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Re: “UPDATE: Schuck makes a 'power' move

Our low utility cost alone does not attract businesses to COS. If anything they merely help offset many of the high fees associated with City Planning, like the ridiculously high water tap fees. Since Bach took over, Planning has been better but there is still a ways to go. Point being that utilities is only a portion of what is taken into consideration and there are numerous other factors at play that deter businesses from locating here.

It's great our low utility costs can attract large utility users like data centers but shouldn't we be focusing on attracting businesses HQs instead? As I mentioned before, businesses are attracted to cities with a young, educated work force, which is attracted to cities with an active, vibrant urban core. While there are other areas of downtown to focus on as well, Drake is not necessarily conducive to developing our extremely lacking urban core.

The Mayor, and Schuck seems to agree, views Drake as an opportunity to explore our options before hundreds of millions of dollars are invested in our current power plant with the Neumann system, essentially locking us into our current downtown layout for the next 20-30 years. Why don't we use this window of opportunity to look at other possibilities?

I don't think that is an unreasonable thought. Do you?

Since Council, who should not be making these decisions in the first place, is unwilling to take a look at this I think it's great a member of the community has taken it upon himself to gather a group of very successful businessmen to discuss the matter and at least put pressure on the decision makers so they re-think their poor decision.

I do agree, however, the conversation should be more open to the public. Why not gather a panel of experts, have them analyze the situation and present their findings to a public forum, similar to the Urban Land Institute's study of downtown this summer. Someone would need to pay them of course but if we're able to get so many successful people together in one room we could get them to all contribute to such a study. I suppose this issue is time sensitive though, so maybe timing would be off.

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Posted by Mernster on 09/05/2012 at 5:49 PM

Re: “UPDATE: Schuck makes a 'power' move

@COS native: No new businesses are being enticed by our low utility costs. In fact, COS is an afterthought for businesses looking to relocate somewhere, and our utilities don't help change that. What does entice new businesses is an active, vibrant urban core and a young, educated work force (which just happens to be attracted to cities with an active, vibrant urban core).

As it stands COS is broke. The city owns an asset that is presumably worth some money, but we don't know that because we've never had someone evaluate it. Hell, we don't even know if it's being run efficiently. All Schuck has proposed is that we find a way to see how much our asset is worth and how, if we ever choose to sell a portion of the Utilities to a private company, the installation of pollution control equipment affects the value. Since City Council (it is ABSURD that they double as the board for CSU) has failed to see the importance of such an evaluation I think it's great that a member of the community has organized a meeting to continue the conversation.

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Posted by Mernster on 09/05/2012 at 11:21 AM

Re: “Garden sate

Tried NJs twice now, once last week and again today, this time to redeem a coupon for a few free slices due to the mishap from last week's visit. Today was much better. The slice of sausage pizza tasted like they had actually recently taken it out of the oven unlike the first visit's luke warm, kinda stale slice.

Here's my love/hate list:


The color scheme, pretty much an eyesore. Red and green stripes? Terrible.

Why New Jersey pizza instead of New York? Who thinks of NJ style pizza over NY style?

Service subpar. I'm all for grungy looking kids running a pizza place, but there needs to be a little more organization, communication and promptness.

Too many items on the menu. Just stick to the pizza and apparently the strombolis!


The concept. Their is a definite need for a pizza-by-the-slice spot downtown.


There's really no need to go beyond pizza and few other items like salad and maybe bread sticks and, again, apparently strombolis. But if I'm in the mood for a pasta this is not the place. They need to cater to the quick-stop business lunch and CC crowd during the day and the inebriated kids walking by needing something cheap to eat at night. The quality is good enough to warrant the low price. If I want to have a nice sit down pizza experience I'll go across the street to IlVicino's. Don't try to compete with them, differentiate by attracting the pizza-by-the-slice crowd.

Posted by Mernster on 08/02/2012 at 7:46 PM

Re: “Area leaders dive into Portland, looking for ideas and inspiration

I like that we're exposing ourselves to different successful cities to see what we can take away from the experience and implement here locally. The problem is I'm starting to think a large part of COS does not want the city to improve. OKC for example invested large amounts into its core (downtown) and capital improvements in which the money came from a penny sales tax. COS would NEVER approve of something like that and it's sad. Soon OKC will have $750 million (this resulting from its third installment of such a tax) to spend on further improving its downtown. Wonder why OKC has one of the hottest economies right now?

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Posted by Mernster on 05/09/2012 at 8:13 PM

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