Mary Beth 
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Re: “Hitting where it hurts

Dear Mayor Bach, CSFD Fire Chief Rich Brown, and AMR,

Please, if you are planning the force of CSFD city ambulance transport, which might involve some layoffs of crews from AMR be merciful, be fair, to these hard working individuals at AMR let them know ahead of time. AMR communicate with your people... the stress they and their families are dealing with of wondering is so hard. CSFD how can you with ease look at these crews day by day in the eye when you will be taking their jobs. Mayor Bach you visited AMR you asked for the crews vote based on your belief in private passed out yard signs. What do you stand for? Rumor has it no one can even get you on the phone. Is this true? What are you and Rich Brown and maybe AMR doing to our city? Why would you potentially layoff employees during this dismal time?

A Friend Of The Community,


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Posted by Mary Beth on 01/22/2013 at 10:32 PM

Re: “Hitting where it hurts

I guess the missing piece to this since all seem so eerily quite Mayor Bach, CSFD Rich Brown, and AMR. There is nothing fourth coming from all three no coverage by news media no communication no PR..silence! Sometimes the truth hurts maybe AMR has made a deal with CSFD that would provide jobs for AMR street crews...alas this is a possibility..If this is so... then thank goodness there will be some there is nothing else to say

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Posted by Mary Beth on 01/19/2013 at 8:46 AM

Re: “Hitting where it hurts

Awareness and frustration! What is very frustrating is Mayor Bach and CSFD Fire Chief Rich Brown decided this for our community without ANY community awareness or input ..I think this is wrong a scary!!!! Too much power not balanced!!! It is our tax dollars!!! OUR COMMUNITY!!! If it is not broken why fix it??? AMR has provided great service to this community for over 20 years..the Paramedic's and EMT's live in our community are raising families here and the 200 some employees are part of our community!!!! Their wages and benefits do not come close to that of the CSFD but they LOVE what they do! Last summer CSFD voted with the ESA Board to extend AMR's contract then abruptly late fall changed their minds and decided to go another route with Mayor Bach!!! NO VOTE by the citizens , the ESA Board or city council just Mayor Bach and CSFD Rich Brown. When it comes down to it whether there is another private ambulance company or AMR that is so much better for the community then CSFD transport. With the horrific summer we had with the Waldo canyon fire and this summer promises to be another DRY and HOT summer why is CSFD not concentrating on more manpower to fight wild fires???? So many other agency's were called in to help CSFD understandably! While CSFD was fighting that fire AMR was handling all 911 medical calls and AMR folks came in to help evacuate folks from nursing homes etc. but we do not hear those stories about AMR. Why with our economy with the way it is would the Mayor do such a thing? What about private industry? "

"The city is struggling just pay new firefighters to staff all of their stations. It took a two year $2 million grant from the Obama administration to fully staff the new Fire Station 21 without pulling crews from other fire houses.

"I think there's a concern that things have kind of been done behind closed doors, the ESA really feels that this needs to be a transparent process," said El Paso County Commissioner Sallie Clark. "

Please be aware of what is going on in our backyard!!!

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Posted by Mary Beth on 01/19/2013 at 7:50 AM

Re: “Hitting where it hurts

Government should support businesses, who in turn provide money to the system, including taxes to the government.

Private business will always be able to do a job for lower cost, because competition keeps them lean. Bureaucratic agencies have nothing to keep them from becoming ever-larger.

Also, if the city does this, there is no reversing it. Even if it is an abysmal money losing black hole, you will never see the Fire Department get out of the business. Once the mechanism are in place they will put tentacles throughout the government, so that they cannot be removed. The city will just have to keep paying more and more money to prop up a losing Fire Department ambulance service that cannot and will not go away. That means ever higher ambulance bills from the Fire Department, and increases in taxes to help pay for the agency's losses.

The Fire Department will run the ambulance service, but the paramedics and EMT's who staff them will be non-sworn public servants, who will be paid significantly less than sworn firefighters, and ambulance people will always be treated as second class members.

Many jobs will be lost, and so will tax revenues.

Costs will go up, and quality and accountability will go down.

AMR provides a lot to the community which the Fire Department will not, including free education to all ESA agency EMT's and paramedics, including CSFD. Continuing education for certification renewal can cost $300-$500 every two years if done elsewhere, and it is free through AMR

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Posted by Mary Beth on 01/18/2013 at 7:35 PM

Re: “Hitting where it hurts

Mayor Bach ran on support of private business in our city ...even visited AMR to support him for Mayor...passed out yard signs many hard working dedicated people.. their jobs are threatened! So many families at AMR will be affected! AMR has provided great care and support to our community since 1992..why fix something if it is not broken??? There is no reason for this.. why put so many out of work at this will this help our community? Do we not already pay taxes for the fire departments services?? After the Waldo Canyon fire and this year another dry fire season...would it not be better to have CSFD using all their resources to fight fires???? Very sad...

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Posted by Mary Beth on 01/17/2013 at 8:44 PM

Re: “Hitting where it hurts

I wonder if the folks that worked for STF Ambulance in July 1992 that now are on CSFD think of what it felt like that day when they lost their jobs.

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Posted by Mary Beth on 01/17/2013 at 8:35 PM

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