He is unable to respond to anyone. They keep the meetings under wraps or you have to pay to meet him . I have been told by his staff they will share our concerns but to date he has not responded in any form.

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Posted by AnswerUs on 07/08/2017 at 9:11 AM

Re: “Poll: Springs voters would approve new fee for drainage control

LocalLiver

"A Plan"

Long term planning has been in effect locally for decades. It is called 'Management by Crisis One Year at a Time'

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Posted by R Wehner on 07/08/2017 at 7:31 AM

Re: “Poll: Springs voters would approve new fee for drainage control

You know what we need from this Mayor and City Council? A plan. You know, one of those things that keeps you from careening from one daily crisis to another. Why don't we have one? Because its better for them if you don't know what they are planning to do, as you cannot object to something you don't know is in the works.

What happens when you don't have a plan?

Surprise! We need $50 million to keep the Olympic Headquarters in town
Surprise! We need a $2 billion Southern Delivery System
Surprise! We need to lease Memorial Hospital and pay PERA $190 million
Surprise! We need a City for Champions proposal (Cost unknown but likely $50-100 million for "infrastructure")
Surprise! We need a billion dollars for roads
Surprise! We need a billion dollars for stormwater improvements
Surprise! We need $50 million for Pikes Peak Summit House replacement

Beginning to see a pattern here? It would be funny if it wasn't costing us money and damaging the national reputation of this city.

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Posted by LivesLocally on 07/07/2017 at 7:54 PM

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