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Re: “Tribal conflict

Interjection: The word "Cop" is considered disparaging by many and I am surprised the press gets away with using this derogatory slang so readily. The proper respectful title is police officer or law enforcement officer.

Posted by nabashalam on 03/02/2010 at 2:48 PM

Re: “Tribal conflict

I don't think the authorities violated their rights... They just didn't enforce the laws on all the others!
"Red Rocks Park is open to the public from 5 a.m. to 11 p.m. every day of the year. However, the Amphitheater may be closed to the public at any time on a day when a concert is scheduled." and they provided a "free speech zone" I don't think they have a leg to stand on... Now my question is why aren't they rejoicing because of their persecutions instead of hiring a ACLU lawyer to defend them? Al Sharpton must have been busy...
"Blessed are those who are persecuted because of righteousness,
for theirs is the kingdom of heaven. Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely say all kinds of evil against you because of me. Rejoice and be glad, because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they persecuted the prophets who were before you."
I thought the Holy Spirit was to give them all the words they need in court.
"But when they arrest you, do not worry about what to say or how to say it. At that time you will be given what to say, for it will not be you speaking, but the Spirit of your Father speaking through you."
And why didn't they just leave when asked?
"When you are persecuted in one place, flee to another. I tell you the truth, you will not finish going through the cities of Israel before the Son of Man comes."
The Twelve Tribes have changed from a unconditional loving and caring house church/commune to a proud and haughty worldly institution. Are they not to honor the worldly authorities in worldly matters?
"Remind the people to be subject to rulers and authorities, to be obedient, to be ready to do whatever is good, to slander no one, to be peaceable and considerate, and to show true humility toward all me"
Did the first century church take the Romans to court?
And one piece of information for Ms. Stanley who wrote the piece. The Tribes do not consider themselves "Christians" . They believe all Christians worship a demon known as Jesus Christ and that their Messiah, Yahshua Ha'Masiach, is the only true savior and if you are not a part of the Twelve Tribes and worship this "Jesus" person that you are all going to the Lake of Fire for eternity...

Posted by nabashalam on 03/02/2010 at 7:12 AM

Re: “Maté with a message

Yeah...just don't drink the kool-aide!!!

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Posted by nabashalam on 03/11/2008 at 12:14 PM

Re: “Maté with a message

Thanks Jim, I'd also like to say Hi to Dayag and Rachel! Congratulations! You make a great couple and you both deserve each other! I loved you both....still do... Please say Hi to Nadiv and his wonderful family for me!Yohannan and his family too!

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Posted by nabashalam on 03/09/2008 at 4:16 PM

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I forgot! The newest and best site yet!!!

Posted by nabashalam on 03/08/2008 at 12:30 PM

Re: “Maté with a message

Yes it all looks nice from outside the frame but when your in the picture, it's a different story. Even their website looks good but " Caveat emptor!!!" You need to print a story coming from those who have left and seen the wake of lives, faiths and families destroyed by this high control "Christian" fundamentalist group. My name is David Pike and I was a member of the Twelve Tribes for 7 years. I also worked at the Mate' Factor there in Manitou Springs. I left the TT in 2003 from Colo Springs. I am writing this to anyone who might consider joining this group... I want to ask you first off to not mention that you are in contact with me. They would tell you I am not of God but of the "Evil One". They would not allow you to communicate with me or anyone that doesnt agree with them. Lets keep this confidential until you have a chance to read and research this group, use some critical thinking (which they would call rebelious and questioning Gods direction and "portion" for you) and make a decision with your own mind and heart, before they control your every move and thought and you will be in the mindset that they are the only ones with the truth and to question them would be questioning GOD. If you go in, and get baptised, you will no longer be allowed access to ANY information that they dont control. No internet, TV, newspapers or even all academics. They will teach you that everything, and I mean evrything that you ever learned and know was taught to you through the tutelge of the "Evil One" and that they are the ONLY ONES that are saved. Everyone else are not. They wont tell you this right off the bat. They will teach you that no one since the first church, the first century, ever had the Holy Spirit. NO ONE until there leader, Yoneq, received it in the early 70s. The Jesus that you know and probably worship and follow is a demon. Their Yahshua is the true Messiah and ALL of Christianity is doomed to the "Lake of Fire" unless they "come out of her" and join the TT. They will tell you that if you were baptised before you met tham, it didnt count. You can only be saved by their baptism. If you know the bible well, you will see that they are putting themselves back under the "Law" and the book of Galatians could have been written by Paul directly to THEM!!! The entire book fits them perfectly. They could BE that church in Galatia! Yes, it looks like a wonderful lifestyle but all is not as it seems.... Please look at these sites and read as much as you can. Then I would ask you to contact me and tell me your thoughts. I really want to help you make a educated and informed decision on your own, but you need to know both sides before you can do that. I just want to save you and your family from alot of pain that many of us ex-members suffered through. Many lives and families have been torn apart and destroyed by this group and many others like them. Oh yes! There are others groups that live like the TT and claim "exclusivity with God". Seriously, do some research, ask me ANY questions, and then make up your OWN mind. I hope this doesnt overwhelm you. Ive been doing alot of research myself. I even left and came back several times in the Tribes because I hpoed in my heart that they were "The Way"! But I am positive now that they are not. Speaking of "The Way" theres a group by that name that claims the same thing! I had a friend of the family that joined this group and after finally getting the courage to leave this group, committed suicide. Actually there are many that claim exclusivity with "God". Please feel free to email me and definitely before you go asking more questions of the TT members. They'll tell you to "Stop your research now! Its of the Evil One!!!". Truly sincere.... David Pike PS God gave you a mind so that you would use it and not rely on others to do your thinking for you....

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Posted by nabashalam on 03/08/2008 at 12:22 PM

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