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Re: “Smoking: Whose choice is it?

Damned Indy site. I had this big post but lost it. Here's the jist:

The article isn't that bad. It just didn't explore the idea that public air should be kept clean. Like the little pens in airports. My child shouldn't have to wade through a haze of carcinogens to get through the airport. One has no right whatsoever to put smoke in a child's lungs.

Bars are private and should be able to let patrons do what they want. Its the overreaching govt that continues to decimate our liberties, but that's what WE have voted for. And as the article states, it's our responsibilty to direct OUR govt. Ethan stated this well in the article.

"Smokers should be equally represented to avoid smoker discrimination"
"but seldom do people advocate smoking"

These were the parts that riled me up. Tobacco has a huge lobby. The President smokes. How much representation do smokers need?

And who would ever advocate smoking?

Posted by Groundhog on 06/01/2009 at 11:34 AM

Re: “Smoking: Whose choice is it?

After reading that article I felt like I just read a junior high school position paper. Where did the Indy find this guy? Certainly there are better writers who smoke around here.

Anyway, I love the knee jerk reaction that smokers almost always jump to when confronted about infringing on other's rights: People eat junk food. They just miss the whole point: Injest whatever you want, but don't force others to. You want to draw comparisons between obesity and smoking? Wait until someone forces a cheeseburger down your throat. That argument is for a high school civics class, and anybody who uses it should attend. You can't get fat sitting next to someone eating fast food.

People voted to ban smoking in bars. You have a problem with that ordinance? Talk to the voters. The govt isn't persecuting anybody, just doing the will of the people.

Ethan, did you write this article in a hurry? I mean, there's got to be a reason it was so bad.

Posted by Groundhog on 05/30/2009 at 9:58 PM

Re: “Goodbye, Ruby yesteryear

Peanut butter burgers are delicious! Just make sure the hot meat patty is placed directly on the penut butter, so it can melt. Put some lettuce on to add some crisp and catch any dripping peanut butter. I thought it was crazy when I was told about it, but it was awesome! Maybe Stevie Ray is missing this.

Posted by Groundhog on 04/22/2009 at 1:08 PM

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