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Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

You know what I was thinking about today?

Mikey's followers are no different than those 14-year-old girls who tweet death threats at anyone who says anything even slightly critical of Justin Bieber. They call them "Beliebers."

Like, Akiva's whooooole long post up there? Is not really any different than some teenager in Dubuque, Iowa tweeting "Shut up b----, I hate you! I LUV U JUSTIN, BELIEBER 4 EVER" to a reporter who's taken a photo of Justin Bieber leaving a strip club. Mikey has "Beliebers" of his own.

The frightening thing is that Mikey's "Beliebers" have already (ostensibly) grown up. This isn't a phase they're going through, that they'll grow out of when they turn 16 and get their driver's license. That's kind of sad. :(

Anyway. This has been stimulating but I'm bored now. My work here is done. Happy holidays to all and to all a good night!

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 8:00 PM

Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

Oh man. I really wish this commenting system allowed photo comments because I have the PERFECT pic for you. Oh well.

Merry Christmas to you also, bro, and I appreciate the gift of you too. :)

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 12:48 PM

Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

I'm leaving the juvenile behavior to you, Andrew. You're REALLY good at it.

P.S. you should ask Mikey for some money for spending so much time writing that long post. Surely he can toss you a c-note or two, amirite?

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 12:32 PM

Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

Andrew, that was perfect. You couldn't have done a better job of writing a completely irrelevant, nasty, non-response to the points I've brought up. Your post was a great example of exactly the kind of bullying rhetoric that Weinstein's supporters use, over and over, to defend the indefensible. By all means, post some more. Keep digging. You just keep making yourself look like the type of slavering, irrational zealot you claim to hate.

"In the real world Debbie, Mikey is considered an SME (subject matter expert) by the Department of Defense and MRFF has been compensated in the past, *and most likely will be again,* for employing this expertise to the tune of $1,089 per day."

Sure. Whatever you say. I thought there was that whole thing where the Pentagon had explicitly been told not to hire Mikey again? And that it has been quite a number of years since Mikey even set foot in the Pentagon? But you have all the answers, bro, so I guess we're just supposed to take your word for it. The military is lining up outside Mikey's door to pay him a thousand dollars a day for a bunch of disjointed ranting. Seems legit.

FYI - just because the truth is uncomfortable for you? That doesn't make it a lie. :-)

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 12:21 PM

Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

"What business is it of yours what Mikey’s annual salary is? Because he leads a controversial cause, are you suggesting that he is supposed to live a life of poverty?"

He runs a 501(c)3 nonprofit, and so therefore is not subject to the same taxation a for-profit business is subject to. That takes money away from all of us. It is absolutely EVERYONE's business what Mikey Weinstein pays himself. If he wants to keep his salary secret and make it not our business, he should shut down the nonprofit and start a for-profit entity.

And many people of high ideals and strong morals have chosen to live a life of poverty to advance their cause and fight for what is right. It's not necessary for a person advocating change to be poor to be an advocate. But I don't think those advocates deserve to drive a Lotus, either.

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 10:39 AM

Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

"How is the number of Facebook fans connected to the validity of Mikey’s work?"
Because it's such a simple way for people to indicate their engagement and support of a cause. All it takes is one click. One simple click, and you've aligned yourself with a cause. If Mikey has so much support, and so much influence, why have only 3,000 people chose to move their mousing finger one inch and click a button?

I'm not jealous of Mikey. On any level. The more I read his writing and tracked his activities, the more I realized that he's a fundamentally very unhappy person, grappling with his own increasingly irrelevance and lack of influence. Donations to MRFF are dropping. I am sure he doesn't get much royalty revenue, if any, off his writing, as his books don't appear to sell well. I am sure it's very anxious and depressing to be Mikey, most of the time. And for that, I have empathy. But I still feel it is extremely disingenuous for someone to bill themselves as a populist freedom fighter, and pay himself a salary that puts him very firmly in the 1%, from donations people have given for his cause, and not for his personal enrichment. I can't reconcile that, personally.

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 10:36 AM

Re: “Updates on Mikey, Klingenschmitt

Ronald - My real name is Deborah, I'm registered on this site under my own name.

Addressing a few points from "Kasia," above:

"If Mikey “has no real voice or seat at the table” then why was he invited to appear before the House Armed Services Committee on religious accommodations?"

There's a BIG, HUGE, GIGANTIC difference between Congress inviting Mikey to Capitol Hill to ask him "So, Mikey, what do you think about this?" and inviting him so they can tell him "Mikey, you are a jerk." Read the transcript of Mikey's appearance in front of the committee. It was VERY MUCH the latter, not the former. They didn't invite him there because they think he has thoughtful, meaningful things to say about religion in the military.

"As far as effecting change, they are too numerous to post here. In 2012 Mikey was listed as one of the '100 Most Influential People in US Defense.'"

By whom? And what was his rank? 79? 89? 99? It's not exactly like being named Time's Most Influential Person of the Year, is it?

Mikey is ignored by mainstream press. Coverage in niche military and religious publications, and his own submissions to AlterNet and Huffington Post are not meaningful national "coverage" for a supposedly national organization. Widely-read, mainstream publications avoid talking about him. A simple Google search confirms this fact.

"Mikey is credited by Defense News as having 'driven real change in religious policy throughout the military.'"

What is the real change? Can you unpack or quantify this for me? Anyone can say anything about anybody, any time.

"Mikey and MRFF has been nominated 7 times in 6 years (including this year) for the Nobel Peace Prize."

Mikey keeps getting nominated by a friend of his who is on the MRFF board. There is no way Mikey is EVER going to win a Nobel prize. The nominations are the equivalent of a kid in high school getting his friends to nominate him for the yearbook's "best dressed" award. ONE person can nominate someone for a Nobel Prize and thousands of people get nominated every year. Has Mikey ever WON the Nobel Peace Prize? Or come close? No, and he never will.

"Your comment here is reminiscent of the hate mail we receive from arrogant, judgmental Christians."

Who's WE? Is Mikey paying you part of his gigantic salary? And P.S. - I'm not a Christian. I'm an ex-MRFF supporter and donor. And then I opened my eyes. What Mikey is doing is no different than what Greg Mortensen did with Three Cups of Tea, that was exposed by Jon Krakauer and 60 Minutes. There's just less money involved. But Mikey is using his 501(c)3 to dodge taxes and enrich himself, not to do real benefit work that benefits military servicepeople and veterans. I now donate to Wounded Warrior - an organization that takes in $150 MILLION a year, and can show records detailing exactly what they've done with that money and how it helps veterans. The head of that organization gets paid less than one percent of what the organization takes in as donations. They are much more worthy of my support than King Mikey.

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Posted by debbie6487 on 12/02/2014 at 9:18 AM

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